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Formula 1: Round 01 - Australian GP

  • 12-03-2012 7:50pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,444 ✭✭✭


    It's that time of year again so lets get the opening race thread of the season online!
    So many unknowns ahead of Australian GP
    The Formula 1 winter seems to get shorter every year and after 110 days Melbourne will write the latest chapter in the sport’s history.

    Testing has been dominated by the speed of Red Bull and McLaren, the struggles of Ferrari, the re-emergence of Mercedes and Lotus and with the midfield battle looking incredibly competitive.

    But as has been said many times testing is one thing and racing quite another. The questions have been asked throughout the winter but now, for the first time, we start to get some answers. It’s time for the BS to stop…and for the five red lights to go out!
    Albert Park Circuit
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    Melbourne has played host to Formula 1 since ’96 but it’s hard to remember a season opener with such a sense of expectation as this one.

    Last year showed the positive effects that Pirelli tyres and DRS could have on racing but after Sebastian Vettel dominated the championship proceedings many fans were left disappointed by the year.

    The coming year has the prospect of top class racing and the hope of a titanic championship battle similar to 2010 where four drivers went into the final race of the season in championship contention.

    It is probably too much to expect to have four drivers entering the Brazilian GP in contention but the possibility of a strong season of close racing is very real.

    Melbourne is a street circuit that offers a tremendous challenge for teams and drivers. The track evolves throughout the weekend with more and more rubber being put down on the surface. When you combine this factor with autumnal weather there is a prospect of cold weather and low temperatures offering an even greater challenge to the field.

    First lap incidents have been common place in Melbourne with turn one having seen its share of accidents with the most spectacular arguably the 2002 clash between Ralf Schumacher and Rubens Barrichello.

    The opening chicane is a hotbed for incident because it is quite fast and open on the way in before narrowing sharply at the apex. Once through it the field powers towards turn three, another corner with a history of accidents.
    In the inaugural Melbourne Grand Prix Martin Brundle barrel rolled through the gravel trap after crashing into David Coulthard as the Scotsman looked to avoid another incident. With two DRS zones this year turn three is expected to offer a key overtaking chance in Melbourne.

    The middle sector of the lap is dominated by the super fast turn 11 and 12 chicane. Drivers approach here at top speed before briefly dabbing the brakes to scrub off some speed before attacking the opening left hander which feeds directly into 12. Once through the chicane drivers reach top speed before the last overtaking opportunity of the lap.

    What to expect in Melbourne


    As with any opening race of the year it is difficult to know exactly what to expect. The expectation is that Red Bull and Vettel will continue to lead the way but there is no guarantee that is actually the case.

    McLaren are very confident that they have found the pace over the winter to challenge the favourites in what should be a very competitive race with Martin Whitmarsh saying:

    “Our sense it that we are competitive. The car seems quite reliable, the drivers like it and they seem to be quite buoyant,” said the Englishman. "We always say it at this at this time of year, but fuel loads, tyre programmes and test programmes interfere with the ability of the teams to judge performance. Race simulations and longer runs give a better indication though of where teams are at than headline lap times, and based upon that we feel that we are competitive."

    In the Red Bull garage a similar refrain was rung out by Vettel with the reigning champion saying:

    "Testing has been busy over the last few weeks and I think we have made a decent step with the car. You never really know where you are until we get to Melbourne and even then you don't really see what everyone has got until qualifying - so I'm looking forward to getting started. Australia and Malaysia are different circuits so they are hard to compare. Australia is not a permanent race track, it's quite bumpy and it's tough for the car. Malaysia is smoother, as it's a permanent race track with fast corners, but both are good tracks and Australia is one of the best places we go to.”

    The intra team rivalry in Red Bull and McLaren is sure to be one of the talking points this weekend with Mark Webber and Lewis Hamilton keen to exercise the demons after disappointing campaigns last year.

    For Webber the hope is that a full season of using the Pirelli tyres will give him the confidence to push harder and challenge Vettel. Hamilton will be looking to eradicate the mistakes that marred last season.

    Numerous clashes on track and an apparent lack of focus cost him dearly and McLaren clearly now view Jenson Button as the focal point of the team. For a driver of Hamilton’s ability and credentials it is likely that the 2008 champion will take that as an affront to his ability but now is the time for him to answer his critics with a strong opening race.

