Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12

willmunny1990 · 02-04-2012 02:52PM

Samich wrote: »

Even if we win the season is far from over.

I think City at home are pretty unreal, so getting points at city isn't too odds on.

Utd had a terrible run of games with Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs and Liverpool and they won 10/12, so saying City have it tough v Arsenal and that is untrue. If City play as well as they can they will win.

are you 6 or something? what kind of weird logic is that?

Of course arsenal away will be tough for City just like it was for united. But it will be tougher for city, cause i seem to remember nani and valencia raping arsenal because they had no full backs at the time. they do now.

if City play as well as they can? And what signs have they shown that they are going to do that? Absolutely ****ing none, their not going to return to their early season form in the flick of a switch.

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

United drop points tonight, and City beat Arsenal away and it's a totally different ball game.

I cant believe how many neutral fans think it is all over.

Thankfully won more run ins then lost, but this league is still in balance, even if it's advantage United,.

absolute nonsense, it is not in the balance. United are 1/6 for the league for a reason, because they are clear and obvious favorites.

no they don't have it won yet, but it's not 'in the balance' ffs.

The_Kew_Tour · 02-04-2012 02:55PM

willmunny1990 wrote: »

absolute nonsense, it is not in the balance. United are 1/6 for the league for a reason, because they are clear and obvious favorites.

no they don't have it won yet, but it's not 'in the balance' ffs.

and it be the thinking of people like you that will be first to barge in and say United fans were too cocky and thought they had league won in March.

Like I say draw or defeat tonight and City beat Arsenal that leaves 3 points at best between us. Then City beat United at home and who is on top?

Have you only been following football lately?

kryogen · 02-04-2012 02:56PM

United are 1/6 for the league? with who? as dirty as I might feel I would possibly have to have a slice of City at 7/2 or thereabouts

Jaysus! its true! United 1/6 with Powers and City 4/1! price seems to big for me to resist on City if Im totally honest

jaykay74 · 02-04-2012 02:59PM

kryogen wrote: »

United are 1/6 for the league? with who? as dirty as I might feel I would possibly have to have a slice of City at 7/2 or thereabouts

Jaysus! its true! United 1/6 with Powers and City 4/1! price seems to big for me to resist on City if Im totally honest

city are 4/1 in paddys for the league. Decent bet I would have thought.

willmunny1990 · 02-04-2012 03:01PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

and it be the thinking of people like you that will be first to barge in and say United fans were too cocky and thought they had league won in March.

Like I say draw or defeat tonight and City beat Arsenal that leaves 3 points at best between us. Then City beat United at home and who is on top?

Have you only been following football lately?

and that is a very unlikely scenario but if that did happen then the title would be back in the balance. it'd be ok to say that then.

what's much more likely to happen is united winning their next two games and city dropping points at Arsenal.

city are playing ****e, have difficult fixtures and will probably be 5 points behind tonight.

United have much easier fixtures, have a probable 5 point lead and only a few games to go.

It's a long shot for City to win it. don't pretend otherwise. the title is most certainly not in the balance as things stand right now.

willmunny1990 · 02-04-2012 03:02PM

jaykay74 wrote: »

city are 4/1 in paddys for the league. Decent bet I would have thought.

There we go. 4/1 to win it and will probably be 5 or 6/1 tonight.

How in Gods name is that 'in the balance'?

Complete bull****.

Mars Bar · 02-04-2012 03:05PM

I can't believe people are using betting odds to say whether the league is "in the balance." Watch the football for crying out loud...

The_Kew_Tour · 02-04-2012 03:06PM

willmunny1990 wrote: »

and that is a very unlikely scenario but if that did happen then the title would be back in the balance. it'd be ok to say that then.

what's much more likely to happen is united winning their next two games and city dropping points at Arsenal.

city are playing ****e, have difficult fixtures and will probably be 5 points behind tonight.

United have much easier fixtures, have a probable 5 point lead and only a few games to go.

It's a long shot for City to win it. don't pretend otherwise. the title is most certainly not in the balance as things stand right now.

Likely never won anything.

If there is one thing from watching and playing football is that there is no certainty.

Your taking this "balance" way too literally altogether. 4/1 is still at 20% chance of winning the league according to the bookies.

That's still enough reason not too be getting too carried away just yet.

kryogen · 02-04-2012 03:06PM

willmunny1990 wrote: »

There we go. 4/1 to win it and will probably be 5 or 6/1 tonight.

How in Gods name is that 'in the balance'?

Complete bull****.

