We haven't had a good Public Sector bashing thread in ages

Rabidlamb

You know how they go, we get the pitchforks out cause there all on €80k plus goodbye money plus huge pension.
Then some 2nd year clerical officer comes on telling us he's on €22k & has to eat his children.
We back off for a bit then some tulip gets banned.

Someone start us off there, I've to go drinking in an hour.

Birneybau

Boo hiss.

Ibtl...

Biggins

*gets flaming torch*

...and popcorn!

Mickey Dazzler

Ive said it before I will say it again all public sector works are ...... wait I got banned the last time I called them all scum so better not do that again.

dxhound2005

Rabidlamb wrote: »

You know how they go, we get the pitchforks out cause there all on €80k plus goodbye money plus huge pension.
Then some 2nd year clerical officer comes on telling us he's on €22k & has to eat his children.
We back off for a bit then some tulip gets banned.

Someone start us off there, I've to go drinking in an hour.

Lots of people calling for increments to be denied. Which would mean that someone getting a job at age 18 on a payscale with say 12 points would have to remain on the first point until retirement.

strobe

Mickey Dazzler wrote: »

Ive said it before I will say it again all public sector works are ...... wait I got banned the last time I called them all scum so better not do that again.

Someone went to law school. Subtle man, I like it.

super_furry

Mickey Dazzler wrote: »

Ive said it before I will say it again all public sector works are ...... wait I got banned the last time I called them all scum so better not do that again.

Yeah man, fight the power! Let's burn some nurses and hang some firemen!

arybvtcw0eolkf

Hey group, my name is 'Makikomi'.

I'm a public sector worker employee, a lazy bastard, rich and a scumbag.

/Phew that was easy, they say admitting it to yourself is the start of a cure!.

dxhound2005

Mickey Dazzler wrote: »

Ive said it before I will say it again all public sector works are ...... wait I got banned the last time I called them all scum so better not do that again.

Could you live with the shame if you discovered you had a second cousin who was a clerical officer?

Coriolanus

Melody Raspy Scalp wrote: »

Hey group, my name is 'Melody Raspy Scalp'.

I'm a public sector worker employee, a lazy bastard, rich and a scumbag.

[SIZE="1"]/Phew that was easy, they say admitting it to yourself is the start of a cure!.[/SIZE]

Plus you get to play with guns.

Gummy Panda

Melody Raspy Scalp wrote: »

Hey group, my name is 'Melody Raspy Scalp'.

I'm a public sector worker employee, a lazy bastard, rich and a scumbag.

[SIZE="1"]/Phew that was easy, they say admitting it to yourself is the start of a cure!.[/SIZE]

Stop complaining. You get to blow shít up!

AskMyChocolate

Rabidlamb wrote: »

You know how they go, we get the pitchforks out cause there all on €80k plus goodbye money plus huge pension.
Then some 2nd year clerical officer comes on telling us he's on €22k & has to eat his children.
We back off for a bit then some tulip gets banned.

Someone start us off there, I've to go drinking in an hour.

" 'e's 'avin a go at the flowers now"

Rabidlamb

Never seen the forum as quiet, thought we'd have hit 10 pages by now, oh it's all the public service workers with they day off so they're not foruming.

super_furry

Melody Raspy Scalp wrote: »

I'm a public sector worker employee, a lazy bastard, rich and a scumbag.

I'm semi-state. I work hard but I'm still a scumbag.

ejmaztec

Rabidlamb wrote: »

Never seen the forum as quiet, thought we'd have hit 10 pages by now, oh it's all the public service workers with they day off so they're not foruming.

Friday's the day that they count their cash and tippex the expenses claims, very busy day.

arybvtcw0eolkf

super_furry wrote: »

I'm semi-state. I work hard but I'm still a scumbag.

I know its hard, but you're getting there.

Admit it NOW, you do not work hard.. Come on, the cure is near!.

Dudess

I hate those super-high earning street cleaners and their cushy lifestyles! :mad:

Larianne

Dudess wrote: »

I hate those super-high earning street cleaners and their cushy lifestyles! :mad:

I saw a really hawt street cleaner the other day in those little mini road sweepers.

Swoooooooooooooooon.