    It is worth noting that both Webber and Hamilton came close to winning the title in 2010 and as a result a loss of focus and a disappointing year is not too unfamiliar for drivers coming off such a close call. The true test for both is now how they react to having been outclassed by their teammates last year.
    This weekend’s race is one in which Webber has never had good fortune, his best finish is fifth last year, but the Australian is looking for some luck from his home crowd:

    “It's great to see the support and Australian flags in the crowd,” said the 35 year old Aussie. “I've incorporated more of an Australian theme into my helmet, which I'll be using for the whole year, not just in Australia.”

    It’s likely to take more than a new helmet to give Webber the edge over Vettel but this weekend’s qualifying session and race will be crucial in his bid to unsettle his teammate.

    Behind Red Bull and McLaren the battle looks set to rage between Ferrari, Mercedes and Lotus as they fight for the tag as “best of the rest.” Even though Ferrari has struggled in testing it is likely that with Alonso at the wheel the Scuderia will still be able to fight for a top six finish. It is hardly what Alonso expected in his third year with the team but if he is to have a chance of winning a third title he needs to stem the bleeding in the early stages of the season.

    At Mercedes Michael Schumacher seemed confident of a strong weekend even though the seven times champion refused to reveal too much ahead of the opening race:

    “During winter testing, we completed lots of miles and built up a really complete set of data, which should put us in a good position for the first race and to develop the car even further in the right direction. We're ready for the 2012 season to begin..."

    Testing has indicated the gap between the leading teams and the midfield has been reduced and there is therefore great hope for the majority of mid pack runners. At no team is there a greater sense of pressure and urgency for success than at Williams.

    The team has suffered through a severe lack of funding in recent years and after a technical overhaul appears ready to finally make a move towards respectability once again.

    For Bruno Senna this is a very important season. The Brazilian came into the sport racing for HRT and never really had the chance to perform at his best in a terrible car. Last year he showed promise for Renault but with only the last third of the season in the car it was hard to judge him.

    Now for the first time he will have a full winter testing schedule behind him and the Brazilian can’t wait for the season to finally get underway:

    “I am really looking forward to going to Australia,” commented Senna. “About a month after the last race of the season you are itching to get back racing, so four months later I really can’t wait to get started. Getting into the car on Friday will be very exciting, and I hope we can be competitive from the very beginning. Pre-season testing was promising, but you never know exactly what everyone is doing. It is certainly very close, so it is going to be very tight this year.”

    At the back of the field Caterham have made progress but are still lacking pace. They have however, once again, outshone their fellow back markers. Marussia and HRT have not turned a wheel in anger yet this year and both teams have only shaken down their entrants for the new season. Just making the grid will be viewed as a successful weekend.

    Setup and technical challenges


    When asked about the challenges facing teams this weekend Mark Smith, Caterham technical director, said:

    "The Melbourne event poses the usual challenges of a race held on a circuit using public roads which are used once a year for the Grand Prix. This means that the circuit grip evolves significantly throughout the weekend and can therefore make it tricky to target the optimum balance in advance of the race. The tyres being used this year are the soft and medium compounds which we gained some useful insights into during pre-season testing, albeit in very different conditions on a different type of circuit. The ambient temperature in Melbourne can be expected to be somewhere between the high teens and the low twenties, so not that far off what we saw in Spain in February, but the nature of the circuit is different and places reasonably high demands on the brakes and consequently on entry stability. Equally, maximising traction out of the lower speed corners is generally an area of focus. Whilst the cars will have a high average speed at this circuit the aero setup will still be relatively high downforce. Overtaking here is difficult so KERS and DRS will be valuable tools.”

    F1 will revolve around Pirelli tyres once again in 2012


    Pirelli tyres dominated proceedings last year and it looks as if little will change in the coming season.

    The Italian manufacturer will take soft and medium compound rubber to Australia. It is likely that Sunday’s race will see two stops for most of the drivers. Melbourne is a track that places a huge strain on the rear tyres and tyre wear is sure to be a key factor in this weekend’s race. With a two stop strategy expected to be the norm it is worth noting that each stop will take in the region of 23 seconds.

