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We haven't had a good Public Sector bashing thread in ages

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  • #62
    micropig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    ..and they get a cut when one of the money-vans goes "missing".:eek:

    Ah, I believe they need it though, to fund the poker games:p:D


  • #63
    later12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,298 ✭✭✭✭later12


    Hitler was a public sector worker, you know.


  • #64
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    micropig wrote: »
    Ah, I believe they need it though, to fund the poker games:p:D

    I'll pretend I didn't hear that!..

    And get more loss of hearing compo :D


  • #65
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    later12 wrote: »
    Hitler was a public sector worker, you know.

    And Himmler and Hess were single mothers. Well known fact.


  • #66
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Nodin wrote: »
    And Himmler and Hess were single mothers. Well known fact.

    Give 'em their jew's, they were gas men :D


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  • #67
    micropig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    Nodin wrote: »
    And Himmler and Hess were single mothers. Well known fact.

    Did they get free houses and their gas bills paid?


  • #68
    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Is it true in their [mess?], the defence forces members get ridiculously cheap beer

    There is no VAT or duty on the beer, just one of those traditions

    Is that true?
    Sign me up :D


  • #69
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    Ah, Our mighty public service.
    Jobs for people who otherwise would be on the dole......
    Lol

    On these threads, people are actually not ashamed to abandon any shred of intelligence, or even just basic brain function, at the door...


  • #70
    micropig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    Is it true in their [mess?], the defence forces members get ridiculously cheap beer

    There is no VAT or duty on the beer, just one of those traditions

    Is that true?
    Sign me up :D


    Once you're on the inside, there is as much cheap beer as you wish for;);)


  • #71
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    Is it true in their [mess?], the defence forces members get ridiculously cheap beer

    There is no VAT or duty on the beer, just one of those traditions

    Is that true?
    Sign me up :D

    I think its about €2:40 a pint in the mess, it might be plus or minus that though but its pretty near.


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  • #72
    The_Thing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭The_Thing


    Taxpayers should be mounted in racks like we saw in 'The Matrix' and bled dry.


  • #73
    later12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,298 ✭✭✭✭later12


    Dudess wrote: »
    Lol

    On these threads, people are actually not ashamed to abandon any shred of intelligence, or even just basic brain function, at the door...

    I think there are 2 types of posters in this thread

    1. People who genuinely hate public sector workers for some unknown reason
    2. People who might agree or disagree with breaking the Croke Park Agreement, but overall think the debate has turned farcical and is now a bandwagon of outrageous claims and little else and as such is pretty funny to observe.


  • #74
    Defiler Of The Coffin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Defiler Of The Coffin


    later12 wrote: »
    I think there are 2 types of posters in this thread

    1. People who genuinely hate public sector workers for some unknown reason
    2. People who might agree or disagree with breaking the Croke Park Agreement, but overall think the debate has turned farcical and is now a bandwagon of outrageous claims and little else and as such is pretty funny to observe.

    Don't forget...

    3. Public sector workers


  • #75
    micropig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    4. People who are justified disliking the public sector workers because they see waste, incompetency, etc blah :P


  • #76
    Freddie59
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Lots of people calling for increments to be denied. Which would mean that someone getting a job at age 18 on a payscale with say 12 points would have to remain on the first point until retirement.
    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    From what I can see it's mostly you getting yourself wound up about things too terrible to contemplate and wondering what happens if it all implodes. Maybe nothing terrible will happen and there won't be a word about it in ten years' time.

    Getting "wound up" and being realistic (unlike you) are two very different things. It is that type of attitude and distance from reality that has the country where it is today.


  • #77
    Freddie59
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    woodoo wrote: »
    BTW increments are great. I just got another one there last month.

    Make the most of it. That gravy train will inevitably grind to a halt.


  • #78
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    micropig wrote: »
    4. People who are justified disliking the public sector workers because they see waste
    Yeah I hate when those opulently-living, high-earning bin-men block my street and I can't move my car! :mad:


  • #79
    Bullseye1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,730 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    If they want to maintain the current salary levels then the numbers need to be reduced. You cannot have same numbers and same salaries in this economy. Something has to give.


