The Recession......your solutions?

44leto · 19-01-2012 08:57PM

Nolanger wrote: »

Make graduates who want to emigrate pay back their education grant!

Well at least we don't have to pay them dole.

Nolanger · 19-01-2012 09:12PM

Teach students in college how to create the own jobs/set up a business instead of expecting a job when they graduate.

My name is URL · 19-01-2012 09:26PM

Is there anything to be said for saying another Mass?

Sleepy · 19-01-2012 11:58PM

A new Sleepy tax. 50c to my bank account every time you go to sleep.

Crazy Horse 6 · 20-01-2012 12:01AM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I have a job but still live at home because I can't afford to move out. My parents are the reason I have roof over my head. I don't have transport because again I can't afford a car at the moment. I don't pay the bills but I support myself.

I have struggled too. I just think that being bitter and all doom-and-gloom about things won't help anything.

We are in tough time but the country is not about to fall apart just yet.

Eh the country has fell apart.

billybudd · 20-01-2012 12:06AM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I have a job but still live at home because I can't afford to move out. My parents are the reason I have roof over my head. I don't have transport because again I can't afford a car at the moment. I don't pay the bills but I support myself.

I have struggled too. I just think that being bitter and all doom-and-gloom about things won't help anything.

We are in tough time but the country is not about to fall apart just yet.

How can you say you support yourself anyway? supporting yourself would be paying for your own housing and your own bills, neither of which you do. you seem to lack complete awareness.

simit · 20-01-2012 12:09AM

We should just declare war on the U.S. Have them invade and hopefully they'll intern our leaders in Guantanamo

noodler · 20-01-2012 12:17AM

billybudd wrote: »

How can you say you support yourself anyway? supporting yourself would be paying for your own housing and your own bills, neither of which you do. you seem to lack complete awareness.

A little ignorant yourself.

I know plenty of people my age who are currently being helped big time from income from their kids.

billybudd · 20-01-2012 12:19AM

noodler wrote: »

A little ignorant yourself.

I know plenty of people my age who are currently being helped big time from income from their kids.

How is it ignorant?

And i find nothing wrong with familys helping each other, i would encourage it.

TheZohanS · 20-01-2012 12:24AM

noodler wrote: »

A little ignorant yourself.

I know plenty of people my age who are currently being helped big time from income from their kids.

I think he was referring to her comment:

I don't pay the bills

That's not supporting yourself or helping out your folks.

noodler · 20-01-2012 12:27AM

TheZohan wrote: »

I think he was referring to her comment: That's not supporting yourself or helping out your folks.

Point taken. I didn't see the bills comment.

At the same time though, if the parents don't need your contibution and it allows the son/daughter time to save up some money for a place then what harm.

gurramok · 20-01-2012 12:35AM

starbelgrade wrote: »

In my own business, I've cut my fees quite a bit, yet there are still people who say that they're too expensive. Personally I don't give a fuck - I'm not that pushed for the work, but I know some people in the same business as me who are working at or below cost just to keep the doors open & the staff on their books. That is simply unsustainable & the absurd thing is that I work in an area of business that in essence a luxury service - the type of people who would employ my services actually have money but they're either afraid to spend it or are just penny pinching in the extreme.

You a pimp?? Hows the escort business these days?

Fizman · 20-01-2012 12:47AM

Legalise prostitution.

The above act alone would generate ridiculous sums of money for the gvnt.
- Every premises needs a license (e.g. €5,000 per annum)
- Every prostitute/gigolo needs a permit/license (e.g. €1,000 per annum)
- Government claim VAT back from every 'ride' (e.g. ride is €100.....the gvnt get 23 bucks for EVERY act.....EVERY night!)
- Every licensed prostitute must have an STI check every 3 months
- Client knows he is dealing with clean girls
- ??????
- Profit
- Giggidy giggidy goo

But no, don't don't any of the above because it wouldn't be the Catholic thing to do. Instead of raising hundreds of millions per annum, let's introduce a property tax.....p1ss everyone off by the notion of it.......but never actually receive the measily 0.2 billion (rough estimate) we would get if everyone paid up.