    Paul Hembery, Pirelli’s motorsport directory, is looking forward to the new season:

    “We’re delighted to be starting our second season of Formula One, with a completely new range of tyres. The P Zero Yellow soft and the P Zero White medium have been nominated for Australia which each have a completely new profile and compound. Last year, the P Zero Yellow tyre set the fastest-ever lap of Albert Park, but coming at the start of the year this is always one of the most unpredictable races of the season. Being a semi-permanent facility, we would expect the track to evolve considerably as the weekend goes on.”

    Weekend’s weather in Australia


    The weather looks to be unsettled in Melbourne this weekend with rain expected to affect proceedings at some point over the course of the action. Temperatures will be in the range of 15-20C and with Melbourne historically hotter than this it will be very interesting to see if drivers can get heat into their tyres quickly.

    Sky Schedule
    Friday 16 March
    First practice: 1am
    Second practice: 5.15am
    Saturday 17 March
    Third practice: 2.45am
    Qualifying: 5am
    Sunday 18 March
    Grand Prix: 4.30am


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Early retirement for Vettel to get the season off to a good start please. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,964 ✭✭✭Sitec


    Please Please Please let this season be exciting and close!

    It will be interesting to see who's quick as many teams have gone different routes with exhaust, front wing and nose set-ups. The qualifying will be exciting I'd say.

    Anyway, I threw 10e down on Button @ 6/1 just for the craic.

    Hopefully RedBull won't be as dominant this season.

    Wooooo I cant wait for the weekend!!:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭SilverScreen


    Anything can happen during the first race of the season so I can't wait for this. I'd love to see McLaren fight it out neck and neck with Red Bull this season, and maybe see Hamilton stop Vettel from getting his third title in a row. Have to wait and see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭Grim.


    anyone but hamilton


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭losthorizon


    Great stuff

    Remember the hour goes forward next weekend!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    Great stuff

    Remember the hour goes forward next weekend!

    It's the weekend after,24th/25th.

    Go on Schumi,expecting much more from the Merc this year. Above all else i hope for exciting racing. As much as i admire RB and like Vettel,i don't want to see them leaving everyone behind from the get go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,262 ✭✭✭✭Autosport


    I really hope this season isnt as predictable as last years, and I am so excited I missed my racing wkends ,Bring on Australia :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,494 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    so nothing live on a channel i can get until china wont bother then
    F1 loses a viewer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭slavetothegrind


    if webber has a bad start i'll flip out altogether, still haven't heard a good explaination for last seasons starts!

    Sky coverage looking good!

    Hope Sherlock isn't on here LIGHTNING :p


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    There was a rumour that Sky would do pay per view online streaming for non-customers, i.e. you sign up to their site, pay a few quid and you can stream the event. But it doesn't seem to have materialised yet, so I guess I'll have to <Sherlock> it from one of the live <Sherlock>ing sites, or possibly <Sherlock> it afterwards from The<Sherlock>Bay.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    Cough Cough streaming.............who said that.......

    I have a great stream if anyone is interested

    Its here and with luck should still be there for the weekend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭smellslikeshoes


    The last few weeks have flew by, can't fecking wait for this. Schumacher for the podium!
    Ficus wrote: »
    I hate having to say this but ANYONE linking to streams on here will be on the recieving end of a permant ban.
    As stevenmu said above, you can thank Mr. Sherlock for this.

    Without wanting to take thread offtopic too much, what's the situation with say someone requesting to be pmed a link? Or is that a stupid question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    Oiiiii there was nothing wrong with that stream:eek::eek::eek::eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 464 ✭✭PJTierney


    Given that it's on at Stupid O' Clock in the morning, what time is BBC's 90 minute highlights package running at? I wouldn't mind blocking myself from the internet to watch that at a reasonable hour (that and I don't have Sky).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Without wanting to take thread offtopic too much, what's the situation with say someone requesting to be pmed a link? Or is that a stupid question.

    A PM can only be viewed by an administrator if the recipient reports it for breaching the rules. Might be as well leaving the discussion at that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    PJTierney wrote: »
    Given that it's on at Stupid O' Clock in the morning, what time is BBC's 90 minute highlights package running at? I wouldn't mind blocking myself from the internet to watch that at a reasonable hour (that and I don't have Sky).

