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Yes Kenny Dalglish and Liverpool are done. MOD POST #425 *ALL READ*

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  • #992
    Will I Amnt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    ush wrote: »
    Ferguson dragged it out for ages with the BBC and recalled players on loan. Thats on a whole different level.

    Dalglish hasn't handled the TV interviews smoothly. But since when did Glaswegian men of his and Ferguson's vintage give ground to the kind of idiot that Sky employs.

    Besides, when did Sky interviews become part of the game? Thats just the British Isles media bubble.
    Yea,it was petty from Ferguson,just as it is with Dalglish.
    Using 1 incident against an ongoing weekly thing doesn't make sense so the other poster was right in what he was saying.

    Unfortunately the media and their money dictate a lot of what goes on,everyone has to deal with it.


  • #993
    StephenHendry
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    cambo2008 wrote: »
    Yea,it was petty from Ferguson,just as it is with Dalglish.
    Using 1 incident against an ongoing weekly thing doesn't make sense so the other poster was right in what he was saying.

    Unfortunately the media and their money dictate a lot of what goes on,everyone has to deal with it.

    some of the questions the sky interviewers are so banal at times that i can see why the likes of fergie and kenny get the ire with them. neil warnock despite managing my team leeds can be really bad with interviewers as well. i think though with kenny it is deliberate and that it doesnt reflect who he really is away from the cameras. he sees interviewers as a necessary evil


  • #994
    ush
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Interviews are actually important. I would like to hear my manager conduct an interview in a sensible way and actually comment on the match.

    All Dalglish does is snarl and try to be awkward. He should conduct himself a bit better in these interviews.

    All he does is snarl? Sometimes he does. Sometimes he doesn't. They all do.

    All premiership managers can weasel their way out of interviews if they want. The fines for missing contractual obligations can be paid out of the petty cash tin. All managers can blame the referee if they want. Dalglish isn't really doing anything new here.

    Also most people who watch the premiership live outside the British Isles and the domestic Sky media bubble. Its just part of the soap opera around the game. Not really that relevant.

    In fact, I'd be worried if I saw him being anything other than tight-lipped and cagey around idiots from Sky.


  • #995
    doc_17
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,379 ✭✭✭doc_17


    the way Kenny talks to idiots from Sky does not nother me one bit. The way they address other managers compared to him is hilarious to watch. Fair play to him. When he wants to talk to the fans he uses LFCTV.


  • #996
    Will I Amnt
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    StephenHendry wrote: »
    some of the questions the sky interviewers are so banal at times that i can see why the likes of fergie and kenny get the ire with them.
    Definitely,I would agree there but every interview??win or lose??
    It doesn't reflect well despite what a lot of fans will tell you.

    Everybody has their own shìt to put up with in every walk of life,stuff we'd rather not be doing.


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  • #997
    Renn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,255 ✭✭✭Renn


    doc_17 wrote: »
    the way Kenny talks to idiots from Sky does not nother me one bit. The way they address other managers compared to him is hilarious to watch.

    Well they have to bring it down to his level tbh - it's got to the stage where they need to ask him if he's happy that a peno has been saved by one of his own players :(

    Has anyone bothered to ask him about his job the way they did with AVB and others?


  • #998
    LuckyLloyd
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Interviews are actually important. I would like to hear my manager conduct an interview in a sensible way and actually comment on the match.

    All Dalglish does is snarl and try to be awkward. He should conduct himself a bit better in these interviews.

    How so?


  • #999
    KeithAFC
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    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    How so?
    You always want to hear what your manager has to say. A chance to perhaps explain tactics, team selections and basic questions. Dalglish though tries to make the interviews the most cringe worthy interviews of all time, every time. That is the problem people have with him.


  • #1000
    LuckyLloyd
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    You always want to hear what your manager has to say. A chance to perhaps explain tactics, team selections and basic questions. Dalglish though tries to make the interviews the most cringe worthy interviews of all time, every time. That is the problem people have with him.

    I see a lot of basic questions in post match interviews:

    "So, are you happy to take 3 points from this fixture?"
    "The Man of the Match was good wasn't he?"

    etc.

    I don't see much in the way of illuminating questions or explanations of tactics and team selection.


  • #1001
    KeithAFC
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    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    I see a lot of basic questions in post match interviews:

    "So, are you happy to take 3 points from this fixture?"
    "The Man of the Match was good wasn't he?"

    etc.

    I don't see much in the way of illuminating questions or explanations of tactics and team selection.
    Well how about Dalglish answer in a proper way and actually answer the questions properly. Like if the reporter says Andy Carroll played well, go into detail on why you think he played well and put that view across.

