Would you apply to be an Executioner?

maiden

After reading some stories in AH that create huge emotion and IF the death penalty was brought back in, would you seriously:

apply for the job and what qualities do you think would be needed to successfully carry out the job??

Would you only do it, if it was an injection or would you be able to do it if it was hanging?????

Davidth88

Its a dying profession isn't it ?

Captain Havoc

No

Seachmall

No. Wouldn't be the job for me.

The hangman does more than just pull the lever or flick the switch by the way. When on a tour of Mountjoy in school a few years back (odd place for a school tour, I know) the tour guide/guard compared the job of the hangman to that of a bungee jumping expert.

He has to work out the length and "give" of the rope based on the height and weight of the individual to maximise "efficiency" of the execution (i.e. as quick a death as possible) as the executioner is ultimately responsible for any failed executions.

Dartz

Get paid to do something I'd happily do for free?

foxyboxer

kfallon

maiden wrote: »

After reading some stories in AH that create huge emotion and IF the death penalty was brought back in, would you seriously:

apply for the job and what qualities do you think would be needed to successfully carry out the job??

Would you only do it, if it was an injection or would you be able to do it if it was hanging?????

Good at flicking a switch??

kiddums

It depends on the pay.

If its good pay you'd better have an application form in the post for me.

SEPT 23 1989

I would take great pleasure in flicking the switch on that animal who hurt that child

Agricola

Only if they brought back beheading. Love to try that out.

Defiler Of The Coffin

Sure a job's a job, can't be fussy these days.

Sindri

Davidth88 wrote: »

Its a dying profession isn't it ?

There were families of executioners from around Ireland and England who all inter married as no one else would marry them.

maiden

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

I would take great pleasure in flicking the switch on that animal who hurt that child

I seriously think I could flick the switch on this guy and walk away and NEVER have a regret about it, but if I had to hang him or behead him, no way I couldn't do it.

foxyboxer

I'd kill for a job like that.
I'm dead set on pursuing it.
But the hours might be murder.
etc
etc

*gets coat*

the groutch

How many TDs/Bankers/Property Developers do I get to execute?

seamus

Seachmall wrote: »

He has to work out the length and "give" of the rope based on the height and weight of the individual to maximise "efficiency" of the execution (i.e. as quick a death as possible) as the executioner is ultimately responsible for any failed executions.

It depends I suppose. If the executions are being carried out by lethal injection then the sums are simple and the apparatus can even be configured to look for key signs of life and inject more until death occurs.

At the moment, it's the only form of humane execution. All other forms are violent and used to exact revenge rather than simply execute the person.

A similarly foolproof method which is not used is nitrogen asphyxiation or oxygen deprivation. Both induce no pain or any other kind of suffering/reaction in the prisoner and you can easily set it up so that death is absolutely guaranteed.

But no I couldn't actually apply to be an executioner because I don't agree with using the death penalty due to the inherent imperfection of any justice system.

simit

Do Fas supply the training?

Davidth88

Interestingly , there is a connection between executions ( hanging specifically ) and Dublin Zoo .... 10 pts if you can name it !


To the OP, no , I couldn't do it, don't Dr's in the US have ethical problems with the lethal injection because it's against their oath or something ?

Encrypted Pigeon

Agricola wrote: »

Only if they brought back beheading. Love to try that out.

on yourself?

who the fug

When we go back to public hangings , I wants the catering and souvenir concessions

Seachmall

Davidth88 wrote: »

Interestingly , there is a connection between executions ( hanging specifically ) and Dublin Zoo .... 10 pts if you can name it !

The great, great granddaughter of Seamus Ahern, who had a short-lived career as an executioner in Mountjoy, currently works as PR manager for Dublin Zoo.

Gimme my points!

Run_to_da_hills

If the death penalty ever creeps back into Ireland it would be through the EU and it would be thanks to all that voted yes in the Lisbon Treaty. .

http://info-wars.org/2009/04/12/lisbon-treaty-allows-for-death-penalty-across-eu/

KTRIC

Well being the crayon wielding apathetic scumbag that I am I think I'd fit right in. Where do I send my CV ?

Davidth88

Seachmall wrote: »

The great, great granddaughter of Seamus Ahern, who had a short-lived career as an executioner in Mountjoy, currently works as PR manager for Dublin Zoo.

