(US) Town set to ban smoking ANYWHERE outside... even in your own backyard

RachaelVO · 01-03-2012 02:00PM

El Pistolero wrote: »

There should be a ban on not quoting the article in a link.

For mobile users.

+1

That and the fact that I won't click some links cos I'm fecked if I'll give em the page views, and the mail is one of em!

Back on OT, was always likely to happen, give it time and it'll hit the maniacal anti smokers of Europe!

Love2love · 01-03-2012 02:01PM

St Vincent's Hospital, Dublin also has a smoke-free campus. Seems to be working well.

They can do what they want - I'm off them a month tomorrow

01-03-2012 02:03PM

44leto wrote: »

I seen that in a toilet in Beaumont it was the weirdest thing I ever seen I end up staring, I then went outside for a smoke to ease the shock.

Sick isnt it! You would think its time to give up the fags when a doctor drills a hole in your windpipe..

The King of Moo · 01-03-2012 02:04PM

mickgotsick wrote: »

Apparently you have to quote the article as well, or you'll get given out to by that lad El Pist or whatever his name is.

Here's the article for mobile users:

Some eejits decided that some other eejits shouldn't be smoking in or around Galway somewhere. There's some sort of a hospital involved.

You don't think it's a good idea to ban smoking in hospitals and on their grounds?

I've had to visit the hospital a few times recently and I couldn't believe the number of people smoking in doorways.

It's not particularly healthy to have to walk through a cloud of smoke to get into a hospital.

And for the hospital it doesn't exactly look good to have people being seen so publicly engaging in something so unhealthy on the premises.

I also don't see how the heaviest chain smoker, even if they're in hospital for something unrelated to smoking, doesn't find it absurd to be smoking either in a hospital or on its premises.

I can't believe a policy like the one they're introducing in these hospitals hasn't been implemented nationwide already.

amacachi · 01-03-2012 02:05PM

Surely they realise that if people smoke inside the smoke will still escape at some point?

44leto · 01-03-2012 02:12PM

Edz87 wrote: »

Sick isnt it! You would think its time to give up the fags when a doctor drills a hole in your windpipe..

It was and to spite visiting my mother in the ward where they dealt with breathing difficulties for months, most them were smokers or x smokers bar my mother, I still went on smoking for another few years.

mickgotsick · 01-03-2012 02:32PM

The King of Moo wrote: »

You don't think it's a good idea to ban smoking in hospitals and on their grounds?

I've had to visit the hospital a few times recently and I couldn't believe the number of people smoking in doorways.

It's not particularly healthy to have to walk through a cloud of smoke to get into a hospital.

And for the hospital it doesn't exactly look good to have people being seen so publicly engaging in something so unhealthy on the premises.

I also don't see how the heaviest chain smoker, even if they're in hospital for something unrelated to smoking, doesn't find it absurd to be smoking either in a hospital or on its premises.

I can't believe a policy like the one they're introducing in these hospitals hasn't been implemented nationwide already.

Where do I say it's a bad idea?

Rented Mule · 01-03-2012 02:43PM

They can take my smokes when they pry them from my cold dead hands !!!

Actually, I quit smoking 12 years ago, but never let that get in the way of a good story.

RichieC · 01-03-2012 02:45PM

The concept of public space is dying rapidly in the US, and freedom will die with it.

hondasam · 01-03-2012 02:50PM

The King of Moo wrote: »

You don't think it's a good idea to ban smoking in hospitals and on their grounds?

I can't believe a policy like the one they're introducing in these hospitals hasn't been implemented nationwide already.

The worst thing is the patients outside the main door in dressing gowns smoking this I think is terrible. I am a smoker myself and know it's hard to give them up even if in hospital.
I wonder how it works for a workers point of view, where do they go to smoke.
I think a ban on smoking in all work places would be good.

Run_to_da_hills · 01-03-2012 02:53PM

GrafenPills wrote: »

This is shocking! :eek:

..... Shocking that Ireland doesnt bring this in before anywhere else :rolleyes:

I wouldn't be surprised if it was drafted into this country. We were also the first country in Europe to introduce the prohibition on pub smoking after it was introduced into New York city.

smash · 01-03-2012 02:56PM

I think it's a step in the right direction. And that's coming from a smoker.

Chuck Stone · 01-03-2012 02:59PM

Edz87 wrote: »

Waterford Regional Hospital has a total ban on smoking anywhere in the grounds too.

I'm a smoker myself but I think it is a really good Idea.

I'm a former smoker (not the evangelical type, the horrible bastards) and think it's not a bad idea myself.

There's a large Tesco near me and the staff smoke outside the front door in the evenings and there are fag butts everywhere and it's quite disgusting.

It's not the staff's fault though - there must be no smoking area provided out the back by Tesco.

Banning smoking in public spaces is just going too far imo.

01-03-2012 03:00PM

smash wrote: »

I think it's a step in the right direction. And that's coming from a smoker.

Traitor.

The King of Moo · 01-03-2012 03:03PM

mickgotsick wrote: »

Where do I say it's a bad idea?

I assumed that was your opinion because you called the people behind it "eejits."

2ndcoming · 01-03-2012 03:05PM

patwicklow wrote: »

There is a link im not a mobile user so why would it be up to me to provide them with a link

Spoken like a true Daily Mail reader...

