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Unprovoked assault, playground at the canal Thursday night 2.30

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  • #32
    inisboffin
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    Ah, so your point BC, was based on assumptions that you made, which turned out not to be true. MY original point (remember you started off quoting me), was that drunk or sober, it was still a crime that should be dealt with.
    Plenty of bar staff from the area pop into Massimos for one or two after work. That's just one example.

    Sorry OP, none of his is helping your situation. Any joy with info?


  • #33
    BhoscaCapall
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    Irishgoatman wrote: »
    It's quite obvious that you don't know anyone who can enjoy going out without drinking.
    If you did you wouldn't be posting such purile and argumentative statements.
    I know people who do not drink, but I am not stupid/ignorant/naive enough to think that the other 99% of people leaving a pub at 2.30am are not inebriated.
    inisboffin wrote: »
    Ah, so your point BC, was based on assumptions that you made, which turned out not to be true
    They haven't turned out not to be true. All that's happened is a couple of posters have treated us to some entertaining anecdotes about a couple of people who do not drink. This does not change the fact that most people leaving a pub in the early of the morning do drink, and are drunk. This fact continues to escape you.
    . MY original point (remember you started off quoting me), was that drunk or sober, it was still a crime that should be dealt with.
    A point I agreed with, and then went on to support the OP by defending the credibility of those who drink. Take a few deep breaths and read over it again. Nobody disagreed with you.


  • #34
    inisboffin
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    OP said they weren't drunk.


  • #35
    Irishgoatman
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    BhoscaCapall wrote: »
    I know people who do not drink, but I am not stupid/ignorant/naive enough to think that the other 99% of people leaving a pub at 2.30am are not inebriated.


    They haven't turned out not to be true. All that's happened is a couple of posters have treated us to some entertaining anecdotes about a couple of people who do not drink. This does not change the fact that most people leaving a pub in the early of the morning do drink, and are drunk. This fact continues to escape you.


    A point I agreed with, and then went on to support the OP by defending the credibility of those who drink. Take a few deep breaths and read over it again. Nobody disagreed with you.

    Oh dear, off you go again.:eek:


  • #36
    BhoscaCapall
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    inisboffin wrote: »
    OP said they weren't drunk.
    Funny, I expected him to say he was blotto :rolleyes:

    Not that that takes anything away from his case here, which yet again, was my original point.


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  • #37
    Davyhal
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    BhoscaCapall wrote: »
    Funny, I expected him to say he was blotto :rolleyes:

    Not that that takes anything away from his case here, which yet again, was my original point.

    Drunk or not, the OP has had a traumatic, undeserved experience, and I'm sure you adamently trying to insist that he was intoxicated is not exactly helping the poor guy! Often I would go out for 5 hours, only have 3 or 4 drinks in that time, so I would not be drunk. But even if drunk, he got a battering that was uncalled for - his alcohol level at the time of the attack is irrelevant


  • #38
    Gran Hermano
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    Sorry to hear OP.
    Reminds me of this thread a few months back
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056486377


  • #39
    BhoscaCapall
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    Davyhal wrote: »
    Drunk or not, the OP has had a traumatic, undeserved experience, and I'm sure you adamently trying to insist that he was intoxicated is not exactly helping the poor guy!
    And before this thread was dragged off course into an argument about whether or not it's likely the 2.30am clientèle of a pub might be drunk, I was speaking out in support of the OP. I wish him all the best and I think it's disgraceful that the so called guardians of our peace were not more forthcoming in helping him.
    Davyhal wrote: »
    his alcohol level at the time of the attack is irrelevant
    Literally the point I made.


  • #40
    ben.schlomo
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    BhoscaCapall wrote: »
    I know people who do not drink, but I am not stupid/ignorant/naive enough to think that the other 99% of people leaving a pub at 2.30am are not inebriated.


    They haven't turned out not to be true. All that's happened is a couple of posters have treated us to some entertaining anecdotes about a couple of people who do not drink. This does not change the fact that most people leaving a pub in the early of the morning do drink, and are drunk. This fact continues to escape you.


