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Clear Examples of Goodies Vs Baddies

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  • #62
    Hande hoche!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,950 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    The joys of yeast.


  • #63
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Red Hand wrote: »
    Giselle wrote: »

    Tom (Goody)
    Jerry (Baddy)

    Jerry was misundertood. Cats can never be baddies...they just give off an air of evil overlordness.:pac:
    Tom was the cat. Even though it's framed in such a way that the audience roots for Jerry, with him being so much smaller and at risk of being killed and eaten all the time - the David and Goliath approach - feck it, Jerry is a little bastard. Look how he torments the poor maid! Go Tom!


  • #64
    krudler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    ThinksAmoral wrote: »
    You'll never see a westernised movie where America is the baddie.

    And I don't mean cowboys and Indians.

    The Rock, portrays the US military as underhanded and mistreating its own veterans.

    in yo face.


  • #65
    later12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,298 ✭✭✭✭later12


    I always thought the educational merit of The Wizard of Oz was that things are not always as they seem.

    http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/celebrity-pictures-margaret-hamilton-bad-guy.jpg


  • #66
    44leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    Goodie Domestos in a bad 99% way

    baddie Germs and those 1% that get away are really badass germs.

    Domestos should really get the finger out and go that extra mile to get those 1%


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  • #67
    St.Spodo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭St.Spodo


    Goody: Stone Cold Steve Austin.

    Baddie: Vince McMahon.


  • #68
    nlgbbbblth
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,668 ✭✭✭nlgbbbblth


    Hunting

    Dogs (baddies)
    Foxes (goodies)


  • #69
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 94,998 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    44leto wrote: »
    Goodie Domestos in a bad 99% way
    If the 1% that survive are resistant to desmostos there isn't much point in using it a second time is there ?


  • #70
    Optimalprimerib
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭Optimalprimerib


    Suarez- goody
    Evra- baddy


  • #71
    Skylinehead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    Hank Scorpio - goody
    France - baddy.


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  • #72
    Tar.Aldarion
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,116 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Wheel of Morality turn turn turn, tell us the lesson that we should learn!


  • #73
    --LOS--
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,028 ✭✭✭✭--LOS--


    red sauce = good guy

    brown sauce = bad guy


  • #74
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,788 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    creeper1 wrote: »
    I saw the recent "Kony" video on youtube that went viral.

    Perhaps it oversimplified things.

    Clearly this guy is a "baddie" but maybe his oponents aren't exactly "goodies."

    Then it got me thinking.

    How many wars can you think of where there are clear examples of Goodies vs Baddies?

    I'll start - WW2 - Nazis and Japanese (Baddies) vs Allies (Goodies)

    Next - 1916 rebellion - Republicans (Goodies) vs British (Baddies)

    Give me some more.:pac:

    Not one.


  • #75
    longshanks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭longshanks


    Jade Goody
    David Baddie(l)

    Drink is good
    Hangovers are bad

    Dogs are cool bastards and cats are evil bastards


  • #76
    Redzer7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,209 ✭✭✭Redzer7


    Some tekkers are goood
    Some tekkers are baaad


  • #77
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Browncoats (Goodies)

    V's

    The Alliance (Evil, evil I tell ya!)


  • #78
    phasers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    Batman and The Joker

    The Doctor and The Master

    Jennifer Aniston and Angelina Jolie


  • #79
    44leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    If the 1% that survive are resistant to desmostos there isn't much point in using it a second time is there ?

    Never said it was, will the war on germs ever be won, I suppose not which really is a good thing, without them there would be no-us.


  • #80
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Nodin wrote: »
    bwatson wrote: »
    No fishing here. If you disagree thats fine, but don't think that because someone does not share the same views as you it is their intention to be antagonistic.

    I'll agree that at times the Israelis act in an unacceptable manner. However, in the context of the Yom Kippur War, in which Israel was attacked by bordering nations 400 times its size, I don't think it can be argued that their extremely effective, heroic military counter operations were anything but justified.

    .....

    In fairness, when people think 'Israel=bad guy', Yom kippur is not on their minds.
    Why would anyone say Israel = goodie?

    Oh yeah, because if you're a young hardline conservative (as seems to be a fashion in recent years) there are certain boxes you must tick - one of those being "Back Israel at all times". If Israel has behaved unacceptably at times (understatement and all as that is) how is it a "goodie"?
    Fair enough to believe Israel has the right to defend itself from extremists (as do I, but it usually goes about this completely disproportionately) however, even objectively speaking, I can't see how this state is a goodie. I wouldn't even say it considers itself a goodie.

