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TV Licence???

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    smash wrote: »
    Has anyone ever told a TV license inspector to fúck off?
    Didn't swear at him but replied to one with "Not interested, thanks" and closed the door.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭Fulton Crown


    Not quiet the same thing, see what grinds other peoples gears is its not a TV licence its a RTE Tax, why should we pay for rte if we don't watch it.
    If you enjoy watching RTE then its only right you should pay for it, just don't ask me to subsidise it for you.

    Put RTE on subscription channel and abolish the tv licence and that is that end of problem.

    Chances of that happening? Fu*k All!

    An how is things in "Cloud Cuckoo Land" pal ?

    Let's follow your "Logic"...you don't ever (ever ever ever?) watch RTE therefore you should not have to pay for it.

    Well this poster never uses public transport and by your logic should not have to subsidise CIE / Irish rail.

    I don't use state schools....so should not have to contribute to education ?

    Get real pilgrim......you have no logic.....just bulldust......hmmmm?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    An how is things in "Cloud Cuckoo Land" pal ?

    Let's follow your "Logic"...you don't ever (ever ever ever?) watch RTE therefore you should not have to pay for it.

    Well this poster never uses public transport and by your logic should not have to subsidise CIE / Irish rail.

    I don't use state schools....so should not have to contribute to education ?

    Get real pilgrim......you have no logic.....just bulldust......hmmmm?

    In this scenario one of the bus drivers is named Marian F.
    She gets paid almost 500,000 a year (aprox 10 grand a week) for driving the bus just 4 hours every week.
    She is absent approx 15 out of the 52 weeks in the year, but still gets paid....... pilgrim.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,408 ✭✭✭bbam


    it can be easily avoided in the U.K but not here seeing as it's law and part of the broadcast act of 2009 that we all have to have a licence and can be brought to court in which we receive a fine of 1000 euro and then 2000 euro for subsequent offences.

    I have a friend of a friend ;)
    Moved out of home mid 90's, never got a licence, never a call to the door either... It's very very easy to avoid it here..

    17 years saved... worse case scenario, knock at the door and asked to get a licence within a week or month or whatever...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,134 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    My neighbours & I received TV license letters & each was addressed personally. Apparently An Post are getting the postman to supply the names & addresses of anyone who is not on the license subscriber list. Needless to say our postie is denying all knowledge of this :rolleyes:.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭corglass


    Wouldn't worry bout it too much, I stupidly anwsered the door to the inspecor with two telly's blaring(sure how would I know?) said yes hadn't a licence,gave me 6 weeks to get one,didn't cos broke got a few reminders,blah blah,got a summons a few months later,didn't go to court, got ANOTHER summons didn't go,got fined in my absense 600 yo-yo's didn't pay that either got reminders from a collection agency threw them in the green bin(gotta recycle that sh!t ye know?) then got a reminder from the inspector that "our records show you haven't had a licence for 2 years now" crap. Just ignore it,what can they do lock you up?Prison's are full,they keep fining you repeatedly they might say a week inside in lieu of the fine(s) but the way it is,show up to the joy,sign your name,go home.I know people that have done just that for motoring fines,in the grand scheme of things just be cool and ignore them,going to court,even to plead that your broke just draws attention to yourself. And if you do get dragged in on a warrant(bloody unlikekly) play dumb."tv licence?reminders?never seen the letters your honour!" F*ck them they get enough money off us as it is. P.S. this all happened in the past eighteen months and I haven't heard anything whatsoever.
    Get help, man. Professional help


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,787 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    bbam wrote: »
    I have a friend of a friend ;)
    Moved out of home mid 90's, never got a licence, never a call to the door either... It's very very easy to avoid it here..

    17 years saved... worse case scenario, knock at the door and asked to get a licence within a week or month or whatever...

    It is very easy to escape paying and if you are caught you get every chance to pay before going to court. But because we are generally a law abiding nation 85% plus pay the licence fee. Like every other form of lawbreaking it is not a victimless crime. The ones that do pay have to make up the shortfall for the evaders, something like €25 million a year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭120_Minutes


    The ones that do pay have to make up the shortfall for the evaders, something like €25 million a year.


    Cheers man, owe ya pint next time I see ya.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 323 ✭✭emigrate2012


    corglass wrote: »
    Get help, man. Professional help

    WTF!?! This issue seems to strike a chord with some posters,get help? for what? Choosing not to pay a fee to the governments mouthpiece and it's vastly overpaid stars? Correct me if i'm wrong(I'm sure you will) but RTE receives something in the region of 80 odd % of the licence fee AND retains the right to take in advertising revenue on top of that. TG4 receives a pittance of that % and produces arguably far superior programming on a vastly reduced budget, TV3 (Ireland's Sun to RTE's Indo if you will) receives less than that, though you have to commend them for going up against the State media agency with what I'd imagine is a meager budget.

    AS one poster has asked another in this thread, do you work in the television licence department?!? Inspector or Collections section? Clowns should stay in their respective circus................