Gimme my points!

May be right , but not the connection I was looking for .

maiden

Capital punishment was abolished in 1990, not too long ago!

Reamer Fanny

Yes, but only if I can wear this cool gear

Seachmall

Davidth88 wrote: »

May be right , but not the connection I was looking for .

You should have been more specific about what you're looking for in your original post!

Gimme my points!!

Davidth88

Seachmall wrote: »

You should have been more specific about what you're looking for in your original post!

Gimme my points!!

10 pts to the person on the left , if it's true that's worth 10 pts , the original question still stands .

Seachmall

Davidth88 wrote: »

10 pts to the person on the left , if it's true that's worth 10 pts , the original question still stands .

As far as I'm aware It's not true.

NO BACKSIES!!

Chuck Stone

No. I'm 100% against the death penalty and I couldn't carry the guilt of killing another humming bean.

Johnnio13

what are the benefits like? Is there mileage? Health insurance?
Its not your average job, but if all you have to do is flick a switch or pull a lever behind a partition...where do I sign?

Sindri

Davidth88 wrote: »

Interestingly , there is a connection between executions ( hanging specifically ) and Dublin Zoo .... 10 pts if you can name it !


To the OP, no , I couldn't do it, don't Dr's in the US have ethical problems with the lethal injection because it's against their oath or something ?

People were executed there?

Stiffler2

maiden wrote: »

After reading some stories in AH that create huge emotion and IF the death penalty was brought back in, would you seriously:

apply for the job and what qualities do you think would be needed to successfully carry out the job??

Would you only do it, if it was an injection or would you be able to do it if it was hanging?????

Ye - that'd be a job I'd probably enjoy. Any method you like, you choose.

Hanging
Injection
Electricution
hung drawn and quartered - My personal Fav - ( Bravefart style )

jester77

Oh yeah, I would be like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gZ6-6RbSEg

miguelk

Davidth88 wrote: »

Interestingly , there is a connection between executions ( hanging specifically ) and Dublin Zoo .... 10 pts if you can name it !

The guy who figured out how to hang a lad in just the right way (i.e. no heads popping off, no strangulation, just a broken neck) - he used to be the main man in Dublin Zoo or on the board or similar.

There's a plaque dedicated to him on one of the buildings which I believe carries his name.

The story is on this plaque, I read it a few years ago.

Always a good "did you know" story which no one ever seems to believe.

Davidth88

Sindri wrote: »

People were executed there?

May be true , but again , not the connection I was looking for ...... The connection I was looking for is to do specifically with hanging.

Davidth88

miguelk wrote: »

The guy who figured out how to hang a lad in just the right way (i.e. no heads popping off, no strangulation, just a broken neck) - he used to be the main man in Dublin Zoo or on the board or similar.

There's a plaque dedicated to him on one of the buildings which I believe carries his name.

The story is on this plaque, I read it a few years ago.

Always a good "did you know" story which no one ever seems to believe.

And a CLEAR 10 pts goes to Miguelk !!!!

Indeed there is a building dedicated to him , which was recently renovated and opened by a certain B Ahern .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Haughton

The building in question being Haughton Hse

OP , My apologies for dragging thread

minidazzler

If it operated on a salary basis no matter how many people I executed then probably not, unless it was around a 100K. But if it was salary + commissioning pay for people executed, yeah I would. The people are gonna die anyway, I support the death penalty, I'm assuming that the people would have been found guilty by a court of law beyond all reasonable doubt and have exhausted 2 or 3 appeals. Then it's just a case of maths.

I'm a very liberal person, but some people commit crimes so awful that they should be killed rather than waste resources on them.

miguelk

Davidth88 wrote: »

And a CLEAR 10 pts goes to Miguelk !!!!

Indeed there is a building dedicated to him , which was recently renovated and opened by a certain B Ahern .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Haughton

The building in question being Haughton Hse

OP , My apologies for dragging thread

woohoo!!

Now just to find a reputable retailer/zoo/executioner that will accept these points as legal tender

Davidth88

miguelk wrote: »

woohoo!!