Em, because leagues are not won in a bookies?

kryogen · 02-04-2012 03:09PM

The league is still in the balance, anybody over the age of 12 or who has been following football for more then 3 weeks or so would be aware of this.

United are 2 points ahead of City. with 8 games to play and City have 7. Especially paying attention to the fact that both teams meet again in the league it is ludicrous to come to the conclusion that the league is not still in the balance.

willmunny1990 · 02-04-2012 03:09PM

Mars Bar wrote: »

I can't believe people are using betting odds to say whether the league is "in the balance." Watch the football for crying out loud...

I have been watching the football. City have been **** and are dropping points left right and centre, have tough games coming up and are probably going to be 5 points behind tonight. United have easier fixtures and will pick up more points.

i already explained this but used betting odds to further emphasise because the kew tour persisted with his 'in the balance' nonsense.

willmunny1990 · 02-04-2012 03:12PM

kryogen wrote: »

The league is still in the balance, anybody over the age of 12 or who has been following football for more then 3 weeks or so would be aware of this.

United are 2 points ahead of City. with 8 games to play and City have 7. Especially paying attention to the fact that both teams meet again in the league it is ludicrous to come to the conclusion that the league is not still in the balance.

no, 'in the balance' is something that is very tight and hard to call.

That's not the case. United are firmly in the driving seat and City are really up against it.

Only a 12 year old would think otherwise.

The_Kew_Tour · 02-04-2012 03:13PM

willmunny1990 wrote: »

and that is a very unlikely scenario but if that did happen then the title would be back in the balance. it'd be ok to say that then.

what's much more likely to happen is united winning their next two games and city dropping points at Arsenal.

city are playing ****e, have difficult fixtures and will probably be 5 points behind tonight.

United have much easier fixtures, have a probable 5 point lead and only a few games to go.

It's a long shot for City to win it. don't pretend otherwise. the title is most certainly not in the balance as things stand right now.

willmunny1990 wrote: »

I have been watching the football. City have been **** and are dropping points left right and centre, have tough games coming up and are probably going to be 5 points behind tonight. United have easier fixtures and will pick up more points.

i already explained this but used betting odds to further emphasise because the kew tour persisted with his 'in the balance' nonsense.

For a guy who thinks United have pretty much won the league I expect you to come up with a something bit more stronger then making your own assumption.

Assumption is the mother of all **** ups.

willmunny1990 · 02-04-2012 03:14PM

kryogen wrote: »

Em, because leagues are not won in a bookies?

Em, where did I say they were?

Bookies odds are mostly a good indicator of how likely something is to happen. I was just using odds to back up my opinion, not to form it ffs.

kryogen · 02-04-2012 03:16PM

willmunny1990 wrote: »

I have been watching the football. City have been **** and are dropping points left right and centre, have tough games coming up and are probably going to be 5 points behind tonight. United have easier fixtures and will pick up more points.

i already explained this but used betting odds to further emphasise because the kew tour persisted with his 'in the balance' nonsense.

Are you 22 as your username could suggest? if you are then surely you are very new to the sport?

willmunny1990 · 02-04-2012 03:16PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

For a guy who thinks United have pretty much won the league I expect you to come up with a something bit more stronger then making your own assumption.

Assumption is the mother of all **** ups.

lol

The league isn't 'in the balance'.

United are strong favorites. Just accept it, you should be happy.

willmunny1990 · 02-04-2012 03:19PM

kryogen wrote: »

Are you 22 as your username could suggest? if you are then surely you are very new to the sport?

What has age got to do with it?

I know its possible that City could still win it, i'm not saying united have already won it. upsets happen in football.

I'm just disputing that its still in the balance.

it's not. United are firm favorites.

I really don't see how people are struggling to get such a simple point.

kryogen · 02-04-2012 03:19PM

willmunny1990 wrote: »

no, 'in the balance' is something that is very tight and hard to call.

That's not the case. United are firmly in the driving seat and City are really up against it.

Only a 12 year old would think otherwise.

United being in the driving seat and City needing to play catch up does not mean it is not still in the balance. Your argument is ridiculous and and answering you further would only validate it in some strange way so...........

Enjoy thinking a 2 point gap is huge and best of luck with your future.

kryogen · 02-04-2012 03:21PM

It has just occured to me that he doesnt actually know what in the balance means, that must be it.

ShamoBuc · 02-04-2012 03:21PM

willmunny1990 wrote: »

What has age got to do with it?

I know its possible that City could still win it, i'm not saying united have already won it. upsets happen in football.

I'm just disputing that its still in the balance.

it's not. United are firm favorites.

I really don't see how people are struggling to get such a simple point.

