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Would you apply to be an Executioner?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    Davidth88 wrote: »
    Interestingly , there is a connection between executions ( hanging specifically ) and Dublin Zoo .... 10 pts if you can name it !


    To the OP, no , I couldn't do it, don't Dr's in the US have ethical problems with the lethal injection because it's against their oath or something ?

    People were executed there?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Stiffler2


    maiden wrote: »
    After reading some stories in AH that create huge emotion and IF the death penalty was brought back in, would you seriously:

    apply for the job and what qualities do you think would be needed to successfully carry out the job??

    Would you only do it, if it was an injection or would you be able to do it if it was hanging?????


    Ye - that'd be a job I'd probably enjoy. Any method you like, you choose.

    Hanging
    Injection
    Electricution
    hung drawn and quartered - My personal Fav - ( Bravefart style )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    Oh yeah, I would be like this



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 223 ✭✭miguelk


    Davidth88 wrote: »
    Interestingly , there is a connection between executions ( hanging specifically ) and Dublin Zoo .... 10 pts if you can name it !



    The guy who figured out how to hang a lad in just the right way (i.e. no heads popping off, no strangulation, just a broken neck) - he used to be the main man in Dublin Zoo or on the board or similar.

    There's a plaque dedicated to him on one of the buildings which I believe carries his name.

    The story is on this plaque, I read it a few years ago.

    Always a good "did you know" story which no one ever seems to believe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Davidth88


    Sindri wrote: »
    People were executed there?

    May be true , but again , not the connection I was looking for ...... The connection I was looking for is to do specifically with hanging.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Davidth88


    miguelk wrote: »
    The guy who figured out how to hang a lad in just the right way (i.e. no heads popping off, no strangulation, just a broken neck) - he used to be the main man in Dublin Zoo or on the board or similar.

    There's a plaque dedicated to him on one of the buildings which I believe carries his name.

    The story is on this plaque, I read it a few years ago.

    Always a good "did you know" story which no one ever seems to believe.

    And a CLEAR 10 pts goes to Miguelk !!!!

    Indeed there is a building dedicated to him , which was recently renovated and opened by a certain B Ahern .

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Haughton

    The building in question being Haughton Hse

    OP , My apologies for dragging thread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    If it operated on a salary basis no matter how many people I executed then probably not, unless it was around a 100K. But if it was salary + commissioning pay for people executed, yeah I would. The people are gonna die anyway, I support the death penalty, I'm assuming that the people would have been found guilty by a court of law beyond all reasonable doubt and have exhausted 2 or 3 appeals. Then it's just a case of maths.

    I'm a very liberal person, but some people commit crimes so awful that they should be killed rather than waste resources on them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 223 ✭✭miguelk


    Davidth88 wrote: »
    And a CLEAR 10 pts goes to Miguelk !!!!

    Indeed there is a building dedicated to him , which was recently renovated and opened by a certain B Ahern .

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Haughton

    The building in question being Haughton Hse

    OP , My apologies for dragging thread


    woohoo!!
    Now just to find a reputable retailer/zoo/executioner that will accept these points as legal tender


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Davidth88


    miguelk wrote: »
    woohoo!!
    Now just to find a reputable retailer/zoo/executioner that will accept these points as legal tender

    Don't be HANGING around too long looking for it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 223 ✭✭miguelk


    If it operated on a salary basis no matter how many people I executed then probably not, unless it was around a 100K. But if it was salary + commissioning pay for people executed, yeah I would. The people are gonna die anyway, I support the death penalty, I'm assuming that the people would have been found guilty by a court of law beyond all reasonable doubt and have exhausted 2 or 3 appeals. Then it's just a case of maths.

    I'm a very liberal person, but some people commit crimes so awful that they should be killed rather than waste resources on them.

    I hear ya, but I wouldn't be able to put the same faith in the legal system...or be confident in the assumption that those sentenced to execution are always guilty.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 330 ✭✭mongdesade


    miguelk wrote: »
    I hear ya, but I wouldn't be able to put the same faith in the legal system...or be confident in the assumption that those sentenced to execution are always guilty.

    As state executioner, faith in the justice system or the assumption of innocence/guilt would be of no concern...

    The job is to merely be the instrument of the powers that be in order to carry out judgement passed !

    Send me an application...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    How many TDs/Bankers/Property Developers do I get to execute?

    Probably none. But im sure you would be able to hang plenty of honest workers who fell on hard times


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,341 ✭✭✭Batsy


    Britain should bring back the death penalty.

    And I would apply for a job as an executioner. At the end of the day, a job is a job and I would gladly hang felons than live on the dole. It would probably also pay well, too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Batsy wrote: »
    Britain should bring back the death penalty.

    And I would apply for a job as an executioner. At the end of the day, a job is a job and I would gladly hang felons than live on the dole. It would probably also pay well, too.


    And what about the ones that work :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    If someone killed a member of my family or a loved one not related by blood and the justice system failed to hold them accountable i would track that person down and end their ****ing life.

    And that is exactly why i could not be an Executioner. The justice system is far from perfect, it's an unfortunate fact that sometimes the guilty will walk free and an innocent person will go to jail.

