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Yes Kenny Dalglish and Liverpool are done. MOD POST #425 *ALL READ*

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  • #752
    _blank_
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    stumpypeeps wrote: »
    I don't care what you think of it. You're opinion means absolutely nothing to me. No offence.

    Why would I be offended by some no-mark posting under an anonymous pseudonym? :confused:

    What a bizarre post.


  • #753
    Nalz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,060 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    Ha thanks for your permission! :D
    Well I worded it like that to limit the potential amount of posts slating you for saying you don't have a problem with it! :)


  • #754
    stumpypeeps
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    Des wrote: »
    Why would I be offended by some no-mark posting under an anonymous pseudonym? :confused:

    What a bizarre post.

    What are you on about Des?


  • #755
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    stumpypeeps wrote: »
    What are you on about Des?

    To take a guess at it.
    stumpypeeps wrote: »
    I don't care what you think of it. You're opinion means absolutely nothing to me. No offence.
    Des wrote: »
    Why would I be offended by some no-mark posting under an anonymous pseudonym? :confused:

    What a bizarre post.


  • #756
    homerjay2005
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    DB21 wrote: »
    Nah. He's doing a grand job. Never thought someone would beat how well Woy did, but wow, Dalglish has managed it in spades.

    Roy was a far better manager for Liverpool than Dalglish has been. if he got the same funds and was still there, i think liverpool would be in contenton for a CL spot this year.

    dalglish is a man who has been extremely lucky in his managerial career and was found out at newcastle, celtic and now at liverpool. he inherited a great liverpool side and all the money in the world almost, at blackburn.


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  • #757
    stumpypeeps
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    homerjay2005 wrote: »
    Roy was a far better manager for Liverpool than Dalglish has been. if he got the same funds and was still there, i think liverpool would be in contenton for a CL spot this year.

    dalglish is a man who has been extremely lucky in his managerial career and was found out at newcastle, celtic and now at liverpool. he inherited a great liverpool side and all the money in the world almost, at blackburn.

    How do you figure that?


  • #758
    homerjay2005
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    stumpypeeps wrote: »
    How do you figure that?

    liverpools worst run of results in 58 years is proof enough for me. 100+million spent is another, poor football based on hoof ball.

    i could go on. when roy was at the club, it was in turmoil after rafa, G & H, the fans werent behind him, several players wanted out. considering he faced all this crap, i think its safe to say roy was doing better than Dalglish is doing right now.


  • #759
    stumpypeeps
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    homerjay2005 wrote: »
    liverpools worst run of results in 58 years is proof enough for me. 100+million spent is another, poor football based on hoof ball.

    i could go on. when roy was at the club, it was in turmoil after rafa, G & H, the fans werent behind him, several players wanted out. considering he faced all this crap, i think its safe to say roy was doing better than Dalglish is doing right now.

    I don't think you can level that at Dalglish's Liverpool. Certainly if you've watched any games this season.

    Why is it only opposition fans that applaud Hodgson? Isn't that reason enough in itself. The more unpopular the Liverpool manager is, the better he is for the club.


  • #760
    kryogen
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    stumpypeeps wrote: »
    I don't think you can level that at Dalglish's Liverpool. Certainly if you've watched any games this season.

    Why is it only opposition fans that applaud Hodgson? Isn't that reason enough in itself. The more unpopular the Liverpool manager is, the better he is for the club.

    I think its down to that he was never given a chance, any chance, by the Liverpool fans so you wont find too many of them supporting him now hes gone. Hodgson was in a no win situation from day 1. Somebody has to fight his corner


  • #761
    stumpypeeps
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    kryogen wrote: »
    I think its down to that he was never given a chance, any chance, by the Liverpool fans so you wont find too many of them supporting him now hes gone. Hodgson was in a no win situation from day 1. Somebody has to fight his corner

    I was more than happy to see him get the job at the time, I thought he could do for Liverpool what he did for Inter, during a time of turmoil.

    The problems slowly emerged. In terms of handling the media he was appalling. Especially when he suggested that should Utd approach Liverpool for Torres, it might be hard to resist for club and player. This culminated in blaming the fans for results.

    On the football side, the team was so shackled by positioning and his 2 banks of four approach that the football became unwatchable.

    As in most cases, it wasn't one particular thing but the amalgamation of various factors that made his position untenable.


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  • #762
    monkey9
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    cambo2008 wrote: »
    What I got from that was he was pointing out the hypocrisy of someone getting worked up over United fans slagging off Liverpool when that same person among plenty of others was doing the very same when United were embarassed.

    I mentioned that very same thread in response to a similar assumption from another Liverpool poster but I was just too lazy to go searching for it.

    Hold on. Hypocrisy?? I'm not getting worked up about Utd fans slagging off Liverpool. I never said that.

