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What do you think will happen after October 24th ?

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  • #32
    Machinehead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Machinehead


    excollier wrote: »
    I very much hope that october 25th will happen after the 24th.
    OMG 25th October 2012


  • #33
    Ronnie Raygun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,351 ✭✭✭Ronnie Raygun


    Machinehead wrote: »
    Consider all the buildings such hospitals/nursing homes & pubs etc outside the cabled areas that don't have sky. The number of these locations that would require STB's or Saorview TVs for each existing connection ...

    A big place could just use a box & modulator for each channel & distribute to the analogue sets or a proper (S)MATV system with dedicated headend unit to produce analogue output from input digital signals.


  • #34
    watty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,461 ✭✭✭✭watty


    The Cush wrote: »
    Thanks for the input Brian.

    This is a comment from Comreg in a recent information notice

    Just typical Comreg covering themselves. I'd not read anything into ANY Comreg caveat.


  • #35
    Kenny Powers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭Kenny Powers


    I imagne after the 24th a message could be left broadcast on a loop on RTE1 or on all analogue channels for a couple of weeks letting everyone know what they need to do and in the run up to the 24th a scrolling message at the bottom of the screen warning viewers of the switch off.


  • #36
    aerial man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭aerial man


    MarkK wrote: »
    The Gay Byrne ad does not say anything about getting rid of your aerial and does not even mention buying a box or new TV, it says:
    "So if you are watching this on a TV with an aerial, you will have to take action to avoid your screen going blank."

    It is a very unclear message, for example, I ive a MPEG4 tv, recieving digital rte, which takes its signal from my aerial on the roof, what action do i need to take? There are some people who think they will have to start paying subscription satellite to receive their rte, and have got rid of their aerial, even though it perfectly set up for Saorview. The ad has a confusing message for some people.

    As I said before, I hope the clarity of these advertisements improve.


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  • #37
    tlaavtech
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 377 ✭✭tlaavtech


    Kenny Powers wrote: »
    I imagne after the 24th a message could be left broadcast on a loop on RTE1 or on all analogue channels for a couple of weeks letting everyone know what they need to do and in the run up to the 24th a scrolling message at the bottom of the screen warning viewers of the switch off.

    Almost certain that you will get the scrolling message before the 24th, and old fashioned white noise after.

    Since some of the Analogue frequencies will be re-used for digital, there won't be "all the analogue channels" at that stage.


  • #38
    Sponge Bob
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    aerial man wrote: »
    There are some people who think they will have to start paying subscription satellite to receive their rte, and have got rid of their aerial, even though it perfectly set up for Saorview.

    Many people ONLY got Sky to work around a crap aerial install ( possibly more than once given the failure rates on the old Band 1 H aerials outdoors) or a bad signal in their area.

    So the idea that one needs to get Sky to get a proper picture is ingrained in certain areas of the country where Digital TV can easily and cheaply be made work over an aerial.

    The message in those areas, surely, is that they do not need to pay anyone for a decent RTE picture.


  • #39
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,838 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    On the 24th of October, matter and antimatter collisions will lead to the annihilation of the known universe, and RTE will open its new HD studio in Donnybrook. We will get the news in HD. :eek:


  • #40
    Machinehead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Machinehead


    10000maniacs wrote: »
    On the 24th of October, matter and antimatter collisions will lead to the annihilation of the known universe, and RTE will open its new HD studio in Donnybrook. We will get the news in HD. :eek:

    Not if the Borg get here first:-)


  • #41
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,677 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Okay, spare the joke comments, or this thread will be closed.

    My own view is that ASO will not be without problems, and that at the very least, the following day's Liveline will be particularly lively. At the other extreme, there might be a big backlash, and the Government might be forced into an extension of analogue transmission in certain areas.

    But hey, I would welcome a pleasant surprise on that one.


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  • #42
    watty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,461 ✭✭✭✭watty


    That's simply not technically possible. Either it's delayed on the Entire Island on Every site or on none.


  • #43
    Last
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭Last


    Just to let you know of a Community Outreach Digital Switchover programme to target the people least likely to switch over. This is due to kick off in March. If its done properly and local community groups buy in to the concept it should have a good result.
    I believe that no matter what information is distributed there will be some people who will do nothing until actual switch off. I believe some of these people may not even notice for a couple of days as TV is not that important to them.


  • #44
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,389 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Last wrote: »
    Just to let you know of a Community Outreach Digital Switchover programme to target the people least likely to switch over. This is due to kick off in March.

