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Yes Kenny Dalglish and Liverpool are done. MOD POST #425 *ALL READ*

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  • #32
    willmunny1990
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    mike65 wrote: »
    re Helix

    Oh Liverpool! I don't trust and have never trusted Xavi6, too often inferadig

    but you're whiter than white and never started a thread about another club I suppose?


  • #33
    eugeneious
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    iainmacintosh: If Tottenham get a point today. Liverpool will be as close to the relegation zone as they are a Champions League place. 14pts.

    Wow :eek: :pac:


  • #34
    niallo27
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    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Some very harsh criticisms - We all know if God's gift to football(Lucas) wasnt injured then Pool would be challenging for the league :rolleyes:

    You are slightly obsessed man it's not healthy, you had over 100 posts in the last thread.


  • #35
    Vudgie
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    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Some very harsh criticisms - We all know if God's gift to football(Lucas) wasnt injured then Pool would be challenging for the league :rolleyes:

    God how childish is this.

    I have no problem with these threads but they usually devolve into childish bashing rather than constructive discussion and there is therefore rarely any point.


  • #36
    invinciblePRSTV
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    mike65 wrote: »
    re Helix

    Oh Liverpool! I don't trust and have never trusted Xavi6, too often inferadig

    Aren't you a Wolves supporter? what do you care about what club a thread starter supports?


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  • #37
    counterlock
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    Lads, please try to keep it on topic or mods will close it again - which is probably the objective of some posters


  • #38
    mike65
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    willmunny1990 wrote: »
    but you're whiter than white and never started a thread about another club I suppose?

    Nope, the nearest as far as I can recall is "City & Utd Who will finish higher and why?" thread.


  • #39
    wonderfullife
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    Amazing how everyone who criticises liverpool is a wind-up-merchant!!! News flash - it's no "wind-up" you're hovering above mid table.


  • #40
    Xavi6
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    counterlock wrote: »
    Lads, please try to keep it on topic or mods will close it again - which is probably the objective of some posters

    Fair point.

    On topic, he as to go for the sake of Liverpool Football Club and the replacement has to be someone with no ties or previous affiliations. New man, clean slate, and get to work weeding out the rubbish.

    Dalglish is tarnishing his reputation while taking the club backwards in the league, cut him loose.


  • #41
    Fr Tod Umptious
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    Once they won the Carling Cup and got a place in Europe they had feck all left to play for.
    A CL spot was never realistic

    They are just winding down the league games, why anyone is taking any heed of their league performances I really don't know.


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  • #42
    Oranage2
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    niallo27 wrote: »
    You are slightly obsessed man it's not healthy, you had over 100 posts in the last thread.

    Doubt that TBH since I have 300 soccer forum posts total -

    But back on topic, Kenny just isnt a good enough manager and if a club spends 100+ million even a newly promoted team I'd expect some sort of top 4 challenge.


  • #43
    Vudgie
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    wonderfullife wrote: »
    Amazing how everyone who criticises liverpool is a wind-up-merchant!!! News flash - it's no "wind-up" you're hovering above mid table.

    There is no issue with criticism just have a look at the Liverpool thread and you will see plenty of it.

    News flash.


  • #44
    willmunny1990
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    mike65 wrote: »
    Nope, the nearest as far as I can recall is "City & Utd Who will finish higher and why?" thread.

    Just had a quick look at old threads you started in soccer.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=63570290

    How ironic you give out about a City fan starting a speculative thread on the Liverpool manager but you, a liverpool fan, started a speculative thread on the city manager at the time.

    Very hypocritical mike.


  • #45
    counterlock
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    I'd be curious to see who you guys think they will get in. I've never seen as much of Benitez as I have over the last two weeks and I don't think thats a coincidence.
    I don't think there is any chance for Ranieri but there are not many top level managers on the market at the moment.


  • #46
    token56
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    He probably should go. Liverpool have some pretty good players and the potential to do a lot better but it just doesn't seem to be working with Kenny. He doesn't seem the be getting the best out of the players he has and whether thats down to him or them isn't important. It is going to be much easier for the people at the top to get rid of Kenny than to get rid of a couple of players and let him try rebuild even further.

    Like someone else has said, someone fresh, who has had no previous affiliation with the club would probably have the best chance of getting the most out of the squad. Someone like AVB would actually be great I think but I'm not sure he would be keen to come back to England any time soon.


  • #47
    Xavi6
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    willmunny1990 wrote: »
    Just had a quick look at old threads you started in soccer.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=63570290

    How ironic you give out about a City fan starting a speculative thread on the Liverpool manager but you, a liverpool fan, started a speculative thread on the city manager at the time.

    Very hypocritical mike.

    I now no longer trust mike


  • #48
    monkey9
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    Helix wrote: »
    you wish it was your club bottling the league im sure

    i know i wish mine was

    Wish?? We've been bottling the league all season. Not bad in the cups though.


  • #49
    That_Guy
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    Some Liverpool fans getting rather touchy I see.

    He has to go. Maybe not now but at the end of the season. He's spent a lot of money on players that are not performing to the standards that the owners would really like.

    The players he's bought: Enrique, Henderson, Downing (an exception), Adam are enjoying their highest league position in the Premier League. They might be able to deem that as a success for themselves as players but as a club they're nowhere near as high as they should be.

