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Heineken Cup - General Discussion Thread

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    #1322
    irishbucsfan
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    Seems all my calculating last week was a complete waste of time. Cheers connacht!


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    #1323
    errlloyd
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    To be fair to English teams, they are fighting a salary cap.

    Feels good having three through though. No one can say it was easy either. I feel all three could win it too. I almost think Clermont at home in the quarters would be a good thing.


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    #1324
    durkadurka
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    greendom wrote: »
    Do you think that is because that competition is designed with the H Cup in mind. It's complimentary whearas the English and French leagues are competing against it ?

    Some of it just the way it turned out really. There's an element of luck and happenstance to it. But the rabo teams certainly gear everything around the HEC alright.


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    #1325
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Clermont at home in the knockouts is a different kettle of fish altogether to Clermont at home in the pool stages as leinster discovered in 2010


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    #1326
    Sylas Unsightly Meteorite
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    greendom wrote: »
    Do you think that is because that competition is designed with the H Cup in mind. It's complimentary whearas the English and French leagues are competing against it ?

    Cool question, and probably right to some extent.


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    #1327
    OldRio
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    The HC gets better and better.
    3 Irish teams through to the knockout.
    Seems the Pro12 league has delivered, so far.
    No doubt the usual suspects over the water will offer excuses (see some earlier posts) but this is a fine achievement for the Irish teams.
    Lets hope these players continue their good form for the Ireland team (if selected, but thats another story)


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    #1328
    shuffol
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    Highlights of Gloucester-Toulouse. Some game

    http://youtu.be/jqsH92UfhY0


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    #1329
    Sylas Unsightly Meteorite
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    How horribly bad did that winger get caught out?! ridiculous.

    Beautiful hands for second french try though.

    Gloucester's third is sweet too

    Look at the numbers Toulouse get to the ruck @ 7:40

    some serious rugby played in that game.


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    #1330
    shuffol
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭shuffol


    Yeah Matanavou was shocking for the first and last Gloucester tries.

    Freddie Burns is electric, love watching him.


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    #1331
    cgpg5
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    shuffol wrote: »
    Yeah Matanavou was shocking for the first and last Gloucester tries.

    Freddie Burns is electric, love watching him.

    Better option at 10 than Hodgson for England ya reckon? I haven't seen much of Burns I'll admit. But Hodgson is very hit and miss I feel.


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    #1332
    irishbucsfan
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    Freddie Burns is the definition of hit and miss


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    #1333
    errlloyd
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    Sky just did a class Ulster montage to a Coldplay song. Probably the only time Coldplay has ever been inspirational.


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    #1334
    shuffol
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭shuffol


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Freddie Burns is the definition of hit and miss

    He is but he's still very young, only 21.


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    #1335
    KevinK
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    Who will take the 8th place if Ulster win? (presuming Cardiff or Edinburgh get 7th)
    Harlequins are on 17 and leicester, clermont and Northampton can all get there.

    Edit- the winner of ospreys/Biarritz can get to 18 but presuming the winner gets to 17 which of these teams is in line to get 8th?


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    #1336
    CIARAN_BOYLE
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    KevinK wrote: »
    Who will take the 8th place if Ulster win? (presuming Cardiff or Edinburgh get 7th)
    Harlequins are on 17 and leicester, clermont and Northampton can all get there.

    Edit- the winner of ospreys/Biarritz can get to 18 but presuming the winner gets to 17 which of these teams is in line to get 8th?
    Whoever has the most tries. At the moment Clermont has a massive advantage in terms of tries scored (12 last week against Aironi) so if they ended up on 17 with Ulster winning they would go through (assuming Biarritz/Ospreys don't get a TBP)


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    #1337
    CIARAN_BOYLE
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    Tigers trailing 6-3 at the moment

    No tries so far in Clermont Ulster big ask for Clermont to get a bp if they win.


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    #1338
    thomond2006
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    Leicester 9-6 Aironi, HT


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    #1339
    DDC1990
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    Clermont win.

    Where does that leave things?


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    #1340
    cgpg5
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    DDC1990 wrote: »
    Clermont win.

    Where does that leave things?

    Ulster will most likely be 8th seeds I think Clermont will finish as 4th seeds, provided Munster don't get LBP. Its very likely that if Munster lose that they'll play Clermont either way. They'll be both 4th and 5th seeds


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    #1341
    castie
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    Munster Clermont if Munster lose. Home if LBP.


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    #1342
    washman3
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    Big Nelly wrote: »
    Also if you knew anything look at the team Montpellier are putting out against Leinster. Its there strongest 15 or as close as possible

    Leinster 25 Montpellier 3

    strongest team score 3 pts in 80mins...;)


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    #1343
    overshoot
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    OldRio wrote: »
    The HC gets better and better.
    3 Irish teams through to the knockout.
    Seems the Pro12 league has delivered, so far.
    No doubt the usual suspects over the water will offer excuses (see some earlier posts) but this is a fine achievement for the Irish teams.
    Lets hope these players continue their good form for the Ireland team (if selected, but thats another story)
    pro 12 in general is really coming out on top this year
    looks like 5/8 quarter finalists will be pro 12 (1 english, 2 french) and 3 will have home quarter finals too. (backing edinburgh and cardiff) that also means munster v ulster and at least one irish semi finalist


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    #1344
    P_1
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    1-Munster v Ulster
    2-Leinster v Edinburgh
    3-Sarries v Toulouse
    4-Cardiff v Clermont

    not sure if anyody would have predicted those 1/4 finals

    wonder what way the semi draw will go


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    #1345
    matthew8
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    I wonder if Munster would prefer the number 2 seed to the number 1. No. 1 should mean Ulster for them, who they typically play poor against, rather than Cardiff/Edinburgh.


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    #1346
    ray jay
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    matthew8 wrote: »
    I wonder if Munster would prefer the number 2 seed to the number 1. No. 1 should mean Ulster for them, who they typically play poor against, rather than Cardiff/Edinburgh.
    Yeah I wouldn't say Leinster will be too bothered to be second seeds, they'll have an easy time against Edinburgh at home.


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    #1347
    cgpg5
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    Munster v Ulster
    Leinster v Edin
    Sarries v Toulouse
    Cardiff v Clermont

    Ulster, Leinster, Sarries and Clermont for semis I feel, although there is 3 very intriguing games there potentially.


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    #1348
    bleg
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    cgpg5 wrote: »
    Munster v Ulster
    Leinster v Edin
    Sarries v Toulouse
    Cardiff v Clermont

    Ulster, Leinster, Sarries and Clermont for semis I feel, although there is 3 very intriguing games there potentially.



    Keep writing Munster off. We love it.:)


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    #1349
    CiaranMT
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    Still think Embra will mess up tomorrow.


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    #1350
    ktulu123
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    What would that mean for Leinster if Edinburgh lose tomorrow?


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    #1351
    overshoot
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    ktulu123 wrote: »
    What would that mean for Leinster if Edinburgh lose tomorrow?
    they play ulster, as they will be best runners up. either way we are now guaranteed one irish semi finalist i think


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