Why Australia and Canada ?

Princess Peach wrote: »

Well for one the countries are fully English speaking so there's no barrier there. That makes it a lot easier to look for a job than in European countries that may have English speaking jobs but not that many.

Because of the language then the culture is quite similar. Not hard to make friends with the locals at all, and you don't feel so homesick or foreign.

People who find it "upsetting " to be so far away from Ireland don't move away so. Plenty of unemployed people who choose to stay in Ireland because it is their home. But some don't mind going away.

I would not say that speaking the same Language makes your Culture similar, its much more complicated than that due to many factors.

E.G.
Religious Political Influence.
The Weather.
The size of the country.
The density of the Population.
The view of that Country on the Country your coming from.

I mean if that was the case then why not just find a job in the UK ?

Father Damo wrote: »

And why would China bother to stop buying them?

If there is one thing Ive realised is that most Australians are completely clueless about their own economy. On one hand they rant about how increasing taxes will chase away the Chinese resource buyers, on the other they rant and rave about the Chinese buying massive plots of farmland for commercial farming as if they are going to steal all Australias food and have the country starve.

Why do people want to emigrate to Australia? Probably because you can often make more per week here being a site dogsbody wheeling rubble away than people with somewhat fancier job titles earn back home.

Well if your worried about the Stability of Ireland/Europe and it did all go Pete Tong the first ones to feel it would be China. There would a massive drop in demand for Chinese Manufactured goods. If you don't manufacture then you don't need as much in the way of raw materials.

Hence Australia would be the second to feel it since the Raw material exports would drop by a massive amount.

It would not destroy the economy, but the huge amount of Jobs created by China would disappear.

Was thinking about it yesterday and its not really an argument, more of an observation.

The trend from my perspective is that its 'very sad' that people are being torn away from their family and being forced to travel to Australia and Canada.

Theres two sides.

I recognise that people are finding it tough now since their income has either dropped siginificantly or disappeared to Dole levels altogether. How ever I don't understand why you would do something so high risk (large investment with Visas, moving costs, no support network with family and friends) to earn an extra bit of cash.

There are the people that see no future in the country and I think these people have been caught up in the 'mania'. People were always leaving Ireland and heading off to other countries, its why Irish bars are like a dose of Herpes on the world.

I would recommend to anyone that if you move to another country then try not to bring Ireland with you and Integrate, and by that I do not mean go drinking and meet people.

Get to know your Neighbours, try to organise events, learn about the History, the Culture, the Differences between different areas of the country (Politically and Culturally)

The biggest thing is 'going home' too often, i've seen so many Irish living over here with practically no life because they travel home almost every second weekend.

But saying that, It's probably as much of a Culture shock for someone moving from Cork to Dublin as it is for someone moving from Dublin to Amsterdam.

Lots of options there, lots of English speaking jobs close to home (From my front door to Dublin Airport is about 2 1/2 hours) its a curse and a blessing that the Dutch speak such good English.

And if your up for it then move someplace where theres an English speaking Job and then learn the local language, most companies in Germany where the Business language is English give free German lessons and help with relocation, integration and it alot of cases they even pay for an International School for your kids.

By all means move, but IMO if being close to home is that important to you then look for jobs closer to home, money does not make you happy, you only have so many years in your lifetime.

If you want to go to Australia or Canada then go with the premise of wanting to experience Australia or Canada.

If you want to be able to drive/fly home then find a job in Europe.
There is no visa requirement.
Your covered health insurance wise for 6 months when you get there.
You can get back home very easily if it doesn't work out.
You can search for a Job and easily attend interviews without having to go. all balls in with Telephone/Skype interviews and just turning up.
You can scope out an area before you choose where to live.
There are systems in place within the EU for European Citizens to live easily in the EU.

Just a thought.

parc wrote: »

That's really interesting that you say that. Always thought Holland would be a great place to live, though saying that I've never stayed there for a long period of time

eth0 is right in a way, I lived in the Randstad (The Hague) for 2 years, its got all sorts of problems mainly due to the population density.

On the surface it looks like and open and free thinking easy to live place.
Scratch the surface and is a bureaucratic pain in the hole with slight overtones of racism and everyone is in a rush, nobody talks to each other.

Moved to the South a few years back now and its worlds apart, we know quite a few of our Neighbours, there's various neighbourhood events every year. We can drive for 25 minutes and were over the border in Belgium, lots of things to see and do, loads of large forrests to bring the dog.

Theres a park around 300 meters from our house, even a small petting farm with Goats, Chickens, Pigs etc for kids.

Amsterdam, The Hague, Utrecht etc are great to visit, but totally different to live in. If I want to its a 1hr 35min train ride that goes every thirty minutes from Eindhoven to Amsterdam.

When I go back to Ireland the difference is unreal, the size of housing estates that have little in the way of amenities is shocking, every house has 2-5 cars parked outside and the most that would be there is a Spar with an Offie and a Chinese Takeaway.