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The Ireland Visit Of China Vice President Xi Jinping

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭Ellis Dee


    Freddie59 wrote: »
    Will be carefully choreographed - with NO questions from the media.


    I didn't see them putting many questions to the aul Windsor wan during her visit, either.:):)

    As for that Chinese chap, for goodness sake don't ask him about elections in China. Questions like that could onry cause a rot of ploblems.:rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭Sonnenblumen


    A good opp to check out Ireland's booming Chinese Massage Parlour industry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Xi Jinping - "Would you like to discuss Tibet?"

    Enda - "I only discuss Tibets with Paddy Power, your highness"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    Ok he's here

    someone put the kettle on and order a chinese


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭EarlERizer


    Enda on the phone to 'The Golden Handshake' - "eh ,sorry lads ders been a bit of a mistake here, we ordered the large deal, ya sent the small one for feck sake, Xi's here chewing the bejaysus outta his fingers" ............ "and we got no prawn crackers"


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    fryup wrote: »
    Ok he's here

    someone put the kettle on and order a chinese


    He shall have some ti bits with mongolian sauce and some aultaiwan thrown in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 ronanos


    Hi,

    Does anybody know what time the flight leaves Shannon tomorrow? I want to get some photos.

    Thanks,
    Ronan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭Archeron


    They gave him a piece of bog bark??? No offence to bog bark artists, but for fooks sake. I thought a waterford crystal model of the great wall would have more impact. I've given better gifts on the birthdays of people I dont like.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    We're the base that they're gonna launch an invasion of Europe from.

    O no.
    We may be their new European supplier though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭Marcus_Crassus


    LOL at the picture of the wolfhounds "welcoming" him. He probably had them for supper.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 82 ✭✭CajunOnTour


    I wasn't here on boards when Queen Lizzie and O'Bama were here visiting to hysterical uncritical acclaim from the Establishment and meeja, so maybe there was the same mindless waffle about "human rights".

    But O'Bama/Queen represent two countries that have slaughtered perhaps two million people, innocent men women and children, through invasion, bombing and sanctions - in over half a dozen Muslim countries in the past decade alone.

    (they threw in torture, hostage taking, concentration camps and other crimes against humanity during the course of this rape and pillage - and it continues - even as the scribblers whine about China).

    Could there be a hint of racism in this bizarrely morally dysfunctional reaction to Mr Xi? Heaven forbid! :rolleyes:

    In the past ten years China has no such record of savage aggression and mass murder; though it has lifted 400 million people out of poverty and eliminated endemic famine - even as "the West" pushes tens of millions who are within reach of it's killers into dire poverty.

    You gotta laugh :pac::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭pavb2




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    Enda has been invited back to China now apparently. They might be good and keep him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    A handful of practitioners of Falun Gong and activists for a Free Tibet protested outside Dublin castle against the state visit of Chinese Vice-President Xi Jinping to Ireland. A second group of protesters protested against the occupation of Tibet by China and called for an withdrawal of China from Tibet.With its huge human right abuses and control of its media and Internet etc not to mention its aggressive albeit stealth foreign policy, Why was there not more bigger protests ? Is it because china might be giving us a massive boost to our economy with jobs and investment ?and why was there no threads on here criticising china are we afraid to slap the hand that might feed us ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    It's probably because no one gives a toss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    It's probably because no one gives a toss.

    Yeah and coz they have money too.

    How many human rights abusees have money? None that's how! Sure that's no good to anyone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 609 ✭✭✭Dubit10


    People at the end of the day don't care about human rights abuse once they have a flat screen on their wall and petrol in their car etc... I'm alright Jack, it's the way the world works.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭LostCorkGuy


    I for one welcome our future chinese overlords :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,310 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    realies wrote: »
    Is it because china might be giving us a massive boost to our economy with jobs and investment ?
    China is pretty much the world bank: everyone seems to owe it money. The chinese also want our knowledge on raising those four legged animals that go moo when they poo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,244 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Last time I saw a China-related protest, it was tied in with that Falun Gong bollocks. Someone in China was persecuted for evangelising Falun Gong, ergo Falun Gong is real? Logic fail.

    Government resting upon the will and universal suffrage of the people has no anchorage except in the people's intelligence.

    — Grover Cleveland



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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,554 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    people only care when america and israel do badf things, the rest of the world can make nooses to hang babies out of kitten fur and no one will give a ****


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭AeoNGriM


    Probably lack of awareness. I'd say most people didn't know he was coming and fewer still are aware of the persecution of Falun Gong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


    realies wrote: »
    Is it because china might be giving us a massive boost to our economy with jobs and investment ?and why was there no threads on here criticising china are we afraid to slap the hand that might feed us ?

    Eh, yeah?! Let's not say A WORD that might offend them :pac:

    I'm all for the harvesting of human organs anyway, I might need a cheap one someday.