Nodin

Rabidlamb wrote: »

You know how they go, we get the pitchforks out cause there all on €80k plus goodbye money plus huge pension.
Then some 2nd year clerical officer comes on telling us he's on €22k & has to eat his children.
We back off for a bit then some tulip gets banned.

Someone start us off there, I've to go drinking in an hour.

Something something civil service caused WWII blah. Something something disband the army. Blah blah disband the navy. Yammer yammer cromwell was right. Whinge moan gards have it easy.

super_furry

Nodin wrote: »

Something something civil service caused WWII blah. Something something disband the army. Blah blah disband the navy. Yammer yammer cromwell was right. Whinge moan gards have it easy.

Then Keith AFC comes in, says something vaguely related to the Queen, and we all have a party.

Freddie59

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Lots of people calling for increments to be denied. Which would mean that someone getting a job at age 18 on a payscale with say 12 points would have to remain on the first point until retirement.

No. Lots of people on here asking that Public Sector workers be paid relative to the State's income.

Lots of people on here asking that the ridiculous "entitlements" be discontinued.

And - gasp - lots of people on here asking for their numbers to be reduced in accordance with the State's ability to pay.

Lots of people on here wondering why we're borrowing €400m a week to fund all of the above.

Hootanany

Its the Unions not the workers.

Rabidlamb

Freddie59 wrote: »

No. Lots of people on here asking that Public Sector workers be paid relative to the State's income.

Lots of people on here asking that the ridiculous "entitlements" be discontinued.

And - gasp - lots of people on here asking for their numbers to be reduced in accordance with the State's ability to pay.

Lots of people on here wondering why we're borrowing €400m a week to fund all of the above.

Next year will not be a good year for them.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Freddie59 wrote: »

No. Lots of people on here asking that Public Sector workers be paid relative to the State's income.

Lots of people on here asking that the ridiculous "entitlements" be discontinued.

And - gasp - lots of people on here asking for their numbers to be reduced in accordance with the State's ability to pay.

Lots of people on here wondering why we're borrowing €400m a week to fund all of the above.

Lots of people don't know about my free gym use too.. I couldn't possibly start my day without a sauna, pfft.

xflyer

No need to bash the public service. On the whole they are very neccessary and do a good job. It's just that there's too many of them in the wrong jobs, too few in the right jobs and it's costs too much money to run the whole thing.

The solution is obvious to everyone except the government apparently who seem to think continuously raising taxes from a smaller and smaller tax base is going to 'revive the economy'.

dxhound2005

Freddie59 wrote: »

No. Lots of people on here asking that Public Sector workers be paid relative to the State's income.

Lots of people on here asking that the ridiculous "entitlements" be discontinued.

And - gasp - lots of people on here asking for their numbers to be reduced in accordance with the State's ability to pay.

Lots of people on here wondering why we're borrowing €400m a week to fund all of the above.

From what I can see it's mostly you getting yourself wound up about things too terrible to contemplate and wondering what happens if it all implodes. Maybe nothing terrible will happen and there won't be a word about it in ten years' time.

MagicSean

Rabidlamb wrote: »

Never seen the forum as quiet, thought we'd have hit 10 pages by now, oh it's all the public service workers with they day off so they're not foruming.

That's a mighty high horse for someone who is aiding his friend to defraud a bank and shaft the rest of us with his mortgage.

gerryo777

Ah, Our mighty public service.
Jobs for people who otherwise would be on the dole......

mcmoustache

Could we not be a bit more focused in our public sector bashing? A lot of people like to group all state employees together as though they all had the same characteristics.

Personally, my only gripe is with the ones in the Civil Service who don't actually do anything. Anyone who's ever worked in the Civil Service (outside of Revenue - they're really good) knows who I'm talking about. The guy who's been there over 10 years who comes into his office and reads the Times till lunch, updates a spreadsheet or two, takes a brief tour of the office, browses the internet and goes home for the day.

These make up a small percentage of the Civil Service but they shouldn't be getting an industrial level salary from the state just to hang around the office.

mcmoustache

Oh, and before anyone pounces, actual public sector workers (AGS, Military, Nurses, Teachers) aren't who I have a problem with. It's the minority who don't actually work in the Civil Service but for some reason aren't being removed from the system that I think are a big problem.

