[CoD MW3] - Megabitch Thread

krudler · 26-01-2012 08:22PM

is downturn the worst cod map ever? its shiiiiiiite

Magill · 26-01-2012 08:25PM

krudler wrote: »

is downturn the worst cod map ever? its shiiiiiiite

yeah, its really really bad.

krudler · 26-01-2012 08:31PM

Magill wrote: »

yeah, its really really bad.

the setting is cool, downtown NY, nice one, but jesus, half the map is undergound the rest is in office blocks, air support is POINTLESS on it, there's hardly any decent sightlines, just sh1t everywhere that gets in your war, ugh, worst mw3 map by far. of the current mw3 maps the ones I like are mission, seatown occasionally, dome, arkaden and village isnt bad, dont like the far side withe caves though. Interchange is a love/hate map, downturn is godawful, carbon is meh, the french ones are ok but again air support is mostly pointless, escpecially controllable ones, I got a bunch of reapers playing with boards lads earlier and got fcuk all kills with them as hardly any spots on the map are open

greenman09 · 26-01-2012 08:31PM

Easily the worst.

Magill · 26-01-2012 08:37PM

krudler wrote: »

the setting is cool, downtown NY, nice one, but jesus, half the map is undergound the rest is in office blocks, air support is POINTLESS on it, there's hardly any decent sightlines, just sh1t everywhere that gets in your war, ugh, worst mw3 map by far. of the current mw3 maps the ones I like are mission, seatown occasionally, dome, arkaden and village isnt bad, dont like the far side withe caves though. Interchange is a love/hate map, downturn is godawful, carbon is meh, the french ones are ok but again air support is mostly pointless, escpecially controllable ones, I got a bunch of reapers playing with boards lads earlier and got fcuk all kills with them as hardly any spots on the map are open

Its just a clusterfook i think, too much **** lying about the map.

I just really hate the colour palette they used for most of the maps, its all very doom and gloom... people said the same thing about black ops... imo, MW3 makes BLOPS look like bloody disneyworld fs !

krudler · 26-01-2012 08:58PM

yeah Arkaden should be more like Terminal, its the most depressing shopping centre ever.

ugglasdav · 26-01-2012 09:12PM

IW have hot fixed the the secondary sub machine guns today, tried out the FMG9's and the rate of fire on them has been greatly reduced, they actually seem better because the recoil on them is very little and hitting people from a far distance is alot easier, even with the rate of fire being reduced they still kill very fast

Shifty Shellshock · 26-01-2012 09:26PM

People who run Blind eye, Assassin and dead silence all in the one go are losers.

krudler · 26-01-2012 09:37PM

Shifty Shellshock wrote: »

People who run Blind eye, Assassin and dead silence all in the one go are losers.

they b ninjas n stuff.

Creasy_bear · 26-01-2012 11:48PM

Shifty Shellshock wrote: »

People who run Blind eye, Assassin and dead silence all in the one go are losers.

from the start of the match too, always makes me laugh.

turds.

This game should be called MWFMG9's.

People sitting in corners/crouch walking around with them. Fcuking pathetic.

Don't patch them, just take them out of the game altogether.

Cossax · 26-01-2012 11:49PM

krudler wrote: »

they b ninjas n stuff.

Silenced ACRs and Type 95s too! Like. A. Baws.

hightower1 · 26-01-2012 11:51PM

I just cant fathom the glaring issues that this game has and how IW didnt spot and correct these in the development cycle. Second chance, dead mans hand, the shotguns power, akimbo fmgs ,type 95 and most of all .... the map design. These arent hard to find flaws , they dont require l33t hacking skills or crazy glitching talents, they are hard coded in the game and part of the design. Its overwhelming that these are the main issues in mw3 from nearly ever single person who has picked it up yet an entire team of developers couldnt see these?