    I'm talking about the obsession, on here and in real life, that people have with Liverpool. And also, the debates on here about things that haven't been said. Pages of it at times. Rival fans going about Liverpool thinking 'this is our year'! Who says that? I've never said, not in a serious manner.

    Or the general assumption that all Liverpool fans are delighted with the job Kenny is doing and ge can do no wrong etc etc. It's just bizarre some of the stuff that's talked about that has no foundation!


  • #763
    mike65
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    This thread is going well then...just spotted this stat, if only we had a striker

    * Liverpool have had 30 more shots than Manchester United but have scored 40 fewer goals


  • #764
    Paul Tergat
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    mike65 wrote: »
    This thread is going well then...just spotted this stat, if only we had a striker

    * Liverpool have had 30 more shots than Manchester United but have scored 40 fewer goals

    Thats a stupid stat and means nothing


  • #765
    Xavi6
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    mike65 wrote: »
    This thread is going well then...just spotted this stat, if only we had a striker

    * Liverpool have had 30 more shots than Manchester United but have scored 40 fewer goals

    You do but they just happen to be shit...and whose fault is that?


  • #766
    stumpypeeps
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭stumpypeeps


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    You do but they just happen to be shit...and whose fault is that?

    Andy Carrolls.


  • #767
    monkey9
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    Xavi6 wrote: »
    You do but they just happen to be shit...and whose fault is that?

    Jaysus, straight to the point there Xavi!!!!


  • #768
    kryogen
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    Aye, I saw the stat that Suarez has taken 107 shots in the league and has 7 goals, or 6 not sure, imagine if ye had a forward capable of converting more then 1 in 15 :)


  • #769
    Xavi6
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    stumpypeeps wrote: »
    Andy Carrolls.

    bygraves_duhduhh.jpg


  • #770
    G.K.
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    Guys, cut out the revisionist history calling Hodgson a good manager for Liverpool, it's patently obvious he wasn't. I'm not saying Dalglish has done any better this season, but Hodgson clearly wasn't going anywhere.


  • #771
    monkey9
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    Xavi6 wrote: »
    bygraves_duhduhh.jpg

    Everybody who saw this post made the noise, right??


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  • #772
    stumpypeeps
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    Xavi6 wrote: »
    bygraves_duhduhh.jpg

    He's not responsible for his own performances?


  • #773
    kryogen
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    stumpypeeps wrote: »
    Andy Carrolls.

    So Kennys fault then, for spending 57ish million on a strike force that has achieved 10 goals between them!

    Funnily, Bellamy who cost nothing has scored 6


  • #774
    Blatter
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    In terms of whether Kenny will be at Liverpool next season, I think the Everton game is massive.

    If he loses that, it could be a step too far. The writing really would be on the wall then, unless the league form improved dramatically between now and the end of the season.


  • #775
    monkey9
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    kryogen wrote: »
    So Kennys fault then, for spending 57ish million on a strike force that has achieved 10 goals between them!

    Funnily, Bellamy who cost nothing has scored 6

    By far and away Kenny's best signing of the summer!


  • #776
    kryogen
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    Agree ^^


  • #777
    mike65
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    Xavi6 wrote: »
    You do but they just happen to be shit...and whose fault is that?

    Kenny Dalglish's in the main.


  • #778
    smokedeels
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    Blatter wrote: »
    In terms of whether Kenny will be at Liverpool next season, I think the Everton game is massive.

    If he loses that, it could be a step too far. The writing really would be on the wall then, unless the league form improved dramatically between now and the end of the season.

    I agree.

    I think his future will be decided by that game.


  • #779
    Al Capwned
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    Paul Tergat wrote: »
    Thats a stupid stat and means nothing

    Of course it means something. It's a reflection of shots per goal, which in turn can be interpreted as a reflection if the quality of a teams finishers.
    Now statistics can be twisted to mean practically anything, but to dismiss that particular stat as meaning nothing us wrong IMO.
    What it does say I think is that the quality of Liverpool's strike force is not up to scratch. Mind you, I don't think we need statistics to see that.


  • #780
    RasTa
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    alproctor wrote: »
    Of course it means something. It's a reflection of shots per goal, which in turn can be interpreted as a reflection if the quality of a teams finishers.
    Now statistics can be twisted to mean practically anything, but to dismiss that particular stat as meaning nothing us wrong IMO.
    What it does say I think is that the quality of Liverpool's strike force is not up to scratch. Mind you, I don't think we need statistics to see that.

    Is it shots on target?


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  • #781
    monkey9
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    Blatter wrote: »
    In terms of whether Kenny will be at Liverpool next season, I think the Everton game is massive.

    If he loses that, it could be a step too far. The writing really would be on the wall then, unless the league form improved dramatically between now and the end of the season.

    Yeah, i think Everton could be huge like that alright. If we beat them, he'll definitely start the season as manager, whether we win the final or not.

    If we lose then it could be the catalyst. But i think he'll be there next season.


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