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Would you like to see Ireland leave the European Union?

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  • #62
    Sindri
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    TroikaBox wrote: »
    You're. I wish I was trolling. The poll speaks for itself.

    Your name is TroikaBox, 2 of the 3 threads you have posted have been about politics, the other seems to be about A level maths and would leave me to believe you are English or British.

    One of your threads was a bout the UKIP leader for Taoiseach. An odd odd delirious idea.

    The other is about us leaving the EU regardless of the fact it is the ECB that funds us. You ask do we have any other option. No we do not. Stop trolling.


  • #63
    TroikaBox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭TroikaBox


    Close. I thought the number of people against would be an extremely small minority:)


  • #64
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    All patriots should say no the EU.

    But one could be a patriotic European :pac:


  • #65
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    TroikaBox wrote: »
    As far as I know, the Daily Mail aren't calling euroskeptics "weak". Slate the source of the information, not the medium. I treat the Daily mail as a medium only. If you can't be bothered to refer to the original source, well more luck to you.


    The high-lighted bit doesn't actually mean anything.

    As for the rest, why on earth would I want to read the Daily Mail's spin on anything EU-related (or anything else for that matter)?


  • #66
    LH Pathe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭LH Pathe


    For sure. fück economics I just want our soul back. and the pùnt..

    and sporting success


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  • #67
    Gareth2011
    Closed Accounts Posts: 579 ✭✭✭Gareth2011


    LH Pathe wrote: »
    For sure. fück economics I just want our soul back. and the pùnt..

    and sporting success

    I miss the punt. Remember when the 1 pound notes were in? If you had a roll of them you felt like you were loaded. Now if you have a roll of 20 euro notes its just like "yeah I have 500 here in 20's but it will get me f*ck all". Least thats how I feel about it anyway.


  • #68
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    When can we expect the next anti-EU thread to kick off?


  • #69
    TroikaBox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭TroikaBox


    Children love "Captain Euro" propaganda:rolleyes:

    http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.9734/pub_detail.asp


  • #70
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    TroikaBox wrote: »
    Children love "Captain Euro" propaganda:rolleyes:

    http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.9734/pub_detail.asp

    Bizarre stuff altogether. Yes, the punt and our old notes were way cooler.

    You must be scraping the barrel now.


  • #71
    TroikaBox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭TroikaBox


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    You must be scraping the barrel now.

    If you want a serious political discussion, this isn't the place for it. I just want to see what the opinion of the public in relation to EU support really is.


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  • #72
    Outkast_IRE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,511 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    I would like to change our involvement to a trade and services basis only, they can stick their currency and their constant involvement in our business


  • #73
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Batsy wrote: »
    It amazes me how the Irish were very good at fighting British rule but, when it comes to the EU, are happy to just sit on their arses and do nothing whilst the EU craps on you.

    Not really, the Irish have always specialised in arse sitting. It was always a small minority throughout our history, that ever got off their arse to do anything.


  • #74
    melekalikimaka
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    the sooner the eu take full control of us the better, we have proven ourselves time and time again as a nation, incapable of self management and a spoilt brat attitude to the rest of the eu, maybe now we can getting to redeem our countries name


  • #75
    Crazy Horse 6
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭Crazy Horse 6


    Yes very much.


  • #76
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    TroikaBox wrote: »
    If you want a serious political discussion, this isn't the place for it. I just want to see what the opinion of the public in relation to EU support really is.

    When you've polled every house in the country, please feel free to get back to us with your findings.


  • #77
    lugha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭lugha


    dlofnep wrote: »
    Democracy in the EU will continue to be eroded. It's happening with small steps, so it's hard to judge it at any one point - but in 50 years from now, Ireland's role in the EU will be as a subservient state - where the majority of it's policies will be controlled or influenced from Brussels. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a liar, or naive.
    It is quite possible that Ireland and the others won’t be states at all (as in sovereign), subservient or otherwise, if the EU proceeds as some would like to a USE.

    But however far it goes, what exactly is objectionable about a “state” that makes up about 1% of the EU population having a proportional level of influence?

    One of the most blatant deficiencies of democracy in the EU surely follows from the fact that the unit of membership in the state and not the citizen. Hence in some respects, little ‘ol Ireland has the same clout as big ‘ol Germany (right of veto for example)

    Not that I’m complaining! Certainly Ireland should act in the best interests of her people and I think we would need some convincing to persuade us that any benefits would be worth the cost of allowing our influence to dwindle to a level proportional to what our population should command.

    But if we do, it will amount to an erosion of our influence, not of democracy as you say.


  • #78
    Benny_Cake
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Benny_Cake


    lugha wrote: »
    It is quite possible that Ireland and the others won’t be states at all (as in sovereign), subservient or otherwise, if the EU proceeds as some would like to a USE.

    But however far it goes, what exactly is objectionable about a “state” that makes up about 1% of the EU population having a proportional level of influence?

    One of the most blatant deficiencies of democracy in the EU surely follows from the fact that the unit of membership in the state and not the citizen. Hence in some respects, little ‘ol Ireland has the same clout as big ‘ol Germany (right of veto for example)

    Not that I’m complaining! Certainly Ireland should act in the best interests of her people and I think we would need some convincing to persuade us that any benefits would be worth the cost of allowing our influence to dwindle to a level proportional to what our population should command.

    But if we do, it will amount to an erosion of our influence, not of democracy as you say.

    That's the nature of a federal system though, isn't it? In the US, Wyoming elects the same number of Senators as New York or California,arguably a citizen of Wyoming has more power. In any federal state there is always a balancing act between state / provincial rights and the demographics of the country.


  • #79
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    dlofnep wrote: »
    I say get out now, and work out trade agreements similar to Norway.

    This is the equivalent of the fat, spotty, greasyhaired woman down the road contemplating leaving her marriage so that she can enjoy the single life like Pippa Middleton.


  • #80
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,701 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    ArmaniJeanss wrote: »
    This is the equivalent of the fat, spotty, greasyhaired woman down the road contemplating leaving her marriage so that she can enjoy the single life like Pippa Middleton.

    i thank this 1,000 times


  • #81
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,192 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    In 5 years time this will have blown over and we'll be back to whinging about something else.


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  • #82
    franciebellew
    Site Banned Posts: 148 ✭✭franciebellew


    I think they should leave.

    I don't live there anyone so I don't care to be honest


  • #83
    Agricola
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    hmmm wrote: »
    In 5 years time this will have blown over and we'll be back to whinging about something else.

    I hope your right, but if we keep going the way we are, you could probably multiply that figure by 5.

    We need a write down of the debt. Its an insurrmountable obstacle. Stay in the EU, leave the eurozone.


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