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,787 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    WTF!?! This issue seems to strike a chord with some posters,get help? for what? Choosing not to pay a fee to the governments mouthpiece and it's vastly overpaid stars? Correct me if i'm wrong(I'm sure you will) but RTE receives something in the region of 80 odd % of the licence fee AND retains the right to take in advertising revenue on top of that. TG4 receives a pittance of that % and produces arguably far superior programming on a vastly reduced budget, TV3 (Ireland's Sun to RTE's Indo if you will) receives less than that, though you have to commend them for going up against the State media agency with what I'd imagine is a meager budget.

    AS one poster has asked another in this thread, do you work in the television licence department?!? Inspector or Collections section? Clowns should stay in their respective circus................

    Are there any other laws you choose to break?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    Discodog wrote: »
    My neighbours & I received TV license letters & each was addressed personally. Apparently An Post are getting the postman to supply the names & addresses of anyone who is not on the license subscriber list. Needless to say our postie is denying all knowledge of this :rolleyes:.

    Do NEVER get registered post delivered to your address, thats how they find out who lives there. Not by regular post.
    The ones that do pay have to make up the shortfall for the evaders, something like €25 million a year.

    Of course the RTE bill is nothing to do with overpaid staff and costs :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 800 ✭✭✭faigs


    It's not just the minority of RTÉ overpaid staff that the TV licence fee pays. Sure, there are overpaid presenters in there but there are lots of other staff too, and about 80-90% of the Irish shows broadcast on the channels are independently produced and commissioned by RTÉ, supporting thousands of jobs in the TV industry. If the fee didn't exist these jobs wouldn't either.

    For the size of our country we actually make decent TV, have you ever seen some of the thrash put out on other Euro stations, in Oz and NZ, and even in the States? Our state broadcaster gets slated a lot in comparison to what we can easily access form across the water, the big boys in BBC. People seem to forget that BBC regularly produce the worlds best television with the worlds biggest television budgets! RTÉ is then unfairly compared to it, eg the guests in the Late Late compared to the guests on Graham Norton. There is no comparison between the stations, BBC is a different animal.

    If there was no licence fee all we would see on Irish TV is crap bought in from other countries and cheaply produced muck like what the likes of City Channel used to put out. Imagine if we had no independent productions or home made tv shows? I wish, like everyone that RTÉ would stop overpaying their 'stars' and put their budgets towards production values, but hey, the head of Coillte gets over half a million a year and people don't complain about their tax going to that.

    The TV licence is a tax, you are obliged to pay it, and if you don't, you deserve every fine coming to you. Our TV and film industry has a lot of positives and potential for the future and I really think it should be supported. Anyone illegally receiving, downloading and streaming tv and film regularly is showing ignorance and lack of support for the art that they enjoy so much.

    Just my two cents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 800 ✭✭✭faigs


    mikom wrote: »
    In this scenario one of the bus drivers is named Marian F.
    She gets paid almost 500,000 a year (aprox 10 grand a week) for driving the bus just 4 hours every week.
    She is absent approx 15 out of the 52 weeks in the year, but still gets paid....... pilgrim.

    That's a pretty bad analogy mate. How about this:

    Marion F is the head of CIE and is overpaid. The bus driver is one of the thousands of other staff in RTÉ and the independent productions sector in the country that are needed to keep the station running and keep producing programming.

    Lots of people are paid by the licence you know. The bus drivers in this analogy could be producers, assistant producers, directors, assistant directors, camera ops, camera assistants, production assistants, runners, accountants, offline and online editors, colourists, sound operators, sound mixers, graphics producers and so on, all of who would have started off on minimum wage and some who still are. Have you ever looked at the credits roll after a programme? It takes a lot of people to produce tv and film and a lot of them are being paid from the revenue generated by the TV licence.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,624 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Discodog wrote: »
    My neighbours & I received TV license letters & each was addressed personally. Apparently An Post are getting the postman to supply the names & addresses of anyone who is not on the license subscriber list. Needless to say our postie is denying all knowledge of this :rolleyes:.
    Actually An Post have a database from reading the addresses on the letters back at the sorting office. Handwriting recognition and all that, only need humans when the machine can't read it.

    The only time they need the postie is for the physical dropoff.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,624 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    The punishment for refusing to pay your TV license is to be locked in a prison cell most of the day with nothing to do except watch TV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭flanzer


    The punishment for refusing to pay your TV license is to be locked in a prison cell most of the day with nothing to do except watch TV RTE.

    Fixed your post


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 323 ✭✭emigrate2012


    Are there any other laws you choose to break?

    yeah, I once murdered a clown for telling/asking me something stupid........!?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 82 ✭✭GamesDontSuck


    Its terrible that you have to pay for a tv license.
    A license to own a television :rolleyes: It infuriates you when you think about it. Now the government wants to include owning a pc or laptop into that license.