TheZohanS · 20-01-2012 12:58AM

Fizman wrote: »

Legalise prostitution.

The above act alone would generate ridiculous sums of money for the gvnt.
- Every premises needs a license (e.g. €5,000 per annum)
- Every prostitute/gigolo needs a permit/license (e.g. €1,000 per annum)
- Government claim VAT back from every 'ride' (e.g. ride is €100.....the gvnt get 23 bucks for EVERY act.....EVERY night!)
- Every licensed prostitute must have an STI check every 3 months
- Client knows he is dealing with clean girls
- ??????
- Profit
- Giggidy giggidy goo

But no, don't don't any of the above because it wouldn't be the Catholic thing to do. Instead of raising hundreds of millions per annum, let's introduce a property tax.....p1ss everyone off by the notion of it.......but never actually receive the measily 0.2 billion (rough estimate) we would get if everyone paid up.

Could legalise abortion too. But make it so that it can't be done on the medical card.

The above act alone would generate ridiculous sums of money for the gvnt.
- Every premises needs a license (e.g. €5,000 per annum)
- Every doctor needs a permit/license (e.g. €1,000 per annum)
- Government claim VAT back from every 'abortion'
- ??????
- Profit

billybudd · 20-01-2012 01:03AM

At the same time though, if the parents don't need your contibution and it allows the son/daughter time to save up some money for a place then what harm.[/QUOTE]

Nothing wrong with it at all, if you read through the thread then perhaps you can see why i was being harsh.

Fizman · 20-01-2012 01:22AM

TheZohan wrote: »

Could legalise abortion too. But make it so that it can't be done on the medical card.

The above act alone would generate ridiculous sums of money for the gvnt.
- Every premises needs a license (e.g. €5,000 per annum)
- Every doctor needs a permit/license (e.g. €1,000 per annum)
- Government claim VAT back from every 'abortion'
- ??????
- Profit

Holy-sh1t balls Batman......I've just thought of a little trick that will make this country the richest in the universe.

1. Implement my plan
2. Implement yours
3. Sabotage condoms
4. Party like it's 1999 (e.g. happier times).

TheZohanS · 20-01-2012 01:32AM

Fizman wrote: »

Holy-sh1t balls Batman......I've just thought of a little trick that will make this country the richest in the universe.

1. Implement my plan
2. Implement yours
3. Sabotage condoms
4. Party like it's 1999 (e.g. happier times).

No need to sabotage condoms at all, put a

€30 tax on each packet of condoms
€100 tax on morning after pill
€5k tax on having a kid
Profit

xclw · 20-01-2012 01:53AM

i think i would try and undo what fianna fáil did and try and get the profit from the natural gas field that Shell get 100% of. it's our natural gas worth millions and yet we don't even get 1% or profit from it

General General · 20-01-2012 01:57AM

Has anyone suggested printing loads of euros, y'know, the ones with the T on the serial number, or.... or.... or.... even better, print loads of euros with an X on the serial number... or... or... or.... even better, print loads of euros with a Q or maybe a J on the serial number... how we will all laugh out loud when our euro-cousins try figuring out where all these fu.cken notes are coming from... especially the Q ones.

hattoncracker · 20-01-2012 02:17AM

Firstly, I would cut the dole.. Not a popular decision, but its way higher than it needs to be. If people in the UK can survive on £60 a week, then people in Ireland can take a cut of even €20 a week.
Means test it, as in if people still live at home with their parents, give them less because they're not paying rent, and make it mandatory for landlords to accept rent allowance.

Investigate benefit fraud, its rampant. People are claiming for stuff that they aren't entitled to, and making it way harder for people who actually need the money to get it. If they'd spent more time investigating this then they might not have had to make cuts to carer's allowance, etc.

Taxing the rich in Ireland won't work, most of these richest of the rich have their hands in a lot of Multinationals in Ireland, and they'll just pull and go elsewhere if that starts happening.