    A point I agreed with, and then went on to support the OP by defending the credibility of those who drink. Take a few deep breaths and read over it again. Nobody disagreed with you.
    A lot of people are able to handle their drink and go out to enjoy themselves and not just get trolleyed as they have no tolerance for it.

    Rino, We left the Roisin that night about 1am but i didnt notice any skanger groups around, assuming thats a fitting description.


  • #41
    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
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    I know theres a group of lads from the Claddagh who hang around back the west and sometimes down the long walk looking to cause trouble, they jumped a friend of a friend down there recently and gave him a pretty bad beating.

    Sorry to hear about this OP, hope you get sorted.


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  • #42
    rino87
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    No more to report. Still cant eat as ive broken bones in my face, but the bruises are healing. Teeth are my biggest concern. Theyre in bits, cant be repaired for at least a month and are going to cost me a fortune. My job involves dealing with the public and looking neat and tidy, dont think my gob full of smashed teeth is going to go down too well there.

    Braindead inbreeds kicking people in the face while theyre on the ground, and its just getting more common.


  • #43
    BhoscaCapall
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    ben.schlomo wrote: »
    A lot of people are able to handle their drink and go out to enjoy themselves and not just get trolleyed as they have no tolerance for it
    Precisely. Thank you for elaborating on what I've said, hopefully people will understand it.


  • #44
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    deccurley wrote: »
    I know theres a group of lads from the Claddagh who hang around back the west and sometimes down the long walk looking to cause trouble, they jumped a friend of a friend down there recently and gave him a pretty bad beating.

    Sorry to hear about this OP, hope you get sorted.

    Sorry there now buddy, I live in Claddagh and there are no lads from here who go around looking to cause trouble.

    I was from the last group to hang around the streets(Im 25 now) theres a few lads who are 20ish who kick football up the road from me, but theres no groups any younger than that anymore.

    Your perception of where they are from might be in fact clouded by the area you saw these lads, for example in the ''Claddagh Park'' though lads come down from Westside and to a lesser extent the other side of town to bush there.

    There's a group from ''The West''/Shantalla in the 20-25 age bracket who might still go bushing from time to time(inbetween Claddagh Park and Shantall), I only know 4/5 from this group to talk too but I wouldn't see any of them being the types for an unprovoked assault.

    100% fact though the group you talk off are NOT from Claddagh.


  • #45
    Discodog
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    RINO87 wrote: »
    Braindead inbreeds kicking people in the face while theyre on the ground, and its just getting more common.

    Anyone kicking someone in the head, whilst they are on the ground, should be charged with attempted murder.


  • #46
    Placebo Effect
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    gilberto_eire wrote: »
    Sorry there now buddy, I live in Claddagh and there are no lads from here who go around looking to cause trouble.

    I was from the last group to hang around the streets(Im 25 now) theres a few lads who are 20ish who kick football up the road from me, but theres no groups any younger than that anymore.

    Your perception of where they are from might be in fact clouded by the area you saw these lads, for example in the ''Claddagh Park'' though lads come down from Westside and to a lesser extent the other side of town to bush there.

    There's a group from ''The West''/Shantalla in the 20-25 age bracket who might still go bushing from time to time(inbetween Claddagh Park and Shantall), I only know 4/5 from this group to talk too but I wouldn't see any of them being the types for an unprovoked assault.

    100% fact though the group you talk off are NOT from Claddagh.

    Well said..


  • #47
    bagels
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    Discodog wrote: »
    Anyone kicking someone in the head, whilst they are on the ground, should be charged with attempted murder.

    Well said


  • #48
    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
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    gilberto_eire wrote: »
    Sorry there now buddy, I live in Claddagh and there are no lads from here who go around looking to cause trouble.

    I was from the last group to hang around the streets(Im 25 now) theres a few lads who are 20ish who kick football up the road from me, but theres no groups any younger than that anymore.

    Your perception of where they are from might be in fact clouded by the area you saw these lads, for example in the ''Claddagh Park'' though lads come down from Westside and to a lesser extent the other side of town to bush there.

    There's a group from ''The West''/Shantalla in the 20-25 age bracket who might still go bushing from time to time(inbetween Claddagh Park and Shantall), I only know 4/5 from this group to talk too but I wouldn't see any of them being the types for an unprovoked assault.

