Money = Happiness

token101 · 14-03-2012 01:04PM

I don't think Money= Happiness, but No Money= No Happiness!

Having no money definitely will make you miserable, and the people who say about Ireland in the old days 'Oh we were poor but we were happy' are simpletons and bullsh*tters. I remember having to settle for Gola runners because the parents couldn't afford anything else because they weren't working. I certainly wasn't a happy f*cking camper when people started calling me 'Kenny' after the South Park character.

But having money isn't enough to make you happy. It might solve some of the problems making you unhappy, but it won't solve them all. Sure look at all the f**ked up celebrities. They have plenty of cash but end up topping themselves/ going f**ing mad on drugs. And the amount of Lotto winners who blow all their money? You need a balance in life.

chakotha · 14-03-2012 01:21PM

token101 wrote: »

I don't think Money= Happiness, but No Money= No Happiness!

Agreed.

Unless you were born and reared in the Amazon or the South Pacific or somewhere like that.

Fizman · 14-03-2012 01:44PM

Wasn't there a great philanthropist/mathematician who came up with a fairly concise equation.

"Mo' money = mo' problems".

P Diddy I think his name was.

Scanlas The 2nd · 14-03-2012 01:48PM

chakotha wrote: »

token101 wrote: »

I don't think Money= Happiness, but No Money= No Happiness!

Agreed.

Unless you were born and reared in the Amazon or the South Pacific or somewhere like that.

Modern hunter gathere societies are happy and they have no money. Depression is unheard of.

foxyboxer · 14-03-2012 02:10PM

If you wake up tomorrow and have no more means of income other than interest/dividends on savings or investment, how long would you last?

Money in itself does not equate happiness. It's only pieces of paper or a digital display after all.
Having sufficient money to provide for your needs and insufficient debts will make you comfortable.

I keep asking myself why I go to work everyday.
Basically it's to make money but I have no inherent need to earn the money that I do. As in, I have no debts to pay, very few bills and no children to rear.

So why is it that I show up for work everyday?
It's simply to reach the point where enough money has been accrued that I reach a point where showing up for work becomes a choice. When you reach that level of financial freedom then that's the point where we can equate 'money' with happiness.

Therefore, if I wake up in the morning and go to work it's not because I have to, it's because I choose to.

Personally for me the ultimate goal is to 'work' from September through to March and have enough resources to take time off from April though August.
Like a school year in effect.

Observing the importance of compound interest and the idea of money makes money is the roadmap to achieving this.

Stiffler2 · 14-03-2012 02:49PM

If I had loads of money I would purchase more money

AeoNGriM · 14-03-2012 02:57PM

KTRIC wrote: »

LOL, I don't like drugs, even the prescribed ones. Hence my problem.

Relax. Take a deep breath. Unless you're problems are family or health related, do something unexpected......let them go.

You don't need to stress and worry about them The most important thing in life? Your health and your happiness.

Take some time to yourself. Buy a nice bit of green and some papers, and smoke yourself up a nice one, and let go of all that stress and worry.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 14-03-2012 03:00PM

foxyboxer wrote: »

If you wake up tomorrow and have no more means of income other than interest/dividends on savings or investment, how long would you last?

Money in itself does not equate happiness. It's only pieces of paper or a digital display after all.
Having sufficient money to provide for your needs and insufficient debts will make you comfortable.

I keep asking myself why I go to work everyday.
Basically it's to make money but I have no inherent need to earn the money that I do. As in, I have no debts to pay, very few bills and no children to rear.

So why is it that I show up for work everyday?
It's simply to reach the point where enough money has been accrued that I reach a point where showing up for work becomes a choice. When you reach that level of financial freedom then that's the point where we can equate 'money' with happiness.

Therefore, if I wake up in the morning and go to work it's not because I have to, it's because I choose to.

Personally for me the ultimate goal is to 'work' from September through to March and have enough resources to take time off from April though August.
Like a school year in effect.

Observing the importance of compound interest and the idea of money makes money is the roadmap to achieving this.

So your still living at home with mammy and daddy and they dont charge you rent and your only bill is for your phone....

token101 · 14-03-2012 03:01PM

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Modern hunter gathere societies are happy and they have no money. Depression is unheard of.

Maybe because they don't use currency? But I'd imagine if Jimmy next door has more wives/goats/hens/nice furs than you, you'd be a bit jealous, leading to depression after a while. And I'd say if they had to hand their over their some of their lot because the family in the next hut is after borrowing too much to pay for their growing herd of cattle, you'd get a f*cking swift poison dart in the neck. It's all relative

Millicent · 14-03-2012 03:21PM

I always hate people who trot this expression out when you are having financial worries.

Yeah, money may not bring happiness, but worrying from morning to night about how the rent and electricity are going to be paid, where money for the week's groceries is going to come from, is not exactly a barrel of laughs.

At least with money you can work on problems that aren't to do with just struggling to survive.

foxyboxer · 14-03-2012 03:31PM

CJC999 wrote: »

So your still living at home with mammy and daddy and they dont charge you rent and your only bill is for your phone....

I wish!
I travel with work mostly so it's hotels and b&b's.
No mortgage but when I do go home for a weekend it's at the parents house in 'my' room.

