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We should hang our heads in shame.

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  • #32
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Among those of us not bothering to do anything is you OP. Always has to be everyone else doesn't it?


  • #33
    cloptrop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭cloptrop


    Just scanned over the thread op , what if I said Connolly and Pearse got what they wanted and it didnt work out?
    Just thought Id throw that out there and see how you felt about it,


  • #34
    policarp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,680 ✭✭✭policarp


    cloptrop wrote: »
    Just scanned over the thread op , what if I said Connolly and Pearse got what they wanted and it didnt work out?
    Just thought Id throw that out there and see how you felt about it,

    We would be speaking Gaelge with a scots accent. . .


  • #35
    KyussBishop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭KyussBishop


    This is a (really good) post on a US-centric blog, regarding our economy:
    http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/03/philip-pilkington-the-irish-begin-to-wake-up-to-the-fact-that-they-are-repaying-money-that-is-then-burned.html

    We don't have that kind of informative stuff published here as far as I can tell; I learn more about our own economy from US-centric sources than I do from anything published in Ireland.


  • #36
    cloptrop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭cloptrop


    KyussBishop wrote: »
    This is a (really good) post on a US-centric blog, regarding our economy:
    http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/03/philip-pilkington-the-irish-begin-to-wake-up-to-the-fact-that-they-are-repaying-money-that-is-then-burned.html

    We don't have that kind of informative stuff published here as far as I can tell; I learn more about our own economy from US-centric sources than I do from anything published in Ireland.

    Calling this groundbreaking journalism shows your knowledge of economics, and your willing to believe anything that is printed ,


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  • #37
    JupiterKid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,963 ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Well, you may not have agreed with the occupy Dame St protest - and I didn't fully agree with their tactics - but at least they were trying to do something in terms of making a statement.

    One of the reasons IMO why there hasn't been a mass uprising of anger yet is that the country is in such deep, deep, deep dogsh*t that most people don't even know where to start. There was another thread on AH comparing this recession to the one of the 1980s and most opined that things now weren't as bad as the 80s. But Ireland are still only at the beginning of its own "lost decade."

    Give it time.


  • #38
    KyussBishop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭KyussBishop


    cloptrop wrote: »
    Calling this groundbreaking journalism shows your knowledge of economics, and your willing to believe anything that is printed ,
    If you've got something other than ad-hominem against it me, I'm all ears (though it's not quite on-topic for this thread).

    It attempts some kind of informative analysis where much of media here regurgitates press releases or provides fairly tame reporting on subjects, with little investigate journalism or critical analysis.


  • #39
    The Scientician
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭The Scientician


    Thought this was about the Brendan O'Connor Show the other night.


  • #40
    StupidLikeAFox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,915 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    Biggins wrote: »
    Speak for yourself please!
    I put my money where my mouth is and protest in what ever way I can!
    For example: www.unitedpeople.ie (my form of protest - amid many)

    Im not sure if you plagiarised them, or they plagiarised you, but your homepage contains the exact same list as one on the Fianna Fail website

    http://www.fiannafail.ie/page/-/files/Ogra/U-Turn%20List.pdf


  • #41
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    I didn't realise that French and German speculators were responsible for Irish property developers (of which half the country thought they were) creating the mother of all property bubbles, or an incompetent government fueling the bubble so they could milk the tax benefits and remain in power and continue lining their own pockets.


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  • #42
    Gummy Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    I didn't realise that French and German speculators were responsible for Irish property developers (of which half the country thought they were) creating the mother of all property bubbles, or an incompetent government fueling the bubble so they could milk the tax benefits and remain in power and continue lining their own pockets.

    Sure didn't you know, the French and Germans built Priority Hall. It's cause of them the residents are going to have to declare bankruptcy


  • #43
    Eve_Dublin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    Ehhh...I won't hang my head in shame, thanks. I haven't done anything wrong.


  • #44
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Eve_Dublin wrote: »
    Ehhh...I won't hang my head in shame, thanks. I haven't done anything wrong.
    Yep, gotta love the staggering lack of self awareness of these threads. OP are you hanging your head in shame or blaming everyone else while remaining smug and somehow blameless yourself? The "we" sh1t tends not to apply to those who are such fans of using it.
    Oh and start a protest there since you're so angered by the lack of same. But you won't.