Now just to find a reputable retailer/zoo/executioner that will accept these points as legal tender

Don't be HANGING around too long looking for it

miguelk

minidazzler wrote: »

If it operated on a salary basis no matter how many people I executed then probably not, unless it was around a 100K. But if it was salary + commissioning pay for people executed, yeah I would. The people are gonna die anyway, I support the death penalty, I'm assuming that the people would have been found guilty by a court of law beyond all reasonable doubt and have exhausted 2 or 3 appeals. Then it's just a case of maths.

I'm a very liberal person, but some people commit crimes so awful that they should be killed rather than waste resources on them.

I hear ya, but I wouldn't be able to put the same faith in the legal system...or be confident in the assumption that those sentenced to execution are always guilty.

mongdesade

miguelk wrote: »

I hear ya, but I wouldn't be able to put the same faith in the legal system...or be confident in the assumption that those sentenced to execution are always guilty.

As state executioner, faith in the justice system or the assumption of innocence/guilt would be of no concern...

The job is to merely be the instrument of the powers that be in order to carry out judgement passed !

Send me an application...

Kidchameleon

the groutch wrote: »

How many TDs/Bankers/Property Developers do I get to execute?

Probably none. But im sure you would be able to hang plenty of honest workers who fell on hard times

Batsy

Britain should bring back the death penalty.

And I would apply for a job as an executioner. At the end of the day, a job is a job and I would gladly hang felons than live on the dole. It would probably also pay well, too.

Sunnyisland

Batsy wrote: »

Britain should bring back the death penalty.

And I would apply for a job as an executioner. At the end of the day, a job is a job and I would gladly hang felons than live on the dole. It would probably also pay well, too.

And what about the ones that work

Logical Fallacy

If someone killed a member of my family or a loved one not related by blood and the justice system failed to hold them accountable i would track that person down and end their ****ing life.

And that is exactly why i could not be an Executioner. The justice system is far from perfect, it's an unfortunate fact that sometimes the guilty will walk free and an innocent person will go to jail.

If i was going to be the embodiment of the pointy end of the justice system i would need to know that it was 100% accurate, which is impossible.

Noo

Batsy wrote: »

Britain should bring back the death penalty.

And I would apply for a job as an executioner. At the end of the day, a job is a job and I would gladly hang felons than live on the dole. It would probably also pay well, too.

Death by snoo snoo?



Damn you edited your post!

Sunnyisland

Sindri wrote: »

There were families of executioners from around Ireland and England who all inter married as no one else would marry them.

They were all dying to tie the knot

Zebra3

the groutch wrote: »

How many TDs/Bankers/Property Developers do I get to execute?

This is Ireland.

0.

Wibbs

Sindri wrote: »

There were families of executioners from around Ireland and England who all inter married as no one else would marry them.

And in France too. They became quite inbred.

seamus wrote: »

At the moment, it's the only form of humane execution. All other forms are violent and used to exact revenge rather than simply execute the person.

I'd certainly not agree with that. Lethal injection can be anything but humane. It's more longwinded and drawn out for the victim and as doctors by law can't be present to carry out the setup, mistakes are often made. Ex drug users can have collapsed veins that make it difficult to find reliable insertion points for needles and different people can react differently to the drugs involved. The first drug is supposed to render the victim unconscious, the second paralyses them and the third kills them. On too many occasions the first drug has been observed not to work or wears off and the victim suffocates to death unable to signal the distress.

The electric chair another once "scientific" method is worse again. The gas chamber was beyond cruel. Again another "scentific" one. The Americans seem to get the horn for that stuff. Guillotine? No way. It's seems pretty certain the head can stay capable of conscious thought and feelings of pain(imagine the pain of a neck severed :eek:) for up to 10 seconds after. Firing squad can be too inaccurate(no pun) and without a coup de grace can actually take some time. Stoning? well that's for the savages.

Of the current methods if it was me for the chop? Long drop hanging and no mistake. Very quick from the time the cell door opens, half a second to the end of the rope followed by instant deep coma/unconsciousness and brain death soon after.

Bad Panda

maiden wrote: »

I seriously think I could flick the switch on this guy and walk away and NEVER have a regret about it, but if I had to hang him or behead him, no way I couldn't do it.

Just let the guillotine take care of the beheading..just flick a switch on that badboy...