    100% fact though the group you talk off are NOT from Claddagh.

    How did I know someone from Claddagh would read my comment and go off on one :o

    I respect absolutely your right to defend the area that you come from, but I am telling you for an absolute fact, that at least 2 of these lads were living there last September anyway. Maybe they're not from there originally.


  • #49
    fishy fishy
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    gilberto_eire wrote: »
    Sorry there now buddy, I live in Claddagh and there are no lads from here who go around looking to cause trouble.

    I was from the last group to hang around the streets(Im 25 now) theres a few lads who are 20ish who kick football up the road from me, but theres no groups any younger than that anymore.

    Your perception of where they are from might be in fact clouded by the area you saw these lads, for example in the ''Claddagh Park'' though lads come down from Westside and to a lesser extent the other side of town to bush there.

    There's a group from ''The West''/Shantalla in the 20-25 age bracket who might still go bushing from time to time(inbetween Claddagh Park and Shantall), I only know 4/5 from this group to talk too but I wouldn't see any of them being the types for an unprovoked assault.

    100% fact though the group you talk off are NOT from Claddagh.


    how do you know they are not from Claddagh? Just because it is an old area does not mean new families have not moved in there in recent times. I see you have no problem laying blame on your neighbouring areas, but are adament it is not a "claddagh" group. Fact is, until these people are caught, nobody actually knows where they are from. Claddagh included.


  • #50
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    fishy fishy wrote: »
    how do you know they are not from Claddagh? Just because it is an old area does not mean new families have not moved in there in recent times. I see you have no problem laying blame on your neighbouring areas, but are adament it is not a "claddagh" group. Fact is, until these people are caught, nobody actually knows where they are from. Claddagh included.

    Because I know my area and I'd at least know the faces of most Galway folk this side of the Corrib.
    Not laying blame at anyones door step, I have lots of friends from Westside and lived there before, but I know first hand that a lot of the younger generation from there hang around down the West(and are the most likely culprits in this sitiuation).

    I actually didn't blame those lads from Shantalla/The West, but was pointing out they could be mistaken for ''Claddagh'' and are the only lads from between here and Shantalla who might hang around that area having a few drinks, then again as I said, I don't know anyone of that group to be like that.

    How big do you think Claddagh is?... and have you any experience of the area?.
    It's more like a small village than a suburb, and there are no Claddagh groups as the poster said.

    Being from the area and around it regularly I think I'd know if any ''Claddagh groups'' were hanging around.


  • #51
    muppetkiller
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    I'd agree with gilberto_eire here, as a Man for 'The West' and living in the docks area there's no real scumbags living in the claddagh area.

    I will say though that it's the first time in about 5 years where I've felt intimidated around the Spanish Arch area. Since the sun came out there have been a serious collection of utter scum all around the Wolftone Bridge area. Especially that little grass walk-way down to the Quay where they let the boats out. The Scum ladies were nicely dressed in Floresent Jump suits and the Scum boys in their finest Adidas varieties. When they weren't fighting and swearing at each other they were looking for trouble elsewhere. Carlsberg dont do stereotypes but if they did.....


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  • #52
    ben.schlomo
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    muppetkiller wrote: »
    I'd agree with gilberto_eire here, as a Man for 'The West' and living in the docks area there's no real scumbags living in the claddagh area.

    I will say though that it's the first time in about 5 years where I've felt intimidated around the Spanish Arch area. Since the sun came out there have been a serious collection of utter scum all around the Wolftone Bridge area. Especially that little grass walk-way down to the Quay where they let the boats out. The Scum ladies were nicely dressed in Floresent Jump suits and the Scum boys in their finest Adidas varieties. When they weren't fighting and swearing at each other they were looking for trouble elsewhere. Carlsberg dont do stereotypes but if they did.....
    Saw those exact people on the Monday of Summer week down there, what specimens of humans.:rolleyes:


  • #53
    moonflower
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    BhoscaCapall wrote: »
    Yeah, because people leaving Massimo's at half 2 in the morning had obviously just popped in for a couple pints at 1 in the morning :rolleyes:

    A lot of people who work in bars or restaurants which close around midnight would pop into a pub for a pint around 1am and leave sober at 2am. Just because someone is in a bar til closing does not mean they're going to be drunk when leaving.