Our poor form of late at least has moved Willy into this thread for a while...there's always a bright side to everything!

willmunny1990 · 02-04-2012 03:22PM

kryogen wrote: »

United being in the driving seat and City needing to play catch up does not mean it is not still in the balance. Your argument is ridiculous and and answering you further would only validate it in some strange way so...........

Enjoy thinking a 2 point gap is huge and best of luck with your future.

But its not just a two point gap is it?

it's a two point gap with a game and hand, the fixture list favors United and the momentum is with them while City are imploding.

In the balance my arse.

The_Kew_Tour · 02-04-2012 03:22PM

willmunny1990 wrote: »

lol

The league isn't 'in the balance'.

United are strong favorites. Just accept it, you should be happy.

Of course im happy, but will I be happy after tonight or at end of season? Sure your not even confident yourself and have said so and I highlighted both cases.

If only your theory was that simple, but im glad it's not, cause that's what football and sport should be about at times. The unpredictability of it all.

I thought Ireland were packing their bags to go home after 91 minutes against Germany, I thought Bayern had their 4th European Cup coming into injury time in CL final in 99. I thought we were home and dry winning the league in 94/95 and 97/98 seasons. Like I said I have seen and learned too much from previous seasons to think title is won and your theory does little to change my mind.

Of course I just hope this season there are none and it's a clear passage through to number 20.

IvySlayer · 02-04-2012 03:23PM

willmunny1990 wrote: »

I really don't see how people are struggling to get such a simple point.

*insert Liverpool joke here*

Leiva · 02-04-2012 03:24PM

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Our poor form of late at least has moved Willy into this thread for a while...there's always a bright side to everything!

Yeeeeaaaaa .

Someone else can suffer him for a while .

willmunny1990 · 02-04-2012 03:25PM

kryogen wrote: »

It has just occured to me that he doesnt actually know what in the balance means, that must be it.

roll out your definition for it then.

to me it would mean that both teams have a very similar chance and it's a very difficult call to make.

that's clearly not the case as United have the much better chance.

The_Kew_Tour · 02-04-2012 03:26PM

willmunny1990 wrote: »

But its not just a two point gap is it?

it's a two point gap with a game and hand, the fixture list favors United and the momentum is with them while City are imploding.

In the balance my arse.

How is coming back in 3 consecutive games imploding? Yes they should be winning the league, but even since January they still second highest points scorers in the PL.

Imploding?? it's far from it.

willmunny1990 · 02-04-2012 03:28PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Of course im happy, but will I be happy after tonight or at end of season? Sure your not even confident yourself and have said so and I highlighted both cases.

If only your theory was that simple, but im glad it's not, cause that's what football and sport should be about at times. The unpredictability of it all.

I thought Ireland were packing their bags to go home after 91 minutes against Germany, I thought Bayern had their 4th European Cup coming into injury time in CL final in 99. I thought we were home and dry winning the league in 94/95 and 97/98 seasons. Like I said I have seen and learned too much from previous seasons to think title is won and your theory does little to change my mind.

Of course I just hope this season there are none and it's a clear passage through to number 20.

I never once said upsets dont happen. Of course they do. City could still win the league but my whole point is that it's a long shot for them to do it as things stand, as you had suggested otherwise with your 'in the balance' statement.

willmunny1990 · 02-04-2012 03:31PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

How is coming back in 3 consecutive games imploding? Yes they should be winning the league, but even since January they still second highest points scorers in the PL.

Imploding?? it's far from it.

They have 5 points out of their last 4 games and are playing poorly. They were 3-1 down at home to Sunderland in the 85th min of a game, in a title run in. And now they have arsenal away.

If they have't technically imploded yet, they are sure as hell on the verge of it.

The_Kew_Tour · 02-04-2012 03:32PM

willmunny1990 wrote: »

I never once said upsets dont happen. Of course they do. City could still win the league but my whole point is that it's a long shot for them to do it as things stand as you suggested otherwise with your 'in the balance' statement.

"In the balance" statement.

Christ what have I done, but put 2 half pages of utter tripe on what "in the balance" is

I'm still waiting for you to back up your points though?

Or have you not got a clue what your talking about?

willmunny1990 · 02-04-2012 03:35PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

"In the balance" statement.

Christ what have I done, but put 2 half pages of utter tripe on what "in the balance" is

I'm still waiting for you to back up your points though?

Or have you not got a clue what your talking about?

WTF?

I've already backed up my points around 3 times at this stage.

City playing poorly, probably 5 points behind, fixture list favouring united as well as momentum being with them, and i even threw in the bookies odds to further emphasise.

Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12

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