I stopped playing cold turkey a month ago when I got Skyrim and cleared it a week ago, there have been no games of note to play since and I simply wont play mw3 because of all these flaws. I wont be a a day one purchaser of the next COD tbh I will be far far more hesitant to pick it up. It seems like new IW "light" simply lacks the talent that the original IW crew had Perhaps the the people who left with West and Zampalla left because they were the most involved , passionate and dedicated and now maybe thats why such glaring mistakes were made because the same passion , dedication and talent has abandoned the series.

If someone made me choose right now between the unknown respawn studios game and the next COD I would honestly have to say I would bet on respawn.... the people make the game - both literally and figuratively.

Activision are going to find themselves in a weird position where most new IPs face the task of trying to convince consumers to buy into the product, world and experience simply because its an unknown .... they will be in a position of having to convince previous advocates that the mistakes and downfalls have been fixed and that any new game is a return to form and that what they are buying into IS something familiar for the right reasons and not the wrong ones.

GEasy · 27-01-2012 12:15AM

hightower1 wrote: »

I just cant fathom the glaring issues that this game has and how IW didnt spot and correct these in the development cycle. Second chance, dead mans hand, the shotguns power, akimbo fmgs ,type 95 and most of all .... the map design. These arent hard to find flaws , they dont require l33t hacking skills or crazy glitching talents, they are hard coded in the game and part of the design. Its overwhelming that these are the main issues in mw3 from nearly ever single person who has picked it up yet an entire team of developers couldnt see these?

I stopped playing cold turkey a month ago when I got Skyrim and cleared it a week ago, there have been no games of note to play since and I simply wont play mw3 because of all these flaws. I wont be a a day one purchaser of the next COD tbh I will be far far more hesitant to pick it up. It seems like new IW "light" simply lacks the talent that the original IW crew had Perhaps the the people who left with West and Zampalla left because they were the most involved , passionate and dedicated and now maybe thats why such glaring mistakes were made because the same passion , dedication and talent has abandoned the series.

If someone made me choose right now between the unknown respawn studios game and the next COD I would honestly have to say I would bet on respawn.... the people make the game - both literally and figuratively.

Activision are going to find themselves in a weird position where most new IPs face the task of trying to convince consumers to buy into the product, world and experience simply because its an unknown .... they will be in a position of having to convince previous advocates that the mistakes and downfalls have been fixed and that any new game is a return to form and that what they are buying into IS something familiar for the right reasons and not the wrong ones.

That bowling fella talks so much ****! Gun on gun blah blah blah. Blops was more gun on gun.
I'll be buying the next COD day one so long as Treyarch are making it !

dickdasterly · 27-01-2012 09:36AM

Not sure if this as been covered before am sure it has, the biggest flaw has to be the fact that you can score up to 4000 with kill confirmed with no kills, just by collecting your own tags. Boosting but in a legal sense.

Kells... · 27-01-2012 09:55AM

Huh.
Ok then you just go lose the game while I run around and win for you by picking up your tags.

DaveNoCheese · 27-01-2012 10:16AM

Shifty Shellshock wrote: »

People who run Blind eye, Assassin and dead silence all in the one go are losers.

Cossax wrote: »

Silenced ACRs and Type 95s too! Like. A. Baws.

Sounds like a class set up IMO :rolleyes:

gimli2112 · 27-01-2012 10:35AM

dickdasterly wrote: »

Not sure if this as been covered before am sure it has, the biggest flaw has to be the fact that you can score up to 4000 with kill confirmed with no kills, just by collecting your own tags. Boosting but in a legal sense.

Reported a clan for doing that recently

Ken Tucky · 27-01-2012 10:59AM

Mw3 is less hectic but just a sh*t game from start to finish, it's basically mw2 with bad maps, full of camping and over the top bullsh*t.

Really disagree there mate! Maybe its just me but i find MW3 too bleeding hectic. I find i cant watch for enemies without one popping up in front of me which wasnt comming up on the radar all the time.

Im not the greatest player but in MW2 i was at a decent level but i really cant handle this at all.

I also find it hard to see enemies, once again that could be just me! I use a 37" screen to play so its not my hardware. That said im still feeling my way into it. But its not biting and i reckon it'll be traded very shortly!