Ellis Dee · 14-03-2012 03:33PM

There's a saying in German: "Geld macht nicht glücklich, aber auf seidenen Kissen weint es sich besser." What it means is that money doesn't make you happy, but you're better off on a silken pillow when you cry.:):)

I don't think poverty is a great generator of happiness, either. There may be some people who are happy despite it, but very few indeed who are happy because of it.:D:D

Lawrence1895 · 14-03-2012 03:34PM

If you have money, you have loads of friends. Once the money is gone, you are left on your own...as my granny always used to say. Apparently, people take advantage of someone who has money :rolleyes:

Babybuff · 14-03-2012 03:35PM

If I had more money my daughter would be happier.

lividduck · 14-03-2012 03:37PM

Rabidlamb wrote: »

People hark on about having spiritual happiness & how their lives are complete.
All bullcrap, give me a good fat wedge so I can play golf all day, pay for a full-time nanny, 6 months holidays a year, never have to answer a 7am alarm ever again, that's me happy.

Discuss.

Whats to discuss? You have it , your are dead right, money , by and large, equals happiness:D

foxyboxer · 14-03-2012 03:38PM

Lars1916 wrote: »

If you have money, you have loads of friends. Once the money is gone, you are left on your own...as my granny always used to say. Apparently, people take advantage of someone who has money :rolleyes:

A fool and his money is some party.

foxyboxer · 14-03-2012 03:42PM

More money will just amplify what you're already like.

If you're easy going and happy with your lot then you'll be even happier.
If you're the charitable sort, you're more likely to share it.
If you're downbeat then you'll be luxuriously miserable.
If you're stingy then you're anxeity will rise trying to hold onto more of it.
If you're a dickhead, you'll be a complete nightmare.

jakobgallagher · 14-03-2012 04:01PM

http://http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3535764476733084568#
^
This is an interesting little program about a philosopher called Epicurus, he would not agree that money=happiness. Although if I was rich I would use the money to travel the world and I do think that would make me very happy.

Fluorescence · 14-03-2012 04:30PM

I reckon there's a sweet-spot somewhere (which may differ from person to person) where you have enough cash to not be in debt and can afford most of the things you like, but not so much that your entire life is built around accruing more and more money.

I wouldn't know what to do with the money if I won, say, €11 billion tomorrow. I'd probably give most of it away. If I won €50,000 though I'd be ecstatic :P

af_thefragile · 14-03-2012 04:46PM

Its more what money buys you (which is mostly freedom and security) that brings you happiness.

Inherently we humans seek freedom and security. If we can get that without money, we would be happy without the need to acquire money.

aidan24326 · 14-03-2012 05:11PM

Millicent wrote: »

Yeah, money may not bring happiness, but worrying from morning to night about how the rent and electricity are going to be paid, where money for the week's groceries is going to come from, is not exactly a barrel of laughs.

Exactly. Whatever the rich man's problems might be, at least he doesn't have to worry about how he's going to pay the bills and feed his family. And that's a bloody good start.

OldNotWIse · 14-03-2012 05:12PM

Not having to worry about money (ie having it) = happiness

angry kitten · 14-03-2012 05:13PM

If money can't buy you happiness does that mean that poverty is bliss?

af_thefragile · 14-03-2012 05:19PM

angry kitten wrote: »

If money can't buy you happiness does that mean that poverty is bliss?

Nah, poverty is **** too.

Bottom line, life sucks!

angry kitten · 14-03-2012 05:21PM

Ah damn it to hell anyway!

OldNotWIse · 14-03-2012 05:52PM

luckyfrank wrote: »

100k would do me, life changing money, no more debt money in the bank, i wouldnt have a care in the world

Same, I'd like to have enough to clear debts and get the banks off my back, help out parents and close friends with a few bob and pay college fees so I could change to a more rewarding career... That's it really

Oh and maybe (just to be greedy), enough left over to fly to NY and spend a couple of grand on clothes that would last me a few years...sigh...

DazMarz · 14-03-2012 05:52PM

Hey, even if money can't make you happy... at least you'll be miserable in comfort!

OldNotWIse · 14-03-2012 05:53PM

angry kitten wrote: »

If money can't buy you happiness does that mean that poverty is bliss?

hahaha, if only. I often heard it said that money can't make you happy...but at least you can be miserable in comfort

shopaholic01 · 14-03-2012 06:09PM

Money may not bring happiness in itself, but it would give you the time, freedom and resources to go fine it!

I'll get back to you when I win the lotto and let you know how it pans out:D

Scanlas The 2nd · 14-03-2012 06:18PM

token101 wrote: »

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Modern hunter gathere societies are happy and they have no money. Depression is unheard of.

Maybe because they don't use currency? But I'd imagine if Jimmy next door has more wives/goats/hens/nice furs than you, you'd be a bit jealous, leading to depression after a while. And I'd say if they had to hand their over their some of their lot because the family in the next hut is after borrowing too much to pay for their growing herd of cattle, you'd get a f*cking swift poison dart in the neck. It's all relative

The facts are they have no money and they are happy, it's as simple as that. So you can be happy without money.

Money = Happiness

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