    2-4pm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,108 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    For the opening race, McLaren and Ferrari will need to be fast right out of the box, and have cars that can match the Red Bull's pace. If Red Bull win in Oz and start getting on a roll for the next few races and once the racing starts in Europe, we could easily have a repeat of last season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,444 ✭✭✭frostie500


    Jordan 191 wrote: »
    For the opening race, McLaren and Ferrari will need to be fast right out of the box, and have cars that can match the Red Bull's pace. If Red Bull win in Oz and start getting on a roll for the next few races and once the racing starts in Europe, we could easily have a repeat of last season.

    I would be amazed if Ferrari is anywhere near the pace this weekend; I think they will be concentrating on whats behind them rather than in front of them. I also wouldnt be in a hurry to write off the season if Red Bull win this weekend. Everything points to McLaren and Red Bull being very evenly matched and based on the development work that McLaren have done in recent years once we get to Europe they could start finding great form. Its all shaping up to be a good year!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,108 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    frostie500 wrote: »
    I would be amazed if Ferrari is anywhere near the pace this weekend; I think they will be concentrating on whats behind them rather than in front of them. I also wouldnt be in a hurry to write off the season if Red Bull win this weekend. Everything points to McLaren and Red Bull being very evenly matched and based on the development work that McLaren have done in recent years once we get to Europe they could start finding great form. Its all shaping up to be a good year!

    Frostie, for the start of the season, would you say the order for the top 4 teams as: Red Bull, McLaren, Mercedes and Ferrari?

    And as for you point about Red Bull this weekend, what I was saying is that if Red Bull win this weekend, they could get on a roll and start the season like last year where they won 3 out of the first 4 races.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,444 ✭✭✭frostie500


    Jordan 191 wrote: »
    Frostie, for the start of the season, would you say the order for the top 4 teams as: Red Bull, McLaren, Mercedes and Ferrari?

    And as for you point about Red Bull this weekend, what I was saying is that if Red Bull win this weekend, they could get on a roll and start the season like last year where they won 3 out of the first 4 races.

    Personally I think its still going to be Red Bull, McLaren, Ferrari, Merc and Lotus but I do think that there will be quite a bit of distance between the McLaren's and the Ferrari, Merc, Lotus fight. I think Alonso will flatter the Ferrari and get it onto the third row of the grid but Massa....he could be out in Q2 and it wouldnt surprise such is what Ive heard about the Ferrari.

    In terms of race testing (never an accurate indicator because of fuel loads etc) seemed to indicate that the Lotus and Merc were faster than Ferrari but I wouldnt be betting my house on it. I think in all conditions those three teams are very evenly matched.

    About the Red Bull getting on a roll comment I think I focussed on the wrong half of your sentence! The good thing is that in 4 days, 4 hours and 54 minutes the race will start and we'll get some answers!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,108 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    frostie500 wrote: »

    In terms of race testing (never an accurate indicator because of fuel loads etc) seemed to indicate that the Lotus and Merc were faster than Ferrari but I wouldnt be betting my house on it. I think in all conditions those three teams are very evenly matched.

    About the Red Bull getting on a roll comment I think I focussed on the wrong half of your sentence! The good thing is that in 4 days, 4 hours and 54 minutes the race will start and we'll get some answers!

    I agree with what you say about testing. What happens on Saturday and Sunday in a race weekend is what counts. Roll on Saturday...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    frostie500 wrote: »
    Personally I think its still going to be Red Bull, McLaren, Ferrari, Merc and Lotus but I do think that there will be quite a bit of distance between the McLaren's and the Ferrari, Merc, Lotus fight. I think Alonso will flatter the Ferrari and get it onto the third row of the grid but Massa....he could be out in Q2 and it wouldnt surprise such is what Ive heard about the Ferrari.

    Sounds an awful lot like last year tbh.

    One wonders how much was Massa being so awful compared to Alonso being so awesome and where the car was actually at.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭freestyla


    I'm still not sure how to watch F1 :(

    Don't have TV, only PC.. Sky could offer SkyGo subscriptions only for cheaper :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,969 ✭✭✭antomorro-sei


    Was looking forward to this, but I'm gonna be on a 4am bus back from Valencia so looks like it'll be highlights for me!

    No idea who's gonna win or anything, probably be one of the Red Bull or McLaren drivers, but I'd love to see Kimi or Schumacher on the podium. Or both :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭actua11


    I have to think Alonso is being a little underrated (which I never thought would happen) He's shown that given anything other even just approaching a reasonable car that he can put it into winning position. So given that the likes of Webber, Raikkonen, Rosberg and Schumacher are a little hit and miss or something of an unknown quantity Alonso has to be a good bet for a good haul of points and be able to pick up a couple of wins when circumstances allow.