    Dalglish though seems desperate to say as little as possible and get away as quick as possible. It is pretty pathetic to be honest. But then again, he probably knows he won't be at Liverpool next season and has decided to stop caring.

    Either way, he needs to step it up in his interviews. I think a lot of people (including Liverpool fans) find them pretty pathetic.


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  • #1002
    Morzadec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,952 ✭✭✭Morzadec


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Hopefully tonight's result goes some way to securing Kenneth's long term future at the club.

    Why do you always call him Kenneth?? Everyone refers to him as Kenny, 'Kenneth' sounds weird. Would be like call Fergie 'Alexander'.

    Whenever I read it, it always remind of that scene from Peep Show, very disconcerting!



  • #1003
    MonkeyTennis
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Well how about Dalglish answer in a proper way and actually answer the questions properly. Like if the reporter says Andy Carroll played well, go into detail on why you think he played well and put that view across.

    Dalglish though seems desperate to say as little as possible and get away as quick as possible. It is pretty pathetic to be honest. But then again, he probably knows he won't be at Liverpool next season and has decided to stop caring.

    Either way, he needs to step it up in his interviews. I think a lot of people (including Liverpool fans) find them pretty pathetic.


    Well turn it off?

    Ferguson and Wenger have been consistently cringeworthy to me for years


  • #1004
    LuckyLloyd
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Well how about Dalglish answer in a proper way and actually answer the questions properly. Like if the reporter says Andy Carroll played well, go into detail on why you think he played well and put that view across.

    Going back to my original question, I fail to see how that might be illuminating or important. Dude puts in a Man of the Match performance, it should be pretty plain to see why. A manager explaining that is useless fluff - softball stuff.
    KeithAFC wrote: »
    I think a lot of people (including Liverpool fans) find them pretty pathetic.

    So?


  • #1005
    KeithAFC
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    it should be pretty plain to see why.
    Some people might not notice it though. Perhaps the manager might want to pin point another player in the team who he thought was fantastic. Just basic answers like that are what some people do want to see.


  • #1006
    LuckyLloyd
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Some people might not notice it though. Perhaps the manager might want to pin point another player in the team who he thought was fantastic. Just basic answers like that are what some people do want to see.

    None of that is "important" though, is it?


  • #1007
    KeithAFC
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    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    None of that is "important" though, is it?
    It is to some people. Some people do actually want to hear the views of the manager and for them to conduct themselves with dignity.


  • #1008
    amacachi
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    And if they ask about tactics after a loss they "digging".


  • #1009
    Sappy404
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    He's been under immense pressure recently and has had some stinkers of questions at post-match interviews and press conferences. I think most managers would react like that when under similar circumstances.

    I'd prefer to see him keep his cool and just answer the questions as quickly and simply as he can if he doesn't like them, but if he tries to end the thing instead then fair enough. It doesn't make for comfortable viewing, but it's up to him. It's not as bad as calling a reporter a c**t like Kinnear, a blanket refusal to speak to a news agency for years like Ferguson, or threatening to quit if the FA fine him like Holloway, for example.


  • #1010
    Renn
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    Oh it's worse.

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  • #1011
    LuckyLloyd
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    It is to some people. Some people do actually want to hear the views of the manager and for them to conduct themselves with dignity.

    Maybe, but it doesn't affect the team's ability to win football matches.

    Ferguson, Mourinho and Wenger have been obtuse or short with the media at various points in their careers and it hasn't impinged upon their ability to bring home the cheddar at season's end.

    Dalglish has made mistakes this season in terms of signings, tactics and chosen personnel and they have contributed to the unacceptable league position. However his handling of the media is irrelevant to what is being produced on the pitch, irrespective of how much opposition fans or the media would like it to be.


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  • #1012
    KeithAFC
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    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    Maybe, but it doesn't affect the team's ability to win football matches.

    Ferguson, Mourinho and Wenger have been obtuse or short with the media at various points in their careers and it hasn't impinged upon their ability to bring home the cheddar at season's end.

    Dalglish has made mistakes this season in terms of signings, tactics and chosen personnel and they have contributed to the unacceptable league position. However his handling of the media is irrelevant to what is being produced on the pitch, irrespective of how much opposition fans or the media would like it to be.
    It probably does actually. He looks miserable, fed up, no spring in his step etc. If that is his body language, it will only be seen by the players and it isn't good.