Bannasidhe · 01-03-2012 03:16PM

Some US towns already ban smoking outside within certain radius of buildings - which in urban areas is effectively a town wide ban. Back in 1993 while driving from Boston to Northampton in eastern Mass on the Turnpike we stopped off in the town of Chicopee for lunch. After we placed our order we told our waiter we would be right outside the window having a smoke only to be informed that was illegal to smoke outside within the city limits. We thought he was joking.
He did say that he thought it would be ok to smoke in the car (rental with a $150 fine if we smoked in it) as long as we kept the windows closed. Feck this says us and off we went. Just after we had lit up the waiter knocked on the window so we began to puff furiously thinking the food was ready. Not a bit of it - he wanted to know if he could join us.

In Mount Holyoke College in Eastern Mass one has to be at least 500 yards from any permanent structure before smoking. After much measuring it was eventually determined that the only place on campus one could smoke was under one particular tree. As you nearly had to be in the tree or campus security would be there to issue a fine, queues used to form...:rolleyes:

gamgsam · 01-03-2012 03:17PM

The only subsequent (il)logical result is the following scenario:

Burglar burgles house. Houseowner wakes up, hears a noise. Sparks a cigarette to relax and goes to investigate. Burglar then sues the houseowner for endangering his health.

Haha

D1stant · 01-03-2012 03:20PM

Sindri wrote: »

In fairness, if it's for health benefits, why not ban cars?

Why stop there. The only way to protect the innocent in this god forsaken dangerous world is to ban childbirth

Son Of A Vidic · 01-03-2012 03:25PM

georgiecasey wrote: »

Well it should be banned in all public places, I hate walking behind a smoker and getting wafts of the putrid smell or at a bus-stop.

Try passing them out or crossing the road, because it works for me all the time.

snowgal · 01-03-2012 04:23PM

ridiculous idea, it better not come in to this country. tho knowing us it'll be maon moan, no way and then 3 months later we're all stuck smoking indoors for life. aggggh

Nothingbetter2d · 01-03-2012 04:40PM

lol if they passed that law i'd say there would be a fairly substantial drop in population, jobs, and tourism. Gotta love them crazy yanks.

Ellis Dee · 01-03-2012 04:53PM

Put prohibitive taxes on fags and ban them everywhere. Ireland needs a new growth industry, a new success story to inspire young people - and cigarette smuggling and bootlegging has the potential to create many new millionaires.:rolleyes:

Here's a Wikipedia article about a country that is way ahead of either the US or Ireland when it comes to trying to ban snout, but I have the feeling that - like so many other things in the Himalayan kingdom - it isn't quite working out as planned. Besides, it beats me how anyone would want to smoke tobacco there when you think of the much more enjoyable alternative smoke that is available.

Bhutan

Following a resolution of the 87th session of the National Assembly on 17 December 2004, a national prohibition upon the sale of tobacco and tobacco products went into effect, but importing limited tobacco would still be permitted with very heavy taxes. Smoking in all public places in Bhutan became illegal on 22 February 2005. It thus became the first nation in the world to outlaw this practice outright. However, there is little enforcement. Cigarettes are widely smuggled, and bars in the Bhutanese capital Thimphu are usually smoky.

The National Council decided on 10 July 2009 to lift the bar upon the sale of tobacco and tobacco products while discussing the tobacco control bill.

The council, with a majority, agreed to delete the section C in chapter three of the bill, which says, “No person shall sell tobacco and tobacco products.” The council chairperson, Namgay Penjore, said that they discussed including a new clause to control the sale of tobacco and tobacco products through pricing.

Council members said that the bar upon sales had been ineffective and led to a black market. Some said tobacco was easily available anywhere, but at exorbitant prices because of the ineffective restrictions.

“The idea is to make tobacco expensive by imposing higher taxes,” said the chairperson. The name of the bill is “Tobacco control bill” and not ‘… ban’. “The change (deleting the clause) was to do away with the thriving black market,” he said.

Meanwhile, the council also suggested inserting another clause restricting the sale of tobacco products to youth below 18 years. However, Namgay Penjore said the bill was still under discussion and not endorsed. The bill will be submitted to the National Assembly.

3 June 2010
According to the bill, people selling tobacco products will be punished for the offence of misdemeanour liable for a prison term of one to three years. Smuggling tobacco products into the country will be punished for the offence of felony of fourth degree liable for prison term of three to five years. However, the bill was passed with 61 “yes” votes and five “no” votes. Bhutan Narcotic Control Agency (BNCA) will serve as the secretariat of the tobacco control office and its board members will also be the board members of the tobacco control board, according to the Health Minister. The tobacco control board, among other functions, will provide effective leadership and coordination in implementing the act, formulate and implement national tobacco control strategy, monitor the enforcement of the provisions under the act and approve rules framed under the act. The Health Minister said that, once His Majesty gives his assent to the bill, the rules and regulations will be drafted

housetypeb · 01-03-2012 04:57PM

JupiterKid wrote: »

It had to happen - it's being going in that direction for a long time now. Another Californian community, Calabasas, already bans smoking in public areas outdoors.

I remember one time having a meal with my in-laws in Calabasas, the restaurant straddled the next district where smoking was allowed, so when dining outside you had the funny situation where you could legally smoke at one end of the table but not at the other end.

Wetai · 01-03-2012 05:23PM

gamgsam wrote: »

The only subsequent (il)logical result is the following scenario:

Burglar burgles house. Houseowner wakes up, hears a noise. Sparks a cigarette to relax and goes to investigate. Burglar then sues the houseowner for endangering his health.

Haha

It'd be inevitable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeXQBHLIPcw

(US) Town set to ban smoking ANYWHERE outside... even in your own backyard

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