Im not even playing now and i feel rage haha!

Kells... · 27-01-2012 11:02AM

A smaller screen is much much better

Most Lans use 17-21 inch which is perfect because you can see the Radar without having to avert your eyes from the action.

quietriot · 27-01-2012 11:19AM

Gah, wtf has hardcore become? In previous versions it could be fairly rife with campers at the best of times but now it's just an absolute joke. People are either camping or running around with either of the two automatic grenade launchers with the decent clips...I mean, who needed those in the game? Surely grenade spamming with onemanarmy pro in MW2 was sufficient to warrant them to cut back on grenade launchers a bit...not stockpile them like nothing else.

Every hardcore game is now TDM. If you're playing Demolition, more than half your team is playing TDM and don't care about the targets. If you're playing S&D, same again. Load of bollocks really and non-hardcore is piss poor.

They seem to have taken every issue with the previous MW titles and incorporated them into one clusterf*ck of a game.

Camping a bit of a problem? Well, let's make it even easier for them!
Maps a bit ****? Well, lets make the maps worse than ever, stifling game play and making people beg for new maps, which we'll give them at €7.50 each!
Grenade spamming ruining the game? Well, let's throw in a few more grenade launchers, just to make it funneh.
Unbalanced and ridiculous match making? Well, who cares if one team has 6 high ranked prestige players and the other has more than 3 people who are brand new to the game, that's hilarious!

Single player is absolute ****e also. Got 1/3 of the way through and gave up. Same missions, different skin and absolutely nothing interesting about it.

I see 2nd hand MW3 can be got from even GameSpot for €30 now, which is significantly less than the resale value MW held for over a year.

krudler · 27-01-2012 12:41PM

quietriot wrote: »

Gah, wtf has hardcore become? In previous versions it could be fairly rife with campers at the best of times but now it's just an absolute joke. People are either camping or running around with either of the two automatic grenade launchers with the decent clips...I mean, who needed those in the game? Surely grenade spamming with onemanarmy pro in MW2 was sufficient to warrant them to cut back on grenade launchers a bit...not stockpile them like nothing else.

Every hardcore game is now TDM. If you're playing Demolition, more than half your team is playing TDM and don't care about the targets. If you're playing S&D, same again. Load of bollocks really and non-hardcore is piss poor.

They seem to have taken every issue with the previous MW titles and incorporated them into one clusterf*ck of a game.

Camping a bit of a problem? Well, let's make it even easier for them!
Maps a bit ****? Well, lets make the maps worse than ever, stifling game play and making people beg for new maps, which we'll give them at €7.50 each!
Grenade spamming ruining the game? Well, let's throw in a few more grenade launchers, just to make it funneh.
Unbalanced and ridiculous match making? Well, who cares if one team has 6 high ranked prestige players and the other has more than 3 people who are brand new to the game, that's hilarious!

Single player is absolute ****e also. Got 1/3 of the way through and gave up. Same missions, different skin and absolutely nothing interesting about it.

I see 2nd hand MW3 can be got from even GameSpot for €30 now, which is significantly less than the resale value MW held for over a year.

To be fair I cant count on one hand the amount of times I've been killed by grenade launchers in MW3, noobtubing is practically non existent, I havent played hardcore much yet will give it a bash later.

MW2 was pretty hectic, especially on ground war games where its an ADD riddled killstreak and explosion mess, MW3 is hectic but in a different way, its like there's zero flow to the games just everyone all over the place because of the crappy spawns.

quietriot · 27-01-2012 12:49PM

krudler wrote: »

To be fair I cant count on one hand the amount of times I've been killed by grenade launchers in MW3, noobtubing is practically non existent, I havent played hardcore much yet will give it a bash later.

I've found it's not really an issue in non-hardcore as the grenades appear to be fairly ineffective overall, however it's absolutely rampant in hc.

MW2 was pretty hectic, especially on ground war games where its an ADD riddled killstreak and explosion mess, MW3 is hectic but in a different way, its like there's zero flow to the games just everyone all over the place because of the crappy spawns.