  • #54
    Funk It
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    moonflower wrote: »
    A lot of people who work in bars or restaurants which close around midnight would pop into a pub for a pint around 1am and leave sober at 2am. Just because someone is in a bar til closing does not mean they're going to be drunk when leaving.

    Ah come on now, this has already been argued, we all know what was meant and none of the arguing is in anyway helpful. It was just a generalized comment, welcome to the internet.

    Shocking news Rino, hope some good comes of your search and you find the people responsible.


  • #55
    fishy fishy
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    gilberto_eire wrote: »
    Because I know my area and I'd at least know the faces of most Galway folk this side of the Corrib.
    Not laying blame at anyones door step, I have lots of friends from Westside and lived there before, but I know first hand that a lot of the younger generation from there hang around down the West(and are the most likely culprits in this sitiuation).

    I actually didn't blame those lads from Shantalla/The West, but was pointing out they could be mistaken for ''Claddagh'' and are the only lads from between here and Shantalla who might hang around that area having a few drinks, then again as I said, I don't know anyone of that group to be like that.

    How big do you think Claddagh is?... and have you any experience of the area?.
    It's more like a small village than a suburb, and there are no Claddagh groups as the poster said.

    Being from the area and around it regularly I think I'd know if any ''Claddagh groups'' were hanging around.


    wow, 25 years old and all that travelling. And you know everyone west of the corrib. Not only in Claddagh, but in the surrounding neighourhoods also. I'm nearly triple your age, have known Claddagh since way before you were born pet and even I wouldn't assume to know where everyone is from at any one time. :rolleyes: And its quite funny how you assume also that because they are not from claddagh, they must automatically be from Shantalla/west. Would you say the same about the people that congregate at Spanish arch. Your post is naive to say the least (no offence).


  • #56
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    fishy fishy wrote: »
    wow, 25 years old and all that travelling. And you know everyone west of the corrib. Not only in Claddagh, but in the surrounding neighourhoods also. I'm nearly triple your age, have known Claddagh since way before you were born pet and even I wouldn't assume to know where everyone is from at any one time. :rolleyes: And its quite funny how you assume also that because they are not from claddagh, they must automatically be from Shantalla/west. Would you say the same about the people that congregate at Spanish arch. Your post is naive to say the least (no offence).

    Don't patrionize me.

    I'm very outgoing and Galway isn't a big place when it comes to locals.
    Maybe you were a hermit growing up and had a lack of friends.

    I on the other hand am capable of knowing the main groups of ''out going'' people from the ages of 18-30 from this side of the Corrib.
    Through playing Junior football, from primary and secondary and from living in two/three different areas this side at various points in my life.

    And again, I said the only group from between here and Shantalla who still have a group that hang around street corners(having a few drinks before town) are that group from the West/Shantalla.

    What has the Spanish Arch got to do with this?...... everyone knows the Spanish Arch is full of randoms from students to locals.
    The back alley near the Roisin Dubh on the other hand, ya lots of students and blow ins congregate in places like that :rolleyes:
    Stop changing the examples to suit.

    I don't care what age you are, or how many you don't know.
    Don't try tell me I don't know my area and the people who live in it.
    I've already had a poster from the West back me up, so I'll take his word over some randomer who could be from anywhere.

    No, YOUR post is naive if you think Galway is that big that outgoing, social locals aren't aware of the majority of others from the area and surroundings(there aren't many secondary's this side of the corrib which pools ye in even more)

    If you're going to patronize me in future... use a paragraph ;)

    P.S Congrats on being a 75 year old member of boards :rolleyes:


  • #57
    fishy fishy
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    gilberto_eire wrote: »
    Don't patrionize me.

    I'm very outgoing and Galway isn't a big place when it comes to locals.
    Maybe you were a hermit growing up and had a lack of friends.

    I on the other hand am capable of knowing the main groups of ''out going'' people from the ages of 18-30 from this side of the Corrib.
    Through playing Junior football, from primary and secondary and from living in two/three different areas this side at various points in my life.

