Rangers FC lodge papers to go into administration

PauloMN · 07-03-2012 06:14PM

It actually sounds even worse than before, if that were possible. This "quick sale" thing seems to be based on the fact that they won't even last until the end of the season unless someone buy them and throws a pile of cash in.

But who will buy it with the big tax case looming?

Jelle1880 · 07-03-2012 06:17PM

That's how I see it as well, sounds like they're not getting out of it and that it's either quickly selling the club, or liquidation.

Dempsey · 07-03-2012 06:25PM

Surely you can just sell this and all will be sorted

:pac:

lubo_moravcik · 07-03-2012 06:54PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Motherwell play 34 home games now ?

Not necessarily 6800, but when you see that for example about 75% of the crowd at the last ICT - Rangers game were Rangers fans... You think ICT will make up for that when Rangers are gone ?

It's far from ideal and it's definitely not good for the league to have clubs dependent on Celtic and Rangers, but that's the case right now.

Nobody forced clubs to sell players and take on debt, that's their own choosing.

If you honestly think that, if all of this didn't happen, clubs like Hibs, Hearts, Aberdeen, Motherwell,... could rival us you're deluded.

edit: By making it sound like I condone cheating lubo.
Or why else would you make that remark ?

If you read back you'll see I was talking to the Keith.

A Primal Nut · 07-03-2012 06:58PM

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

What utter bull****. You have no idea of what it means to be a celtic fan

So why do so many Celtic fans go to Celtic-Rangers games more than game? And yet can still be happy that Rangers are going bust?

greendom · 07-03-2012 07:02PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Yeah, see my comment about twisting my words.

Clubs have no chance because Rangers and Celtic have pretty much formed a monopoly on Scottish football.

A duopoly, surely ?

bobmalooka · 07-03-2012 08:07PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Still means nothing, as soon as they get a bad run of results it'll probably drop again.
It's useless to take short-lived increases like this as fact.

If they keep it up season after season you'd have a point and even then it would have to be regardless of their league position.

edit: And an increase of 400/game, simply because they have the chance to end up 2nd, is pretty pathetic.
Motherwell are a decent club with a decent fanbase, 400 is pretty low.

No wonder you're disagreeing with everyone, you've mixed up the figures.

Motherwell have seen an increase of about 3,000 not the 400 you seem to think.

A very quick bit of calculating suggests that each SPL club needs an increase of about 400/game to cancel out the loss of Rangers not coming to town twice a year, not an unachieveable figure seeing as Motherwell have already achieved a 3000 increase at the gates.

Jelle1880 · 07-03-2012 08:33PM

I only went forward on the 400 that Dempsey used, I thought that's the amount of extra fans he said Motherwell had now.
That's pretty good for them, they deserve to get bigger crowds imo.

Dempsey · 07-03-2012 08:40PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

I only went forward on the 400 that Dempsey used, I thought that's the amount of extra fans he said Motherwell had now.

But my point remains, how many of those will come back if they, hypothetically, can't reach 2nd anymore ?

Did I? I dont think so and I told you that earlier that I didnt when you said that I did. :rolleyes:

bobmalooka · 07-03-2012 08:45PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

I only went forward on the 400 that Dempsey used, I thought that's the amount of extra fans he said Motherwell had now.

But my point remains, how many of those will come back if they, hypothetically, can't reach 2nd anymore ?

Well thats the challenge for Motherwell and other clubs, they will need to get 400 extra in to games each week to not miss Rangers.

Rangers have a strong fanbase in Motherwell, maybe a few of them will follow their local team when Rangers are gone.

The reason im pointing out the huge surge in support in Motherwell is that there is definitely an appetite for football in Scotland outside of the 'old firm', now is the time for the SFA and SPL to think outside of the 'old firm'.

Jelle1880 · 07-03-2012 08:53PM

Dempsey wrote: »

Did I? I dont think so and I told you that earlier that I didnt when you said that I did. :rolleyes:

So where did that 400x17 come from ?

bob: Nobody is denying that Scotland has a huge love for football, the attendance figures in the past (where even clubs like Aberdeen got 40k+) show that.
But teams like ICT, Dunfermline (if they manage to stay up, that is), Killie,... will struggle big time.

I don't think Hearts, Hibs,... will be in that much trouble, because they already have a decent home support to fall back on.

Dempsey · 07-03-2012 09:07PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

So where did that 400x17 come from ?

bob: Nobody is denying that Scotland has a huge love for football, the attendance figures in the past (where even clubs like Aberdeen got 40k+) show that.
But teams like ICT, Dunfermline (if they manage to stay up, that is), Killie,... will struggle big time.

I don't think Hearts, Hibs,... will be in that much trouble, because they already have a decent home support to fall back on.