    Btw, OP, butchering children is pretty cut and dry - I don't think it's possible for the Kony case to be misrepresented.


  • #81
    brimal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭brimal


    Dudess wrote: »
    Why would anyone say Israel = goodie?

    Oh yeah, because if you're a young hardline conservative (as seems to be a fashion in recent years) there are certain boxes you must tick - one of those being "Back Israel at all times". If Israel has behaved unacceptably at times (understatement and all as that is) how is it a "goodie"?
    Fair enough to believe Israel has the right to defend itself from extremists (as do I, but it usually goes about this completely disproportionately) however, even objectively speaking, I can't see how this state is a goodie. I wouldn't even say it considers itself a goodie.

    Btw, OP, butchering children is pretty cut and dry - I don't think it's possible for the Kony case to be misrepresented.

    He said goodie during the Yom Kippur war.


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  • #82
    44leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    The Israelis are not all that bad, if terrorists in Northern Ireland start randomly firing rockets into Dublin or anywhere in Ireland and the Northern Irish government turned a blind eye and Ireland had the military strength of the Israelis we would behave the exact same way. Nobody could tell me any different.


  • #83
    Dunny
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Dunny


    Dogs (goodies, no wait, HEROES)

    Cats (Baddies, no wait, selfish evil c*nts)


  • #84
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    44leto wrote: »
    The Israelis are not all that bad, if terrorists in Northern Ireland start randomly firing rockets into Dublin or anywhere in Ireland and the Northern Irish government turned a blind eye and Ireland had the military strength of the Israelis we would behave the exact same way. Nobody could tell me any different.
    There's a difference between justifiable self defence and going completely overboard.


  • #85
    44leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    Dudess wrote: »
    There's a difference between justifiable self defence and going completely overboard.

    Like what they tried negotiation for years but Hezbollah hid behind the borders receiving generous support from Syria and Iran, they had no choice. Lets go back to my thought experiment and Northern Ireland kept firing rockets at us, what could we do.

    And remember Hezbollaz and Hamas will not negotiate with Israel because neither recognise the state of israel, that only leaves one option. Anyone who knows the politics of the region knows isreal had no option, it doesn't want to invade, war is expensive, the Isreali economy is suffering and it just furthers their enemies cause.

    I sympathise with both sides but I will not give all my sympaties to either and nor should anyone.


  • #86
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    We'd defend ourselves - and rightly so. I'd hope we wouldn't use extremely disproportionate force though, which is what the Israeli state/military gets criticised for, not the mere self defence.


  • #87
    44leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    Dudess wrote: »
    We'd defend ourselves - and rightly so. I'd hope we wouldn't use extremely disproportionate force though, which is what the Israeli state/military gets criticised for, not the mere self defence.

    To be honest they get critiscised by people who haven't a clue and have an agenda. Hezbollah is virtually a standing army, it openly trains and are a very effective fighting force equipped by Iran. they are also part of the Lebanese government so not a lot of hope that the Lebanese government would stop the rocket attacks.

    So what would have been a proportional response, an air raid perhaps, they tried that for year and the only option left was invasion, which also failed because Israel lost. Then Iran stopped the rocket attacks.

    Now watch them start again.


  • #88
    later12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,298 ✭✭✭✭later12


    Dudess wrote: »
    There's a difference between justifiable self defence and going completely overboard.
    I really don't see why the law of self defence (that is to say, whereby reasonable defence and the necessity of a real & present threat are required in order to constitute self defence) do not apply to groups of people (states) in their interactions with one another as it does to single people (individuals in their own right).


  • #89
    quickbeam
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    Clint Eastwood - goodie
    Lee Van Cleef - baddie
    Eli Wallach - uglyie


  • #90
    plasmaguy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭plasmaguy


    One man's terrorist, is another's freedom fighter. Often it's all about perspective.

    That said, Rocky was a goodie fighting that Russian guy.


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  • #91
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    benway wrote: »
    Dudess wrote: »
    1916 would be one of those events where it depends on where you're coming from as to who were the goodies and baddies.
    And while obviously the nazis were baddies, one of the allies, the soviets, certainly weren't goodies.

    It's not obvious at all to me that the Nazis or the Soviets were baddies by comparison with the Brits, say, who were running a system of concentration camps in Kenya in the late 50s and early 60s, whose record of respecting human rights, self-determination and not murdering innocent civilians in cold blood is patchy, at best.

    It's all relative, granted, but none of them are clean.
    Well in the context of WWII alone, and not prior to that, the nazis and soviets were the clearcut baddies.


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