    And again, I said the only group from between here and Shantalla who still have a group that hang around street corners(having a few drinks before town) are that group from the West/Shantalla.

    What has the Spanish Arch got to do with this?...... everyone knows the Spanish Arch is full of randoms from students to locals.
    The back alley near the Roisin Dubh on the other hand, ya lots of students and blow ins congregate in places like that :rolleyes:
    Stop changing the examples to suit.

    I don't care what age you are, or how many you don't know.
    Don't try tell me I don't know my area and the people who live in it.
    I've already had a poster from the West back me up, so I'll take his word over some randomer who could be from anywhere.

    No, YOUR post is naive if you think Galway is that big that outgoing, social locals aren't aware of the majority of others from the area and surroundings(there aren't many secondary's this side of the corrib which pools ye in even more)

    If you're going to patronize me in future... use a paragraph ;)

    P.S Congrats on being a 75 year old member of boards :rolleyes:


    not quite 75 yet, but not far off I must say.

    You keep on believing you know everybody in the West - the rest of us will just have a chuckle at the naivete. :o

    We all thought we were "know it alls" when we were 25. However once we had grown up and actually lived, we realise we knew nothing at 25.


  • #58
    fishy fishy
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    gilberto_eire wrote: »
    Don't patrionize me.

    I'm very outgoing and Galway isn't a big place when it comes to locals.
    Maybe you were a hermit growing up and had a lack of friends.

    I on the other hand am capable of knowing the main groups of ''out going'' people from the ages of 18-30 from this side of the Corrib.
    Through playing Junior football, from primary and secondary and from living in two/three different areas this side at various points in my life.

    And again, I said the only group from between here and Shantalla who still have a group that hang around street corners(having a few drinks before town) are that group from the West/Shantalla.

    What has the Spanish Arch got to do with this?...... everyone knows the Spanish Arch is full of randoms from students to locals.
    The back alley near the Roisin Dubh on the other hand, ya lots of students and blow ins congregate in places like that :rolleyes:
    Stop changing the examples to suit.

    I don't care what age you are, or how many you don't know.
    Don't try tell me I don't know my area and the people who live in it.
    I've already had a poster from the West back me up, so I'll take his word over some randomer who could be from anywhere.

    No, YOUR post is naive if you think Galway is that big that outgoing, social locals aren't aware of the majority of others from the area and surroundings(there aren't many secondary's this side of the corrib which pools ye in even more)

    If you're going to patronize me in future... use a paragraph ;)

    P.S Congrats on being a 75 year old member of boards :rolleyes:



    so you concur it could have been "randomers" or "blow-ins" (i.e. blow ins are people NOT from Galway, randomers can be people from anywhere) that hang out there. You must know the apartments down at the back of the roisin, surely you would since you know everyone and everthing west of the corrib.

    which makes your Shantalla/West point very invalid.
    ;)


  • #59
    skelliser
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    sorry gotta back up gilberto as i too am originally from the claddagh area.

    There isnt many youths or groups of young lads from the claddagh and surrounding areas anymore as most now have grown up.


  • #60
    fishy fishy
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    skelliser wrote: »
    sorry gotta back up gilberto as i too am originally from the claddagh area.

    There isnt many youths or groups of young lads from the claddagh and surrounding areas anymore as most now have grown up.


    I really hope neither of you go into detective work. :D


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  • #61
    ben.schlomo
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    fishy fishy wrote: »
    so you concur it could have been "randomers" or "blow-ins" (i.e. blow ins are people NOT from Galway, randomers can be people from anywhere) that hang out there. You must know the apartments down at the back of the roisin, surely you would since you know everyone and everthing west of the corrib.

    which makes your Shantalla/West point very invalid.
    ;)
    Why are your posts so childish, gilberto never said he knows everyone and everything as you put it, he said he is aware of any groups of young lads drinking round the west as he lives there, he explained how he knows them and yet you just reply by patronising him and anyone who is also from there and of the same opinion.

    Do you frequent the West at night, do you know who these groups of people are? Im gonna go out on a limb here and say you dont so therefore the word of locals would be worth far more to me than some patronising individual with nothing to go on.


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