Their very presence in there is cancerous.

dxhound2005

xflyer wrote: »

No need to bash the public service. On the whole they are very neccessary and do a good job. It's just that there's too many of them in the wrong jobs, too few in the right jobs and it's costs too much money to run the whole thing.

The solution is obvious to everyone except the government apparently who seem to think continuously raising taxes from a smaller and smaller tax base is going to 'revive the economy'.

How is the tax base smaller if the population of the country increased by a million since 1991 and 500,000 since 2006 alone? And the number of people at work went up from 1.2 million to 2.1 million reduced now to possibly 1.8 million. What are the wrong jobs and the right jobs and workers you are talking about? And you must know that costs have been reduced and are continuing to be reduced with an expected €3.5 billion less for wages and 20% less PS workers by 2015 compared to 2008?

ProfessorWeeto

Rabidlamb wrote: »

You know how they go, we get the pitchforks out cause there all on €80k plus goodbye money plus huge pension.
Then some 2nd year clerical officer comes on telling us he's on €22k & has to eat his children.
We back off for a bit then some tulip gets banned.

Someone start us off there, I've to go drinking in an hour.

So basically you are putting the whole public sector bashing in a jokey way. With hopes a full blown bashing fest happens, right?

... looks like you're getting your way too :rolleyes:

Man, there are some moans on here. Ever notice the way its always about "someone else" - like a person who has a job moaning about people on the dole - or vice versa - or unmarried mothers getting their allowance etc.

dxhound2005

ProfessorWeeto wrote: »

So basically you are putting the whole public sector bashing in a jokey way. With hopes a full blown bashing fest happens, right?

... looks like you're getting your way too :rolleyes:

Man, there are some moans on here. Ever notice the way its always about "someone else" - like a person who has a job moaning about people on the dole - or vice versa - or unmarried mothers getting their allowance etc.

And the place is full of experts on every subject under the sun with instant solutions for the most complex of problems which the idiots in charge don't have a clue about.

arybvtcw0eolkf

ProfessorWeeto wrote: »

So basically you are putting the whole public sector bashing in a jokey way. With hopes a full blown bashing fest happens, right?

... looks like you're getting your way too :rolleyes:

Man, there are some moans on here. Ever notice the way its always about "someone else" - like a person who has a job moaning about people on the dole - or vice versa - or unmarried mothers getting their allowance etc.

Don't get me started on that shower :mad:

woodoo

Mickey Dazzler wrote: »

Ive said it before I will say it again all public sector works are ...... wait I got banned the last time I called them all scum so better not do that again.

Don't be a hypocrite and make sure you call every public sector worker you come in contact with scum.

woodoo

Rabidlamb wrote: »

Never seen the forum as quiet, thought we'd have hit 10 pages by now, oh it's all the public service workers with they day off so they're not foruming.

Its the only reason i'm on during the day. We can't access boards or any other social media at work.

Us hard working souls are given good Friday off. And its needed to recover from such hard graft.

xflyer

dxhound2005 wrote: »

How is the tax base smaller if the population of the country increased by a million since 1991 and 500,000 since 2006 alone? And the number of people at work went up from 1.2 million to 2.1 million reduced now to possibly 1.8 million. What are the wrong jobs and the right jobs and workers you are talking about? And you must know that costs have been reduced and are continuing to be reduced with an expected €3.5 billion less for wages and 20% less PS workers by 2015 compared to 2008?

Are you serious? If 2.1 million at work is being reduced to 1.8. Then that's a smaller tax base. If you exclude PS workers, 300,000? the base is lower still. We're not talking about 'since 1991' but since 2007.

As for the the right jobs and the wrong jobs. Do you need me to draw a picture? Shortages of frontline and hands on workers yet overstaffing in other sectors particularly in parts of the civil service. Off the top of my head I can think of two people I know who are woefully under employed and overpaid in their jobs. I'm sure there are plenty of others.

As for the expected €3.5 billion reduction and less workers. You can only save so much by natural wastage and early retirement and even then that's to the detriment of services provided. Are you the last person in the country who actually believes the Croke park agreement is going to produce the neccessary savings?

The fact is that targetted pay and job cuts are needed and will come. Anyone who thinks otherwise is living in denial.