  • #80
    Freddie59
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    If they want to maintain the current salary levels then the numbers need to be reduced. You cannot have same numbers and same salaries in this economy. Something has to give.

    A cliche, but the elephant in the room. It is utterly unsustainable.


  • #81
    Smidge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Smidge


    Dudess wrote: »
    Yeah I hate when those opulently-living, high-earning bin-men block my street and I can't move my car! :mad:

    Are the bin-men still public sector now that the bin companies are privately owned?


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  • #82
    stripysocks85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭stripysocks85


    The lower/middle earning levels of the Public Sector don't need to be attacked in every PS argument. I work in the PS and I agree, wages DO need to be cut, but at the higher end. It's all relative. There is no doubt that money could be saved.


  • #83
    mattjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    stripysocks85 wrote: »
    The lower/middle earning levels of the Public Sector don't need to be attacked in every PS argument. I work in the PS and I agree, wages DO need to be cut, but at the higher end. It's all relative. There is no doubt that money could be saved.

    Awww , what am I going to do with this flaming torch and pitchfork now ?


  • #84
    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    mishkalucy wrote: »
    Are the bin-men still public sector now that the bin companies are privately owned?

    Different options

    They could transfer to the private company

    Or stay with the council and get transferred somewhere else, water and drainage is a usual one


  • #85
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,787 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    If they want to maintain the current salary levels then the numbers need to be reduced. You cannot have same numbers and same salaries in this economy. Something has to give.

    The numbers have been coming down and will continue to do so as will the overall cost.

    http://debates.oireachtas.ie/dail/2011/12/15/00129.asp

    Overall, from the peak level in 2008, by end 2015 we will see a 37,500 reduction in numbers. There will also be a €3.5 billion or 20% reduction in the Exchequer paybill over that period.

    You may have noticed that the population of the country has increased by 8% between 2006 and 2011 and will likely continue to keep increasing which will mean an increased demand on public services.


  • #86
    Smidge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Smidge


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    The numbers have been coming down and will continue to do so as will the overall cost.

    http://debates.oireachtas.ie/dail/2011/12/15/00129.asp

    Overall, from the peak level in 2008, by end 2015 we will see a 37,500 reduction in numbers. There will also be a €3.5 billion or 20% reduction in the Exchequer paybill over that period.

    You may have noticed that the population of the country has increased by 8% between 2006 and 2011 and will likely continue to keep increasing which will mean an increased demand on public services.

    The population has been increasing and will keep increasing?
    Even with the amount of non-nationals who have returned home, not to mention emigration?


  • #87
    micropig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    the Basxters:D:p:D


  • #88
    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    mishkalucy wrote: »
    Even with the amount of non-nationals who have returned home, not to mention emigration?

    Didn't you see the census?

    The amount of Polish is higher now then it was six years ago in boom times, they're here to stay
    And Romanians have been given access since and they were the fastest growing group

    Then there is the current baby boom

    Yes, population is increasing


  • #89
    micropig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭micropig


    mishkalucy wrote: »
    The population has been increasing and will keep increasing?
    Even with the amount of non-nationals who have returned home, not to mention emigration?

    Down with this sort of thing:D


  • #90
    Smidge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Smidge


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    Didn't you see the census?

    The amount of Polish is higher now then it was six years ago in boom times, they're here to stay
    And Romanians have been given access since and they were the fastest growing group

    Then there is the current baby boom

    Yes, population is increasing

    I didn't see the census actually, hence my asking. I just thought it was very interesting(apart from the baby boom part which everyone knows happens during recessionary times)as I imagined the number who have emigrated would have decreased the population.


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  • #91
    Bullseye1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,730 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    The numbers have been coming down and will continue to do so as will the overall cost.

    http://debates.oireachtas.ie/dail/2011/12/15/00129.asp

    Overall, from the peak level in 2008, by end 2015 we will see a 37,500 reduction in numbers. There will also be a €3.5 billion or 20% reduction in the Exchequer paybill over that period.

    You may have noticed that the population of the country has increased by 8% between 2006 and 2011 and will likely continue to keep increasing which will mean an increased demand on public services.

    Do those 37,000 go onto a pension? Or redundancy? Either way they will still be reciving some monies.

    Population is indeed rising but until the economy can afford it there is no need for increases in the PS numbers.


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