    Most people in China don't seem to realise how manipulated/curtailed their civil liberties are, and they're happy enough that they're getting richer I think. And as a country, they're very hard for the rest of us to stand up to, because they're so powerful. And because they don't give a t&ss what anyone else thinks of their machiavellian practices. Any serious changes to China's human rights practices will only come from within I think, and that could still take decades.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


    people only care when america and israel do badf things, the rest of the world can make nooses to hang babies out of kitten fur and no one will give a ****

    No, the difference is that America and Israel act like they care what the rest of us think about them, whereas China is far more difficult to engage with because they ignore any criticism and deny that any problems exist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    realies wrote: »
    A handful of practitioners of Falun Gong and activists for a Free Tibet protested outside Dublin castle against the state visit of Chinese Vice-President Xi Jinping to Ireland. A second group of protesters protested against the occupation of Tibet by China and called for an withdrawal of China from Tibet.With its huge human right abuses and control of its media and Internet etc not to mention its aggressive albeit stealth foreign policy, Why was there not more bigger protests ? Is it because china might be giving us a massive boost to our economy with jobs and investment ?and why was there no threads on here criticising china are we afraid to slap the hand that might feed us ?

    Were you out protesting? If not, why not?

    There's your answer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    Its probably because they invented chicken balls and curry sauce


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Eh, yeah?! Let's not say A WORD that might offend them :pac:

    I'm all for the harvesting of human organs anyway, I might need a cheap one someday.

    Most people in China don't seem to realise how manipulated/curtailed their civil liberties are, and they're happy enough that they're getting richer I think. And as a country, they're very hard for the rest of us to stand up to, because they're so powerful. And because they don't give a t&ss what anyone else thinks of their machiavellian practices. Any serious changes to China's human rights practices will only come from within I think, and that could still take decades.

    I think people in China are quite aware of how they are controlled by the government. I dont think you can write off a nation the size of china by saying the people simply dont know.
    There are more than enough educated people with access to the internet to be quite aware of the world and Chinas current position in it living in that nation.

    I would say the ignorance is quite in the opposite direction. For most in the west, China is far away, mysterious and not really a threat. We are happy to ignore its domestic issues so long as they continue to send us cheap electronics stamped with "Made in China".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,952 ✭✭✭Lando Griffin


    You see Mr Jinping is only stopping off in Ireland and for very good reason.
    We dont do protests, unlike most of our Euro counterparts we tend to get on with it, and Mr Jinping acknowledged this in his speech in Dublin Castle. This fact along with the fact that they are intrested in saving the Eurozone means that for once Europe can trust us with getting something right when grovelling for money.
    From the outside looking in we think China is a very bad country, but there is opportunity for people who work hard to get rewarded, and those who dont get nothing. Is not this what AH people want from what I read in Ah those on the Dole are scroungers etc.
    There are very few people allowled to immergrate into China, another great AH pro, think of all the jobs we would have here in Ireland if this was the case.
    Sure there human rights may come into question, but at least when there is Natural resourses waiting to be exploited they waste no time in getting them, fair enough a village or town may be uprouted but its not as if they dont relocate them. Again AH would love this, Fracking in Leitrim and onshore processing in Mayo would be now possible.
    Do you think papers like the Sunday Indo, The Sun etc would be allowled, no sire bob. Think of the AH discussions without the Celeb manure we a made swollow with these papers, then again those who do not work would not be able to afford them.
    Religion is banned, so what, look what we have achieved with a religious state in this Country.
    Birth per family controlled, I mean who in there right mind wants 7 - 8 childeren, again another AH topical discussion about welfare and the amount of kids born to those not working.
    These Chinese may be on to something.
    I for one say 你好,欢迎欢迎.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


    I think people in China are quite aware of how they are controlled by the government. I dont think you can write off a nation the size of china by saying the people simply dont know.
    There are more than enough educated people with access to the internet to be quite aware of the world and Chinas current position in it living in that nation.

    Only the people in mainland China don't have access to the actual internet, they have access to about half of it, because the rest of it is blocked or censored. If you're in China, consuming the news, you would think everything is near perfect. The newspapers are just bizarre, there's no criticism, no analysis, no discussion of problems that exist, except at a very superficial and non threatening level. The few who do speak out (often from the West, or having spent a lot of time in the West) are shut down immediately. It's a horrific place to be a dissenter.

    And I really do think that the majority of the people in China are completely brainwashed about a lot of issues. Like Tibet, most obviously. Most of the population really believe Tibet is part of China and can't understand at any level why they would (or would even want to) see themselves as a separate entity. They see themselves as a benevolent influence. Whereas the reality of what China has done to crush Tibet and it's people is truly awful.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Only the people in mainland China don't have access to the actual internet, they have access to about half of it, because the rest of it is blocked or censored. If you're in China, consuming the news, you would think everything is near perfect. The newspapers are just bizarre, there's no criticism, no analysis, no discussion of problems that exist, except at a very superficial and non threatening level. The few who do speak out (often from the West, or having spent a lot of time in the West) are shut down immediately. It's a horrific place to be a dissenter.

    And I really do think that the majority of the people in China are completely brainwashed about a lot of issues. Like Tibet, most obviously. Most of the population really believe Tibet is part of China and can't understand at any level why they would (or would even want to) see themselves as a separate entity. They see themselves as a benevolent influence. Whereas the reality of what China has done to crush Tibet and it's people is truly awful.

    Were the English press not censored by court decisions?
    Do the Irish media often come out with scathing attacks on our society and its ills?

    While China does indeed block many areas of the net, I never found any difficulty in accessing any of the western media sites I usually read, so Im unsure about what you think China is capable of stopping its people from finding out.

    Can I ask you have you visited China or spoken to many chinese people, because I find this statment "the majority of the people in China are completely brainwashed about a lot of issues" to be silly to make when speaking about 1.2 billion people.


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