    Whats next? a broadband/internet license? A digital music device license? (aka, mp3, ipod etc)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭ap1986


    just say your name is Sheamus out of the WWE and say do you realise who won the Royal Rumble........ That should put an end to it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,102 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    I'm about 2 months away from stopping the derict debit on this, going to get rid of the tv and get a HD 3D Projector. I will be sending An Post a letter stating this, and that i will no longer be watching broadcast signals. Fook 'em. I don't watch RTE anyway. The only programs i watch at the moment are broadcast on far superior channels which i pay Sky to provide. I'll be getting rid of Sky too.

    Like others, if watching RTE was a premium service which cost €13 a month to access, i would not pay it. It produces complete and utter muck. The only decent program made by RTE ever was Reeling in the Years. They have produced nothing else of note. Nothing.

    TV is overrated anyway. I'm only watching 3 programs right now (all recorded so i can watch them when i want and fast forward the ads, and because i might as well get some use from a service that is costing me over €500 a year (Sky and TV Licence)) and i can happily stop watching them right now.

    As for this broadcasting act, should the onus of proving that terrestrial tv is being watched be on rte? I think it's madness that they can say you're using your tv/laptop/whatever to watch rte made programs, but don't have to prove it!! I'll happily prove i wasn't watching it, as long as Imagine are willing to give me a list of all the sites i visited. Jesus, all you have to do is combine the times i've spent playing games and you'll realise that i barely have time to watch tv!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭Fulton Crown


    Its terrible that you have to pay for a tv license.
    A license to own a television :rolleyes: It infuriates you when you think about it. Now the government wants to include owning a pc or laptop into that license.

    Whats next? a broadband/internet license? A digital music device license? (aka, mp3, ipod etc)

    It's a TAX pilgrim...the TV is only the vehicle for collection...you pay a TAX to own a car as well..you pay a TAX to own a property...you pay a TAX to own a dog.

    Welcome to the home planet...yov'e been away for a bit haven't you !


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭Fulton Crown


    mikom wrote: »
    In this scenario one of the bus drivers is named Marian F.
    She gets paid almost 500,000 a year (aprox 10 grand a week) for driving the bus just 4 hours every week.
    She is absent approx 15 out of the 52 weeks in the year, but still gets paid....... pilgrim.

    Listen up pal I am not defending the grossly over inflated salaries of the so called RTE Stars...Duffy /Kenny/Tubbs/Meeriam/Marion/Mooney et all.

    I am with you on that...

    It's the attitude of a relatively large cabal of folks who think they should have to pay for nothing.

    Take the Airtricity thing...they says that they has to increase the charge because of "arrears"....ie ...goons not paying .....so those who do pay end up paying for those who don't.

    Not right pilgrim ...not right at all in this cat's opinion.

    As for fcukin students...an unhealty portion of them think it's "smart" to scam the state / utilities / their parents etc etc.

    Some would greatly benefit by a good dose of reality.

    M'Kay ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,134 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    gurramok wrote: »
    Do NEVER get registered post delivered to your address, thats how they find out who lives there. Not by regular post.

    Maybe in the City but in many areas the postman knows everyone's name :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Nothingbetter2d


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Capt'n Midnight View Post
    The punishment for refusing to pay your TV license is to be locked in a prison cell most of the day with nothing to do except watch TV RTE.
    flanzer wrote: »
    Fixed your post

    man that is a harsh punishment


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok



    Get real pilgrim.....

    It's a TAX pilgrim...

    Not right pilgrim ..

    Are you God?:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,134 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    An how is things in "Cloud Cuckoo Land" pal ?

    Let's follow your "Logic"...you don't ever (ever ever ever?) watch RTE therefore you should not have to pay for it.

    Well this poster never uses public transport and by your logic should not have to subsidise CIE / Irish rail.

    I don't use state schools....so should not have to contribute to education ?

    Get real pilgrim......you have no logic.....just bulldust......hmmmm?

    People do pay for subscription TV - it isn't like schools or public transport :rolleyes:

    RTE is going digital so it is a simple matter to abolish the license fee & make RTE a subscription service. Those who want to watch it can pay. There is this ridiculous idea of "public service broadcasting" that needs to be abolished. Stations like Newstalk do just as much "public service" broadcasting as RTE without needing the license fee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭roast


    Get rid of the TV. Simples. I'll take it if you want.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    An how is things in "Cloud Cuckoo Land" pal ?

    Let's follow your "Logic"...you don't ever (ever ever ever?) watch RTE therefore you should not have to pay for it.

    Well this poster never uses public transport and by your logic should not have to subsidise CIE / Irish rail.

    I don't use state schools....so should not have to contribute to education ?

    Get real pilgrim......you have no logic.....just bulldust......hmmmm?

    Very strong whiff of Flutterin' Bantam off this post...

    yours,

    John Q Taxpayer


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Very strong whiff of Flutterin' Bantam off this post...

    yours,

    John Q Taxpayer

    Been saying that for months pal.
    Mods don't seem to know anything about it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    mikom wrote: »
    Been saying that for months pal.
    Mods don't seem to know anything about it.

    Just searched 'bulldust' in AH - one use by Fulton Crown, 17 uses by Flutterin' Bantam :)

    No uses by anyone else, ever.


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