All you have to do is go back a page or 2 and you'll see who suggested the 400 number. You even quoted the post. It wasnt me though, how many times does that have to be said to you?

lubo_moravcik · 07-03-2012 09:14PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Dempsey wrote: »

Did I? I dont think so and I told you that earlier that I didnt when you said that I did. :rolleyes:

So where did that 400x17 come from ?

bob: Nobody is denying that Scotland has a huge love for football, the attendance figures in the past (where even clubs like Aberdeen got 40k+) show that.
But teams like ICT, Dunfermline (if they manage to stay up, that is), Killie,... will struggle big time.

I don't think Hearts, Hibs,... will be in that much trouble, because they already have a decent home support to fall back on.

Killies biggest home attendance is always against you lot. When you cease to exist I see Killies support increase nicely as there would be a strong base of rangers fans down that way now going to Rugby Park.

Jelle1880 · 07-03-2012 09:17PM

Dempsey wrote: »

All you have to do is go back a page or 2 and you'll see who suggested the 400 number. You even quoted the post. It wasnt me though, how many times does that have to be said to you?

I know it was bobmalooka, but you still used it in your calculation.
I'd like to know where he got that number from by the way.

lubo: I don't think that will happen, if Rangers are completely gone (which I doubt will happen anyway) then I believe that most fans will either stop following football or start watching the EPL (or whatever competition is on tv).

born2bwild · 07-03-2012 09:28PM

I'd say that Barcelona are pretty relieved that Rangers are getting kicked out of Europe.

Dempsey · 07-03-2012 09:32PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

I know it was bobmalooka, but you still used it in your calculation.
I'd like to know where he got that number from by the way.

lubo: I don't think that will happen, if Rangers are completely gone then I believe that most fans will either stop following football or start watching the EPL (or whatever competition is on tv).

I took his number and multiplied by the average number of 'Well home league games per season in the SPL, hardly my calculation. Looks like I'll have to explain basic math to you aswell :rolleyes:

Mal-Adjusted · 07-03-2012 09:33PM

7-1 says otherwise.

Jelle1880 · 07-03-2012 09:43PM

born2bwild wrote: »

I'd say that Barcelona are pretty relieved that Rangers are getting kicked out of Europe.

David Weir frowns upon that defensive performance of Leverkusen.

nordydan · 07-03-2012 10:16PM

born2bwild wrote: »

I'd say that Barcelona are pretty relieved that Rangers are getting kicked out of Europe.

Messi is alright, but he's no Andrew Little!

lubo_moravcik · 07-03-2012 10:25PM

nordydan wrote: »

born2bwild wrote: »

I'd say that Barcelona are pretty relieved that Rangers are getting kicked out of Europe.

Messi is alright, but he's no Andrew Little!

He's no John Fleck

lubo_moravcik · 07-03-2012 10:51PM

http://radiofanjeeta.blogspot.com/2012/03/lord-of-manor-whyte.html @tommyinglasgow

the realpigiron · 08-03-2012 12:47AM

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

http://radiofanjeeta.blogspot.com/2012/03/lord-of-manor-whyte.html @tommyinglasgow

100% correct, those two guys telling it like it is. Rangers FC have been involved in an almighty scam of epic proportions.

In any other country they would be demoted to the bottom tier of the game, in the way that clubs like Fiorentina were and Juventus were also demoted a division in Italy for example. Rangers should also have numerous titles struck off the record.

Quite unbelievable what has gone on at that club, and the corruption is likely to continue because proper justice is unlikely to be meted out to Rangers FC. UEFA should be - and I'm sure are - keeping a close monitor on what's happening there at Rangers and how the SFA are handling it or not as the case may be.

Jelle1880 · 08-03-2012 12:52AM

Maybe Phil can write them a letter again.

the realpigiron · 08-03-2012 12:59AM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Maybe Phil can write them a letter again.

Rangers have been well and truly exposed as a sham, and they did it all on their own without any exposure from Phil or anyone else.

Jelle1880 · 08-03-2012 01:05AM

I was talking about UEFA.

Or will the Establishment within the SFA do absolutely nothing ?

Dempsey · 08-03-2012 01:07AM

:pac:

Jelle1880 · 08-03-2012 01:11AM

They probably stole that from somewhere

Dempsey · 08-03-2012 01:15AM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

They probably stole that from somewhere

Maybe they did but lets put that into perspective, shall we? Rangers stole millions from the British taxpayer and cheated Scottish Football clubs out of millions in prizemonies and titles.

Dempsey · 08-03-2012 01:22AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSBWI0NVmAg

Now the prospect of not finishing the season has been admitted by the admins? FFS

Jelle1880 · 08-03-2012 01:27AM

That's been mentioned before, though not as clearly.

If the 1m gap per month can't be bridged then obviously this will happen.

edit: Turned it off when Spiers came on, that guy is an idiot.
Can't get a decent job at a paper, so why do they keep inviting him ?

Rangers FC lodge papers to go into administration

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