    He's spent horrendously, his tactics are shocking and his media bites are just cringeworthy week in and week out.

    If I was the owners having forked over a good chunk of money I'd be expecting a return. A Carling Cup ahead of a top 4 finish is not a successful season for a club as supposedly as ambitious as Liverpool.

    I see Liverpool fans mentioning players they'd like but do you think he'll be given a shed load of money to bring them in after awful transfer after awful transfer?

    Kenny was the man to steady the ship after the new owners left and Hodgson was sacked but I don't think he's the man for the future. Yes, he's got history there but sometimes you have to think past history and look forward to the future because at the moment, it's a very bleak one.


  • #50
    Oranage2
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    The club needs somebody that will steady the ship, the only manager that has world class European experience but yet known for his organisation is Roy Hodgson.


  • #51
    OldmanMondeo
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    plasmaguy wrote: »
    New manager will be faced with same problems...they can't score and they can't defend.

    Only party right, think we're third behind the Manchester team for conceeding, but yip, couldn't score in a free night at a brothel.


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  • #52
    SirDelboy18
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    Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »
    Once they won the Carling Cup and got a place in Europe they had feck all left to play for.
    A CL spot was never realistic

    They are just winding down the league games, why anyone is taking any heed of their league performances I really don't know.

    Are you serious?

    Why is anyone taking heed of their league performances? I'd step back for a second and realise the complete lunacy of that question.

    A CL spot was never realistic you say? Well everybody from the owners, the manager and the players made clear the clubs main ambition this year was for CL football.


  • #53
    Fuhrer
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    Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »
    Once they won the Carling Cup and got a place in Europe they had feck all left to play for.
    A CL spot was never realistic

    They are just winding down the league games, why anyone is taking any heed of their league performances I really don't know.


    So, Liverpools ambitions this season after spending 100 million on new players was the same as Birminghams last season?


  • #54
    quarryman
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    Waiting for Mr Alan to arrive and tell us again how Dalglish is definitely the right man for the job.


  • #55
    amacachi
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    I just can't see why they gave him another season. He did what was needed last year, got the dressing room on his side and ended up with a respectable league finish, that should've been the end of it.

    More importantly though, whoever dreamt up the transfer policy etc. needs to be gone from the club. Net spend doesn't explain the quality of signings that have been made. There's also been a suggestion that the signing of Carroll was done because it was the last signing that could be made that wouldn't count under FFP. It's no justification. Why not just throw a few million on a fire, sure it wouldn't have made a dent in FFP(!)


  • #56
    That_Guy
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    amacachi wrote: »
    I just can't see why they gave him another season. He did what was needed last year, got the dressing room on his side and ended up with a respectable league finish, that should've been the end of it.

    More importantly though, whoever dreamt up the transfer policy etc. needs to be gone from the club. Net spend doesn't explain the quality of signings that have been made. There's also been a suggestion that the signing of Carroll was done because it was the last signing that could be made that wouldn't count under FFP. It's no justification. Why not just throw a few million on a fire, sure it wouldn't have made a dent in FFP(!)

    They won't like that. :D


  • #57
    token56
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    OldmanMondeo wrote: »
    Only party right, think we're third behind the Manchester team for conceeding, but yip, couldn't score in a free night at a brothel.

    But they have at least one player who should be scoring, Suarez. When you consider his goal to game ratio for Ajax before he went to liverpool it was excellent. But its dropped significantly, from about 3 goals every 4 games to 1 every 3 games approximately. Whatever system they are playing should be suited to him as he is an excellent player despite how much I dislike him as a person.

    Apart from Suarez though they lack strength in depth for goal scorers certainly. Carroll just is not performing and there is no other obvious player who you would see as a consistent goal threat. Whoever is in charge during the summer certainly needs to address that area for them.


  • #58
    RandolphEsq
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    Absolutely no attack through the middle of the pitch. Everything goes to the wings then gets crossed. The centre-mids pass the ball to the wings then run into the box and that's the extent of Liverpool's attack.

    Considering the amount of money the manager has spent he has serious questions to answer. I'm all for sticking with a manager but Dalglish has had a massive war chest from which to arm the squad and despite splurging there ain't a whole lot of results to back it up. Endure for the rest of the season though, see if there is something to build on for next season.


  • #59
    monkey9
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    quarryman wrote: »
    Waiting for Mr Alan to arrive and tell us again how Dalglish is definitely the right man for the job.

    I think you'll find that Mr Alan told you's Rafa Benitez was the right man for the job. Yet Man U fans informed him that Rafa was a joke, doing a sh!t job but that you's all hoped he stayed on because he was so bad.

    Unfortunately for you's, Rafa left. And look how Liverpool have flourished!!


  • #60
    SirDelboy18
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    token56 wrote: »
    When you consider his goal to game ratio for Ajax before he went to liverpool it was excellent. But its dropped significantly, from about 3 goals every 4 games to 1 every 3 games approximately.

    Anybody can score in Holland. Kezman, Afonso Alves.


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  • #61
    amacachi
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    That_Guy wrote: »
    They won't like that. :D

    What are ya on about? There's nothing they like talking about more. :pac:


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