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Bertie Ahern statement/resignation

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    Depeche Mode performed a song titled "Just can't get enough" many years ago.

    I'm always reminded of it when I see FF hurting, good riddance to you shower of traitors. Looking forward to the extinction of that party.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,270 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Good move for him and FF, suits them both, no need to divide the party to push him when hes already jumped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,222 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    charlemont wrote: »
    It won't happen, I'd be almost full sure that Bertie would have lots of dirt on the Gardaí. So they won't touch him.

    Typical of you. Get your wee sneaky digs in.
    What were you caught for anyway ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    hondasam wrote: »
    It's typical of Bertie to jump before he is pushed. I know the pension is a small thing but I don't think he should still get it. I agree there are plenty more like him in FF and FG.

    His state funeral perk should be removed from him too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 Billyslaparse


    hondasam wrote: »
    ''Former Taoiseach Bertie Ahern has announced that he is resigning from Fianna Fáil - just days before the party's National Executive meets to consider expelling him.''

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0324/mahon.html

    Good riddance.

    Like the prisoner that kills himself in his cell the night before he's due to be hanged. Slithery dirty rat bast*ard is all he is


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Phill Ewinn


    They should disband or departy or whatevr you call it. Disarm the chancers, lay down their charms, hang up their bribes and surrender their assets to CAB.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Mr.Biscuits


    If a man jumps from a cliff after being warned that if he doesn't, he will be pushed - has he really chosen to jump?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    What will happen to his St.Lukes office? Will he get to keep it or will it be taken from him?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    charlemont wrote: »
    It won't happen, I'd be almost full sure that Bertie would have lots of dirt on the Gardaí.

    I hope that isn't suggesting that Garda dirt is more acceptable than politician's dirt? :eek:

    After FF, the political Establishment, the 'Golden Circle', the Catholic Church, the bankers - all found out but rarely punished - we must out one of the key pillars and facilitators crime and corruption.

    The key to the Establishment's impunity down the years is the Garda.

    Interwoven into the very fabric of the corrupt culture of the Establishment of the Southern State.

    So far - the untouchables.

    Let's start touching them :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    patwicklow wrote: »
    Hes just jumped again so sly..

    Saving his penson.

    :mad:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    irish-stew wrote: »
    Saving his penson.

    :mad:

    If he was expelled would his pension have been removed from him?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    hondasam wrote: »
    He will not get that now, will he?

    I hope not.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    ilovesleep wrote: »
    I hope not.

    Hardly matters - he has a millionaire daughter and another married to a millionaire pop person.

    He won't starve.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Prime time to reform FF and do this country right, the twinkly eye'd bull****ing blueshirt time is up. WE'RE BACK!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    ilovesleep wrote: »
    If he was expelled would his pension have been removed from him?

    Could be wrong, but anyone I asked said it would.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,535 ✭✭✭Radharc na Sleibhte


    I hope karma exists, I really, really do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    Wild Bill wrote: »
    Hardly matters - he has a millionaire daughter and another married to a millionaire pop person.

    He won't starve.

    Hondasam and I were talking about his state funeral. Off course he's not going to starve when's dead - he'll be dead. He has millionaire daughters. Let them pay for his funeral. Giving that man a state funeral will be giving him too much respect and not only that it will be state funded.

    He was in a position to care for this country and all he did was care for his pockets and his mates pockets while sending this country into penury. When he kicks the bucket I do not want him to further drain from us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    ilovesleep wrote: »
    If he was expelled would his pension have been removed from him?
    No, his pension is due to his time in office, not due to his party affiliation. FF don't pay for his pension or anyone's pension. If they had to the party would be bankrupt in a matter of weeks. And if you think he has to depend on his family you're very much mistaken.

    Wretch, may he die roaring for a priest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 194 ✭✭jased10s


    He stresses that this is a political decision, and not in any way an admission of wrongdoing.
    LOLZ

    Vindicate his good name !

    DOUBLE LOLZ

    have i just walked in to a diseny novel ?

    and the fupper still gets his pension paid by us , what a country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    Both himself and the drunk Cowen are costing you the taxpayer over €150,000 a year in pensions:

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/1110/1224307311467.html

    I'm not sure whether he's still drawing a salary or expenses for any other government positions as well, almost certainly. His garda escort isn't free.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Wild Bill


    ilovesleep wrote: »

    He was in a position to care for this country and all he did was care for his pockets and his mates pockets while sending this country into penury. When he kicks the bucket I do not want him to further drain from us.


    Don't disagree. But it applies to most Southern politicians for the past 40 years.

    And the evil still goes on...as we speak...under the name of Enda/Gilmore.

    That's actually more serious - because it's current - Bertie is history. :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭Popeleo


    ilovesleep wrote: »
    His state funeral perk should be removed from him too.

    On the contrary. He should definitely receive it...

    ..once it happens this year.We can make it happen.
    I'm sure we could tack on a question to one of the upcoming referenda to make it quasi-legitimate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    irish-stew wrote: »
    Could be wrong, but anyone I asked said it would.

    His pension is given by the Dail not his party so whoever you are asking doesnt know what they are talking about. Him being expelled from the party will actually have no bearing on anything whatsoever except he wont be getting invited to the Ard Fheis etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭rock chic


    kryogen wrote: »
    I can't help liking Bertie tbh.

    Nice chap, very good with people, far more charismatic and likable then most eejit Irish politicians.

    The Tribunal didn't even call him a liar in the legal sense of the word, there is a difference between that and not accepting his account. Also, is there not more important things to be focusing on now at this time? Making him a scapegoat is fun and all that, but the system that he was part of is and was the problem, whatever he did or didn't do you can bet he was not alone.

    Thanks for the great work on the Good Friday Agreement (among other things)Bertie, especially the dedication shown after the passing of your mother. People are very rarely black and white, and while I don't believe he is a saint, I won't demonising him either. Not the worst by a long shot.

    another troll i see:mad:


  • Site Banned Posts: 104 ✭✭Readyhed


    He should have let the FF party expel him. Might have got a standing ovation as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Popeleo wrote: »
    On the contrary. He should definitely receive it...

    ..once it happens this year.We can make it happen.
    I'm sure we could tack on a question to one of the upcoming referenda to make it quasi-legitimate.

    So you are advocating murdering him?

    Great, you must be a sound lad altogether eh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    kryogen wrote: »
    So you are advocating murdering him?

    Great, you must be a sound lad altogether eh

    Well maybe he is, as you said Bertie is a nice chap, and he advocated people killing themselves, which is kind of similar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    rock chic wrote: »
    another troll i see:mad:

    Makes you mad when peoples opinions differ from your own? Internet may not be for you love.

    Also, personal abuse is never a good place to start when trying to take a moral high ground.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    kryogen wrote: »
    So you are advocating murdering him?

    Great, you must be a sound lad altogether eh

    His should take his own advice of suicide.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Well maybe he is, as you said Bertie is a great guy, and he advocated people killing themselves, which is kind of similar.


    Ah see now your just making stuff up, no politician would ever advocate people killing themselves, poor show.


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