All over the place is right, the spawning is atrocious. I've had more enemies spawn right in front of me in MW3 than I ever saw in previous versions and similarly I've spawned right in front of enemies a frustrating number of times now.

It'll never be fixed though. They've shown with MW3, of all them, that it's a money making enterprise and not a game making enterprise. It's a shame it has done so well, although I do love seeing it receive 2.9/10 average out of 5000 user reviews on metacritic http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-3 . If anything, it shows how easily the professional "critics" opinions are bought. 88% pro critic vs 29% user review doesn't add up.

krudler · 27-01-2012 01:14PM

141_Oscar_Mike wrote: »

Tried out the Osprey Gunner KS a while ago. Useless it is for such i high KS.

its good on village, thats about it

Leeg17 · 27-01-2012 01:26PM

krudler wrote: »

To be fair I cant count on one hand the amount of times I've been killed by grenade launchers in MW3, noobtubing is practically non existent, I havent played hardcore much yet will give it a bash later.

Give us a shout when you're heading on, 9-12am Fridays has it advantages!

yimrsg · 27-01-2012 01:33PM

quietriot wrote: »

I've found it's not really an issue in non-hardcore as the grenades appear to be fairly ineffective overall, however it's absolutely rampant in hc.

All over the place is right, the spawning is atrocious. I've had more enemies spawn right in front of me in MW3 than I ever saw in previous versions and similarly I've spawned right in front of enemies a frustrating number of times now.

It'll never be fixed though. They've shown with MW3, of all them, that it's a money making enterprise and not a game making enterprise. It's a shame it has done so well, although I do love seeing it receive 2.9/10 average out of 5000 user reviews on metacritic http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-3 . If anything, it shows how easily the professional "critics" opinions are bought. 88% pro critic vs 29% user review doesn't add up.

I was using the xm25 last night and it's possible to get one hit kills with it on the normal playlists, I somehow beat a guy using a shotgun with it at close range. It's should be banned from hardcore as having 16 explosive rounds in hardcore is insane. It's just another example of the complete lack of playtesting and foresight in the game.

As for the discrepancies in the rating they're both too extreme, the game has serious flaws but it's not unplayable all of the time. It's very similar to mw2/blackops/etc. in the sense that your experience and enjoyment is heavily reliant on the opposition. Playing against dual fmg9s assassin campers on mw3 is no fun, just as playing against silenced ak74 ghost campers in black ops was no fun.

Magill · 27-01-2012 01:39PM

TroutFisher wrote: »

A smaller screen is much much better

Most Lans use 17-21 inch which is perfect because you can see the Radar without having to avert your eyes from the action.

They use smaller screens for a few reasons, one being that well... they're smaller, cheaper + Easier to transport.

Other than that, it just depends how close you sit to your screen. Most people usually sit a good bit further from the TV than they would if they're on say a PC, a 17 inch screen isn't much use if your sitting way back on your sofa !

dickdasterly · 27-01-2012 02:06PM

TroutFisher wrote: »

Huh.
Ok then you just go lose the game while I run around and win for you by picking up your tags.

You missed my point, I said you can do it drop tactical insertion move out get killed respawn move 2ft get your tags.
Not saying that's what I do I saying you can it and surely it needs fixing as it's not right.

krudler · 27-01-2012 02:10PM

does suiciding make your tags drop on KC?

Simply Red · 27-01-2012 02:21PM

krudler wrote: »

does suiciding make your tags drop on KC?

No, only drop after an enemy kills you

27-01-2012 02:43PM

Magill wrote: »

They use smaller screens for a few reasons, one being that well... they're smaller, cheaper + Easier to transport.

Other than that, it just depends how close you sit to your screen. Most people usually sit a good bit further from the TV than they would if they're on say a PC, a 17 inch screen isn't much use if your sitting way back on your sofa !

Nah small monitors genuinely are better.

[CoD MW3] - Megabitch Thread

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