    Also underrated is Button. Recent world champion, multiple winner around Melbourne (and a great pole in 2006) show's he should have the pace come race weekend. Also he comfortably beat Hamilton in the championship last year, as well as Alonso and Webber in a Red Bull. However, reading an article in Autosport mag this week, the impression I got was that it would be a disaster if Hamilton doesn't take his 'natural' place ahead of Button which I think is unfair.

    Anyway, as a prediction to be proved wrong by Sunday evening is, Button-Vettel-Alonso. Bring on the race!

    Also, just checked the forcast, rain this week up till Saturday so chance of a jumbled up grid which is always nice!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,621 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Off topic
    Is anyone running the weekend championship like last year?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Sleep pattern successfully destroyed, should be sorted for the weekend so! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭ivanc


    Judging by this site's background clicky the season's looking a bit scary already!:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Heh, I remember even in 96 thinking that Hill's car was the most accurate tobacco advertising I'd ever seen. :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    Like it m8 :D

    Btw im standing in a river at the moment and if anyone would like to join me then whisper to me.;)

    It quite good believe it or not:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 936 ✭✭✭Hasmunch


    Got my free ticket for Sunday in the post yesterday :D

    Cant wait for the weekend, heres hoping it stays dry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,282 ✭✭✭Glico Man


    Anybody know what time the race starts and possible finish on Sunday? Starting work at 7.30 so don't really want to miss any of it. Also don't have sky at work so can't pop it on the tele


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,969 ✭✭✭antomorro-sei


    By the sounds of things, HRT are gonna have a poxy weekend!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭Grim.


    By the sounds of things, HRT are gonna have a poxy weekend!

    no change there then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,969 ✭✭✭antomorro-sei


    aaronh007 wrote: »
    Anybody know what time the race starts and possible finish on Sunday? Starting work at 7.30 so don't really want to miss any of it. Also don't have sky at work so can't pop it on the tele

    6am they said at the start of the show.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    aaronh007 wrote: »
    Anybody know what time the race starts and possible finish on Sunday? Starting work at 7.30 so don't really want to miss any of it. Also don't have sky at work so can't pop it on the tele

    Kicks off at 6, should be finished going on 7.30.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Be some craic if Marussia's low nose gave them a coupla seconds over everyone else :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,282 ✭✭✭Glico Man


    6am they said at the start of the show.

    Ooh... cutting it close.. races usually last 1hr 30 mins ish. Taxi to work at 7.20 still might mean I'll miss the last 10 minutes :/

    This makes me :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    amacachi wrote: »
    Kicks off at 6, should be finished going on 7.30.

    This is not the fastest of races so i reckon it will be after 8 if it rains and barely before if it doesn't


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    It's like Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory around that Skypad thing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭Marty McFly


    God bless Sky :Danyone thats been watching will know what I mean.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,969 ✭✭✭antomorro-sei


    aaronh007 wrote: »
    Ooh... cutting it close.. races usually last 1hr 30 mins ish. Taxi to work at 7.20 still might mean I'll miss the last 10 minutes :/

    This makes me :(

    Sorry to hear man.

    Makes me happy though, that'll be 7am here and I'm supposed to arrive back from Valencia at 6am. Delightful :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,282 ✭✭✭Glico Man


    God bless Sky :Danyone thats been watching will know what I mean.

    Georgie?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Sparks43 wrote: »
    This is not the fastest of races so i reckon it will be after 8 if it rains and barely before if it doesn't

    30 seconds short of an hour and a half last year :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭Marty McFly


    aaronh007 wrote: »
    Georgie?

    Got it in one, shes looking well :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Got it in one, shes looking well :)

    No Rachel Wyse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    amacachi wrote: »
    30 seconds short of an hour and a half last year :)

    Check other years m8

    Btw ive posted on the poll it would be sad if we dont have it this year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,282 ✭✭✭Glico Man


    Just discovered I can stream on my phone... happy days :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,282 ✭✭✭Glico Man


    Got it in one, shes looking well :)

    Not to sound crude or anything but she's a fcuking ride


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭Grim.


    ahh i see the Exxon Valdez has made a visit to the track


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