    Discussed here when the announcement was made in early Jan, due to roll out in April.

    http://www.goingdigital.ie/Sections/Outreach/


  • #45
    elsie1b
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭elsie1b


    Last wrote: »
    Just to let you know of a Community Outreach Digital Switchover programme to target the people least likely to switch over. This is due to kick off in March. If its done properly and local community groups buy in to the concept it should have a good result.
    I believe that no matter what information is distributed there will be some people who will do nothing until actual switch off. I believe some of these people may not even notice for a couple of days as TV is not that important to them.
    There are some people in the southeast who might just as well wait until october 24th,when Mount Leinster changes frequency.
    Some are not able to pick up channel 45 at the moment but this will change with the retune.
    Imagine putting in saorview for an elderly person only to have to tell them to wait till october for it to work properly !


  • #46
    MarkK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 721 ✭✭✭MarkK


    elsie1b wrote: »
    Imagine putting in saorview for an elderly person only to have to tell them to wait till october for it to work properly !

    Well that's how it works for many in the UK who are too far from a main transmitter or using a relay transmitter.

    No digital at all until two weeks before switchover, when they get just the BBC Mux instead of analogue BBC 2.
    Then they have two weeks when BBC 2 is only available on digital, while ITV and Channel 4 are only available on analogue.
    On switchover day they will need to retune their digital boxes again and you can't tell for sure what problems they may have until switchover day.


  • #47
    watty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,461 ✭✭✭✭watty


    None of my UK relatives have Digital via an aerial till the ASO.


  • #48
    elsie1b
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭elsie1b


    MarkK wrote: »
    Well that's how it works for many in the UK who are too far from a main transmitter or using a relay transmitter.

    No digital at all until two weeks before switchover, when they get just the BBC Mux instead of analogue BBC 2.
    Then they have two weeks when BBC 2 is only available on digital, while ITV and Channel 4 are only available on analogue.
    On switchover day they will need to retune their digital boxes again and you can't tell for sure what problems they may have until switchover day.
    Yes,but won't it work from day one for this persons cousin in Cork ?
    I have an aerial in the loft tuned to Forth Mountain until aso when it will be removed.
    I was also watching freeview from Preselli for a number of years before the Welsh aso.


  • #49
    watty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,461 ✭✭✭✭watty


    You'll be able to watch Digital Preseli after Irish ASO. Mt Leinster Digital moves to the Analogue group A


  • #50
    Machinehead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Machinehead


    While there has been some activity on a few tx's recently for mux 2, we haven't seen a thing from Mulla or Maghera for ages. Also I'm not so sure if anything has come on the 2nd mux from the relays at Cnoc an Oir or Knockmoyle in Kerry. A lot of tidying up to be done here in the southwest.
    Don't know if this has been posted yet. Broadband TV News:

    "Saorsat, the free-to-air satellite companion to Ireland’s DTT service Saorview, is slated to launch this February or March.

    Documents released by RTÉNL, the network’s division of the public broadcaster, said tests have been underway since December 2011. Saorsat will be carried on Eutelsat’s Ka-Sat at 9 degrees East.

    It is anticipated that suitable receivers will be available within the next few weeks.

    Around 1% and 2% of the Irish population will be unable to receive the terrestrial transmissions from Saorview. It also seems likely the transmissions will also be made available in Northern Ireland, while a joint UK and Irish Government project is currently examining the possibility of allowing the existing RTÉ and TG4 television services to be carried on part of the UK’s Freeview platform".

    Link: http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2012/01/26/saorsat-to-launch-in-february/


  • #51
    watty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,461 ✭✭✭✭watty


    yes, posted a couple of days ago.
    First suggested by me in I think July 2010 when RTE was before the Communications Committee.

    We don't have a start date for the service yet. No need to rush out and get a Ka-band LNBF till at least March - June.


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  • #52
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,389 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Machinehead wrote: »
    Don't know if this has been posted yet.

    Link: http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2012/01/26/saorsat-to-launch-in-february/

    I posted it yesterday over in the Saorsat thread - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=76732192#post76732192

    The document they refer is probably the latest RTÉNL-Saorview FAQ rev.6, they expect it to be formally live in Feb or Mar.


  • #53
    Antenna
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    tlaavtech wrote: »
    Almost certain that you will get the scrolling message before the 24th, and old fashioned white noise after.


    A lot of modern TVs do not display snow/noise at all (in absense of a signal) - they go to a blue or black mute.
    Sometimes faults in transmission amplifiers (non-linearity affecting Sync Pulse level) can result in the picture mute coming on on TVs with this 'feature' even though there is a flawed but watchable picture!
    This actually was happening last weekend on RTE2 analogue (Ch59) via Crosshaven relay in County Cork - which covers a large percentage of Cork Harbour/Cobh/Carrigaline. The RTE2 picture was horizontally 'shaky'/prone to vertical rolling/darker than normal and sound muting going on and off. Much more annoying was for viewers with TVs with picture muting - every few second the picture was muted. It is often possible to turn off the picture muting in a menu (on A JVC CRT I tried -the option is called 'Blue Back' under 'Features' in the menu. ).
    The Crosshaven problem was fixed on Monday AFAIK.


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