    I reckon the reason there aren't protests is: people waiting for others to do so. Plus, people not actually being in that horrific a situation. Things are bad, but generally not bad enough to drive people to the streets, just to whinge at their laptops and Macs. Yep, life's tough for them.


  • #45
    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    California Man wrote: »
    and not a single protest..
    We should hang our heads in shame.

    Social media nowadays OP, never been easier to arrange events

    You want leadership?
    How about you step up and be leader and organize this protest

    ....or else moan on boards that the rest of us are not doing enough

    You want something OP, it's up to you to go for it :cool:


  • #46
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    ColHol wrote: »
    Im not sure if you plagiarised them, or they plagiarised you, but your homepage contains the exact same list as one on the Fianna Fail website

    http://www.fiannafail.ie/page/-/files/Ogra/U-Turn%20List.pdf

    They copied mine!
    They didn't even bother to update the grammar errors!
    I don't think they will be coping this other page soon though! Lest we forget!: http://unitedpeople.ie/fail.html


  • #47
    Milk & Honey
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭Milk & Honey


    California Man wrote: »
    Only four years before The Easter Rising anniversary, and here we are after losing our economic sovereignty, and not a single protest..

    There is an anniversary of the Easter rising this year, there will be one next year and the year after. Where does this four years before the anniversary come from?


  • #48
    fedor.2.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    Milk & Honey wrote: »
    There is an anniversary of the Easter rising this year, there will be one next year and the year after. Where does this four years before the anniversary come from?

    100 years like:rolleyes:


  • #49
    _Gawd_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 410 ✭✭_Gawd_


    The reason people are not up in arms is because they still have access to their dole money. Once that tries up, there will be chaos. Nobody in this country has any principles nor do they care about how the economy works - all they want to know is if their freebies will still be coming so that they can buy their pack of ciggies and 6 Dutch Gold.


  • #50
    fedor.2.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    _Gawd_ wrote: »
    The reason people are not up in arms is because they still have access to their dole money. Once that tries up, there will be chaos. Nobody in this country has any principles nor do they care about how the economy works - all they want to know is if their freebies will still be coming so that they can buy their pack of ciggies and 6 Dutch Gold.


    I can tell you have put an awful amount of thought in to this


  • #51
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,909 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    darlett wrote: »
    Indeed, numb me and dumb me, but Occupy Dame Street wasnt exactly a protest against the situation of this country.

    No that's exactly what it was.

    This thread makes me laugh.

    Rabble: There are no protests!
    Voice of reason: Actually there are, you just haven't joined them.
    Rabble: No there weren't.
    VoR: Gives example.
    Rabble: That was a stupid protest, it wouldn't achieve anything, it was only a few eejits, it wasn't even protesting the exact thing it was protesting because I didn't like it.

    For crying out loud, of course a protest will be ineffectual if people don't get off their ar$es and support it. And there have been a whole load of protests over the last few years. Every few months in fact and organised by completely different groups, so it isn't as if people aren't actually spoilt for choice when it comes to deciding who to take action with. Don't want to protest with unions, hippies, the SWP? No problem, even the some of the smartest economics geeks* in the country have organised protests like thepropertypin protest against NAMA when it was first mooted. But most people prefer to whine nonsensically.


    *I say geeks with affection.


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  • #52
    Immaculate Pasta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭Immaculate Pasta


    I'll protest OP but only if I can wear my muddy Wellington boots while doing it :cool:


  • #53
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    _Gawd_ wrote: »
    The reason people are not up in arms is because they still have access to their dole money. Once that tries up, there will be chaos. Nobody in this country has any principles nor do they care about how the economy works - all they want to know is if their freebies will still be coming so that they can buy their pack of ciggies and 6 Dutch Gold.
    O' yes, sure everyone on the dole is like that of course!

    What utter stupidity!


  • #54
    Show Time
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭Show Time


    California Man wrote: »
    Only four years before The Easter Rising anniversary, and here we are after losing our economic sovereignty, and not a single protest..

