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Has Ireland ever had any serial killers?

  • 10-02-2012 10:07PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭


    I think Larry Murphy is the closest we have to one and he hasnt been proven guilty of the murders of those women yet. So other than him has there ever been any serial killers in Ireland?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    Looking for tips?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭MyKeyG


    Do some of them IRA lads not count?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,242 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    it doesnt have ones dumb enough to get caught


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,816 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Are you going to try and break the record?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭InkSlinger67


    Who could ever forget the bb1234567 massacre of '97


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,451 ✭✭✭Lord Trollington


    In fairness Larry hasn't been found guilty of any murder. How can you call him a serial Killer or equate him to one?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭lividduck


    John Shaw and Geoffrey Evans


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,098 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    You'll find the Roman Catholic clergy were pretty good at killing, however it wasn't a fair fight as they usually brutalised young children before then killing them. The Christian brothers killed around 150 young children in Letterfrack alone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Johnny kellogg's is always lurking around especially in the mornings.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    When they changed CocoPops to Choco Krispies, that killed the serial for me...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Suspected but not prosecuted in Cork City.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Probably, but it's difficult to identify serial killers in times of conflict.

    The bodies either just get lost in the mess, different groups claim responsibility for the deaths or the serial killers join one of the groups.

    In more recent history nothing has been proven afaik, but I'd find it hard to believe there haven't been a few hanging around.


    Edit - No Pun intended re: Chuck Stone's link above.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭theg81der


    In fairness Larry hasn't been found guilty of any murder. How can you call him a serial Killer or equate him to one?

    And we have no evidence of you having a fap, but you did didn`t you!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭John Doe1


    not wanting to be libelous but ray foley


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭EGAR


    Brendan O'Donnell who killed a mother and her child as well as a priest, near Whitegate in County Clare.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭M cebee




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    EGAR wrote: »
    Brendan O'Donnell who killed a mother and her child as well as a priest, near Whitegate in County Clare.

    Think he's considered a spree killer as oppose to a serial killer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭EGAR


    Seachmall wrote: »
    Think he's considered a spree killer as oppose to a serial killer.


    There are still question marks about his time in the UK and a few unsolved murders in that area.

    However, he was certainly mentally disturbed and neither cunning nor did he hide his tracks very well and let's not forget he tried to kidnap another girl who luckily escaped from him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Shankill Butchers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭John Doe1


    stovelid wrote: »
    Shankill Butchers.

    damn good steak they do


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    John Doe1 wrote: »
    damn good steak they do

    Not the most hygienic though. I heard the head butcher was riddled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Depending on what criteria you use Malcolm Macarthur could be considered one.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Serial killer specialize and use a particular modus operandi to kill.
    Murderers who just pick on someone willy nilly are not serial killers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    FTR.
    A serial killer is typically defined as an individual who has murdered three or more people over a period of more than a month, with down time (a "cooling off period") between the murders, and whose motivation for killing is usually based on psychological gratification.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    TV3


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭theg81der


    I heard of a woman who is dead now who murdered 3 people over a period of 10 years to get her hands on the family she married into money. Of course then there was no tests etc so she was never caught.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Actually, the shankill butchers did carry out highly ritualistic murders with a political pretext that was flimsy even by loyalist standards. The murders involved ritually patterned sadism and torture and other ritualistic touches such as trademark weapons and murder method (slit throats) not to mention the very small geographical area in which they preyed on solitary victims - most of whom were young to middle aged men.

    Perhaps our reluctance to categorize them as serial killers stems from the fact that it would lead us to ask ourselves whether or not conflict often provides ideological cover under which born killers operate. Even some of the guerilla fighters that many of us seek to justify and valorise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    Mary Harney.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    stovelid wrote: »
    Perhaps our reluctance to categorize them as serial killers stems from the fact that it would lead us to ask ourselves whether or not conflict often provides ideological cover under which born killers operate. Even some of the guerilla fighters that many of us seek to justify and valorise.
    Not just the Nazis but many ordinary frontline soldiers of the Wehrmacht took pleasure in killing civillians knowing full well that they had a free hand to do so .
    Every army or military active organisation in the world , legal or otherwise has it share of sadists and phycopaths ...including the Mafia .


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