  • #1013
    LuckyLloyd
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    KeithAFC wrote: »
    It probably does actually. He looks miserable, fed up, no spring in his step etc. If that is his body language, it will only be seen by the players and it isn't good.

    Did you see him pitchside last night? I wouldn't have used any of those adjectives to describe his demeanour.


  • #1014
    mike65
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    Morzadec wrote: »
    Why do you always call him Kenneth?? Everyone refers to him as Kenny, 'Kenneth' sounds weird. Would be like call Fergie 'Alexander'.

    Whenever I read it, it always remind of that scene from Peep Show, very disconcerting!


    I believe its a mocking condescension, something Xavi6 is prone to using, with varying degrees of success*














    * read that like David Mitchell would say it for best effect.


  • #1015
    spiralism
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    ush wrote: »
    Ferguson might have a go once a year? How many years did he refuse to speak to the BBC. That whole episode showed spitful and petty he is. What Dalglish is doing in his interviews doesn't come near the behavior of Ferguson.

    it's one thing refusing to speak to the bbc for what he perceived as a grevious insult against his family, which he's notably protective of (for example, he rarely brings them up, if ever) and refusing to talk to the bbc over it but another thing entirely to turn innocent questions into slights and making out as if there's an agenda against the club when it's been his barbed divisive remarks on a number of issues (treatment by refs, suarezgate etc) and attitude to the media that has made them put himself and the club down in the first place. i mean, that reporter said **** all last night that could be construed as offensive, let's be fair and Dalglish nearly lynched him.

    It's not new behaviour though, he's always been like this with the media, at Celtic in 2001, for example, he organised a press conference in Bairds pub near Parkhead to make a mockery of the media and let the diehards have a right go at them. He needs to have a bit more respect to them, even if they are hacks and talk ****e, they're only trying to do a job. Wenger, Fergie and most managers for that matter will snap every now and then but when treated with respect they'll be civil and give it back. Dalglish goes in, talks down his nose to them and alights like a stack of fireworks the minute anything is said that could even be slightly construed as controversial.

    Siege mentality ****e again, for a sixty one year old man he could do with growing up, this is the sort of bollox that 15 year olds come out with, there's not a conspiracy to undermine a liverpool side he spent into the hundreds of millions on and alighted any controversy surrounding it with his own actions and words. They're 8th for reasons a lot closer to home than an imagined agenda against the club and he knows it - classic deflectionary tactics. Being a bully to the likes of the media and the referees isn't going to change the fact it's his own fault that they can scarcely buy a win this year.


  • #1016
    SM01
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    spiralism wrote: »
    it's one thing refusing to speak to the bbc for what he perceived as a grevious insult against his family, which he's notably protective of (for example, he rarely brings them up, if ever) and refusing to talk to the bbc over it but another thing entirely to turn innocent questions into slights and making out as if there's an agenda against the club when it's been his barbed divisive remarks on a number of issues (treatment by refs, suarezgate etc) and attitude to the media that has made them put the club down in the first place. i mean, that reporter said **** all last night that could be construed as offensive, let's be fair and Dalglish nearly lynched him.

    Way to go putting a cock-arsed spin on things to suit your argument! There's twisting the truth slightly and then talking a load of bollocks. This post is the latter.


  • #1017
    Gringo180
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    Just seen that clip there, thats quite possibly the worst interview I've seen in Prem League history. What is wrong with this man why is he so defensive?


  • #1018
    missingtime
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    Just watched the interview and I really don't see what everyone was getting in a fuss over. Maybe his comment "I don't see why I have to explain that" in reference to who he thought was gonna score the 5th goal, but everything else seemed fine.

    Storm meet tea-cup.


  • #1019
    citytillidie
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    missingtime wrote: »
    Just watched the interview and I really don't see what everyone was getting in a fuss over. Maybe his comment "I don't see why I have to explain that" in reference to who he thought was gonna score the 5th goal, but everything else seemed fine.

    Storm meet tea-cup.

    As i said in the main Liverpool thread, Liverpool won last night so the haters are now trying to find something else to hit Dalglish with.

    There was nothing wrong with that interview in my eyes.

    He said at the start that he was not going to talk about the ref yet the interviewer still went on to ask questions about the ref

    ******



  • #1020
    monkey9
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    If the Liverpool obsessed fans of other clubs want so much to hear what Kenny has to say about the officals, send him a tweet.


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  • #1021
    Adolf Hipster
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    monkey9 wrote: »
    If the Liverpool obsessed fans of other clubs want so much to hear what Kenny has to say about the officals, send him a tweet.
    Deluded is often used but by god it suits.


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