    If i was going to be the embodiment of the pointy end of the justice system i would need to know that it was 100% accurate, which is impossible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,989 ✭✭✭Noo


    Batsy wrote: »
    Britain should bring back the death penalty.

    And I would apply for a job as an executioner. At the end of the day, a job is a job and I would gladly hang felons than live on the dole. It would probably also pay well, too.

    Death by snoo snoo?



    Damn you edited your post!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Sindri wrote: »
    There were families of executioners from around Ireland and England who all inter married as no one else would marry them.


    :) They were all dying to tie the knot :D;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,299 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    How many TDs/Bankers/Property Developers do I get to execute?

    This is Ireland.

    0.

    :(


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Sindri wrote: »
    There were families of executioners from around Ireland and England who all inter married as no one else would marry them.
    And in France too. They became quite inbred.
    seamus wrote: »
    At the moment, it's the only form of humane execution. All other forms are violent and used to exact revenge rather than simply execute the person.
    I'd certainly not agree with that. Lethal injection can be anything but humane. It's more longwinded and drawn out for the victim and as doctors by law can't be present to carry out the setup, mistakes are often made. Ex drug users can have collapsed veins that make it difficult to find reliable insertion points for needles and different people can react differently to the drugs involved. The first drug is supposed to render the victim unconscious, the second paralyses them and the third kills them. On too many occasions the first drug has been observed not to work or wears off and the victim suffocates to death unable to signal the distress.

    The electric chair another once "scientific" method is worse again. The gas chamber was beyond cruel. Again another "scentific" one. The Americans seem to get the horn for that stuff. Guillotine? No way. It's seems pretty certain the head can stay capable of conscious thought and feelings of pain(imagine the pain of a neck severed :eek:) for up to 10 seconds after. Firing squad can be too inaccurate(no pun) and without a coup de grace can actually take some time. Stoning? well that's for the savages.

    Of the current methods if it was me for the chop? Long drop hanging and no mistake. Very quick from the time the cell door opens, half a second to the end of the rope followed by instant deep coma/unconsciousness and brain death soon after.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭Bad Panda


    maiden wrote: »
    I seriously think I could flick the switch on this guy and walk away and NEVER have a regret about it, but if I had to hang him or behead him, no way I couldn't do it.

    Just let the guillotine take care of the beheading..just flick a switch on that badboy...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭who the fug


    Bad Panda wrote: »
    Just let the guillotine take care of the beheading..just flick a switch on that badboy...

    Just don't put your fingers, near the heads mouth afterwards, they bite :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭wilkie2006


    maiden wrote: »
    After reading some stories in AH that create huge emotion and IF the death penalty was brought back in, would you seriously:

    apply for the job and what qualities do you think would be needed to successfully carry out the job??

    Would you only do it, if it was an injection or would you be able to do it if it was hanging?????

    I dunno. What are the hours?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    i dont get why executions like lethal injection, the electric chair and hanging are actually done. surely they're very expensive and needlessly long and drawn out compared to a point blank bullet to the head

    like, you wouldn't even physically need someone there to pull a trigger. surely in this day and age it's a piece of piss to build a machine that the person sits in and has a bolt/bullet shot through their brain killing them instantly, without making much of a mess


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    Helix wrote: »
    i dont get why executions like lethal injection, the electric chair and hanging are actually done. surely they're very expensive and needlessly long and drawn out compared to a point blank bullet to the head

    like, you wouldn't even physically need someone there to pull a trigger. surely in this day and age it's a piece of piss to build a machine that the person sits in and has a bolt/bullet shot through their brain killing them instantly, without making much of a mess

    The average cost of an execution is somewhere around 2 million dollars in the states. The actual process itself doesn't matter...the expense is from the countless man hours spent in court across various appeals.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    The average cost of an execution is somewhere around 2 million dollars in the states. The actual process itself doesn't matter...the expense is from the countless man hours spent in court across various appeals.

    that's not the cost of execution though, that's the cost of trials :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    Helix wrote: »
    that's not the cost of execution though, that's the cost of trials :confused:

    Which only exist due to death sentence. All that cost is down to trials and appeals that occur after the initial trial and sentencing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    Could I do some torture before the execution, if not... I'm not interested.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    You are aware that all that all the talk of torture/murder fantasies is absurd posturing on the part of the posters, aye?

    "If anyone ever did that to MY CHILDREN I'd cut their balls off then put the balls in a sock and beat them over the head with the ballsock then set the sock on fire and throw it at them then hit them in the legs with a big stick and then with the ballsock again. I'd happily do time for it."

    Internet hardmanery of the highest order.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    I might aswell apply for a job as a serial killer theres no real difference.

    Edit there are some cases were murder is understanable, not justifiable mind but understandable.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 798 ✭✭✭maiden


    Of course but thats part of AH!

    Could you hand on heart, apply for the job, accept the job, carry out the job and never have one tiny tiny regret?

    If someone was found innocent after being executed, would you shrug your shoulders and think well its a job and I did it, move on???


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