Plus what's with the hypersensitivity, I wasn't even bashing the PS. Just pointing out the reality?

MugMugs

ProfessorWeeto wrote: »

or unmarried mothers getting their allowance etc.

Because it's really pleasing to get up at 6am, drive to work watching the petrol needle the whole way there, work in hell, eat your scraped together sambo with soggy bread because you're too skint to head out to the shops and then drive home once again staring at the needle hoping you have enough fuel to get there all the time being screwed by the tax man only to then log on to Book Face and see 5 grouped single mothers chatting about what new tops they just bought whilst co habiting with their partners in accomodation being paid for by the state.......

woodoo

BTW increments are great. I just got another one there last month.

Rabidlamb

woodoo wrote: »

BTW increments are great. I just got another one there last month.

[shakes fist angry]
You people give Croke Park a bad name.

arybvtcw0eolkf

woodoo wrote: »

BTW increments are great. I just got another one there last month.

I'm on my max increments, wouldn't mind a pay rise tbh.

Rabidlamb

Melody Raspy Scalp wrote: »

I'm on my max increments, wouldn't mind a pay rise tbh.

Invent a Grade then, Junior Vice President of Interdepartmental Liaison, the sky's the limit baby.

woodoo

Rabidlamb wrote: »

[shakes fist angry]
You people give Croke Park a bad name.

This thread was started as a pisstake so i'm going to act the goat here

micropig

Melody Raspy Scalp wrote: »

Hey group, my name is 'Melody Raspy Scalp'.

I'm a public sector worker employee, a lazy bastard, rich and a scumbag.

/Phew that was easy, they say admitting it to yourself is the start of a cure!.

Tell us more about your bonuses & pensions, might kick start the thread:D

ejmaztec wrote: »

Friday's the day that they count their cash and tippex the expenses claims, very busy day.

Don't forget about refilling the paper clip trays;)

Hootanany wrote: »

Its the Unions not the workers.

Who makes up these mythical unions you speak of, if not the workers?

woodoo wrote: »

BTW increments are great. I just got another one there last month.

You're entitled to it though, processing 3 applications a day is tough going, did you manage to get any expenses on top of it?:p

woodoo

micropig wrote: »

You're entitled to it though, processing 3 applications a day is tough going, did you manage to get any expenses on top of it?:p

What applications. I don't have anything to do with applications.

arybvtcw0eolkf

micropig wrote: »

Tell us more about your bonuses & pensions, might kick start the thread:D

No bonuses I'm afraid, but I do get a decent pension and for those of us who are killed in action or die in service the widow's and orphans pension plans pay out handsomely.

Oh, I do have free medical (including dental) care - but that's to ensure I stay in good physical condition to serve my state.. God forbid I step on a landmine when I have high blood pressure, imagine what that would do to me!.

Defiler Of The Coffin

A public sector worker ate my hamster :mad:

micropig

woodoo wrote: »

What applications. I don't have anything to do with applications.

I never get through to the right department, do you want to pass me on to your colleague who deals with it, but is out of the office at the moment?:D:p

Melody Raspy Scalp wrote: »

No bonuses I'm afraid, but I do get a decent pension and for those of us who are killed in action or die in service the widow's and orphans pension plans pay out handsomely.

Oh, I do have free medical (including dental) care - but that's to ensure I stay in good physical condition to serve my state.. God forbid I step on a landmine when I have high blood pressure, imagine what that would do to me!.

Yes but there has to be more perks. Did your department relocate 15 years ago and you all still get a relocation & lunch allowance, or something?;)

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

A public sector worker ate my hamster :mad:

I am a public sector workers hamster:(

arybvtcw0eolkf

micropig wrote: »

Yes but there has to be more perks. Did your department relocate 15 years ago and you all still get a relocation & lunch allowance, or something?;)

No, but I was under fire in Lebanon 15 years ago.. The sunshine and extra pay were nice at the time

woodoo

micropig wrote: »

I never get through to the right department, do you want to pass me on to your colleague who deals with it, but is out of the office at the moment?:D:p (

I think you are refering to that Medical Card thread. I don't do that type of work thankfully.

Public sector services should be outsourced to the private sector!