    Our Prime Minister keeps saying "We will pay our way". But it's not our debt Enda; it's the debt of speculators and gamblers that took massive positions that failed. German and French bond holders etc.

    So we just sit here and moan, do sweet feck all about it. The Frech would be up in arms. Our grandchildren will still be paying off this unsustainable debt for years to come.

    James Connelly and Padraig Pearce would be turning in their graves. I'm really not sure many here understand that thousands of Irish men and women lost their lives for the freedom and independence of Ireland. The cosy world we live in today, and it's hard to imagine, I guess.

    A leading executive in Goldman Sachs resigned this week saying the firm is as toxic and destuctive as ever. A pure shame the way the world is heading. And this week, we learn, the CEO of Bank of Ireland Richie Boucher, was paid €623k last year. Boucher was a senior member of the bank during the boom years, so is partly responsible for the mess. Yet no protests this week.

    At least in Iceland the trial of former Icelandic Prime Minister, Geir Haarde, has now begun, on charges of negligence over the 2008 financial crisis.

    Do you think Bertie Ahern would ever face trail? Not a chance..

    We should hang our heads in shame.
    Easter Rising was a failure kid. It was hard working Corkmen who booted the English out a few years later so they are the folks turning in their graves now.


  • #55
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Show Time wrote: »
    Easter Rising was a failure kid. It was hard working Corkmen who booted the English out a few years later so they are the folks turning in their graves now.
    and we all know how well off ireland was after the English..


  • #56
    Milk & Honey
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭Milk & Honey


    fedor.2. wrote: »
    100 years like:rolleyes:

    100 years is a centenary.


  • #57
    opinion guy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,000 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    Biggins wrote: »
    They copied mine!
    They didn't even bother to update the grammar errors!
    I don't think they will be coping this other page soon though! Lest we forget!: http://unitedpeople.ie/fail.html

    dude if they just flatout copied yours and you can prove it take a copyright infringment case against them (hell use the new Irish SOPA law against them :P)

    Show them up for the disreputable feckers they are, get one up one them, publicity for your party - win win all round :D


  • #58
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Johro wrote: »
    Yeah coz none of us are keyboard warriors :rolleyes:

    You can do a lot of work with a keyboard. The power of the written word is strong, but only if it's used in the right way.

    Unlike this thread and all the other threads of the same ilk. All they succeed in doing is fuck all - they are utterly pointless vents of anger & point the finger at someone else.

    They are as much a part of the problem as the problem itself.


  • #59
    saa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭saa


    California Man wrote: »
    Only four years before The Easter Rising anniversary, and here we are after losing our economic sovereignty, and not a single protest..

    Our Prime Minister keeps saying "We will pay our way". But it's not our debt Enda; it's the debt of speculators and gamblers that took massive positions that failed. German and French bond holders etc.

    So we just sit here and moan, do sweet feck all about it. The Frech would be up in arms. Our grandchildren will still be paying off this unsustainable debt for years to come.

    James Connelly and Padraig Pearce would be turning in their graves. I'm really not sure many here understand that thousands of Irish men and women lost their lives for the freedom and independence of Ireland. The cosy world we live in today, and it's hard to imagine, I guess.

    A leading executive in Goldman Sachs resigned this week saying the firm is as toxic and destuctive as ever. A pure shame the way the world is heading. And this week, we learn, the CEO of Bank of Ireland Richie Boucher, was paid €623k last year. Boucher was a senior member of the bank during the boom years, so is partly responsible for the mess. Yet no protests this week.

    At least in Iceland the trial of former Icelandic Prime Minister, Geir Haarde, has now begun, on charges of negligence over the 2008 financial crisis.

    Do you think Bertie Ahern would ever face trail? Not a chance..

    We should hang our heads in shame.

    .........so you're still an American who's just come over here for a holiday, God bless your little online warrior heart.


  • #60
    Fighting Irish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,062 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    meh


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  • #61
    Born to Die
    Closed Accounts Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Born to Die


    ColeTrain wrote: »


    What about him? Or have you pulled the OP up on a single letter..


    Yes CokeTrain, I was referring to the single letter.


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