No college fees, I don't care what it costs the government, it's a sound investment for our future. Companies wishing to settle here need a workforce that are qualified. 80% of software engineers in Ireland are outsourced from different countries because we don't have the graduates to fill the positions.

Morrisseeee · 20-01-2012 12:05PM

hattoncracker wrote: »

Taxing the rich in Ireland won't work

Taxing the less well off won't work either, the well will run dry very soon.

As regards a solution, I think we should do something with Transport. Most families have 2 cars, and the cost of buying these cars & running them is astronomical (initial cost/insurance/tax/NCT/service/tolls/petrol/parts etc). A possible solution might be to revamp our rail network, employ people building new networks & maintainance/service/admin, the investment will eventually be paid back.

We need the people (gobsheens) in power to be more creative, come up with ideas that will generate jobs & growth, & not creative in applying more TAX on an already weakened & hurting population.

TheZohanS · 20-01-2012 12:17PM

hattoncracker wrote: »

Firstly, I would cut the dole.. Not a popular decision, but its way higher than it needs to be. If people in the UK can survive on £60 a week, then people in Ireland can take a cut of even €20 a week.
Means test it, as in if people still live at home with their parents, give them less because they're not paying rent, and make it mandatory for landlords to accept rent allowance.

Investigate benefit fraud, its rampant. People are claiming for stuff that they aren't entitled to, and making it way harder for people who actually need the money to get it. If they'd spent more time investigating this then they might not have had to make cuts to carer's allowance, etc.

Taxing the rich in Ireland won't work, most of these richest of the rich have their hands in a lot of Multinationals in Ireland, and they'll just pull and go elsewhere if that starts happening.

No college fees, I don't care what it costs the government, it's a sound investment for our future. Companies wishing to settle here need a workforce that are qualified. 80% of software engineers in Ireland are outsourced from different countries because we don't have the graduates to fill the positions.

Let me guess, you're not on the dole, are possibly in receipt of some rent allowance and are currently in college?

So tax everything that doesn't effect me?

Eric Cartman · 20-01-2012 07:16PM

Benny_Cake wrote: »

For one thing, how would abolishing the RSA help us out of the recession? Or how would allowing 24 hour off licences help us out of the recession?

saves money on a useless service

gives people the chance to spend more money - more tax revenue , and generates jobs

Giblet · 20-01-2012 07:19PM

Kill the poor.

Robdude · 20-01-2012 07:22PM

Leave the country.

Get a job in a new country that pays more, has less taxes, and a lower cost of living.

Robdude · 20-01-2012 07:25PM

hattoncracker wrote: »

Firstly, I would cut the dole.. Not a popular decision, but its way higher than it needs to be. If people in the UK can survive on £60 a week, then people in Ireland can take a cut of even €20 a week.
Means test it, as in if people still live at home with their parents, give them less because they're not paying rent, and make it mandatory for landlords to accept rent allowance.

Investigate benefit fraud, its rampant. People are claiming for stuff that they aren't entitled to, and making it way harder for people who actually need the money to get it. If they'd spent more time investigating this then they might not have had to make cuts to carer's allowance, etc.

Taxing the rich in Ireland won't work, most of these richest of the rich have their hands in a lot of Multinationals in Ireland, and they'll just pull and go elsewhere if that starts happening.

No college fees, I don't care what it costs the government, it's a sound investment for our future. Companies wishing to settle here need a workforce that are qualified. 80% of software engineers in Ireland are outsourced from different countries because we don't have the graduates to fill the positions.

I gotta disagree. Free college just turns it into a big party where the slackers ruin things for the kids who want to learn and be successful.

Nolanger · 20-01-2012 07:27PM

Also, the education system is dumbed down enough already without letting everyone in. It's not the college's fault that we don't have the software engineers. Apart from some brains, nothing else stopping people teaching programming skills themsleves?

Robdude · 20-01-2012 07:31PM

Nolanger wrote: »

Also, the education system is dumbed down enough already without letting everyone in. It's not the college's fault that we don't have the software engineers. Apart from some brains, nothing else stopping people teaching programming skills themsleves?

Software is probably a unique example because of how (comparatively) easy it is to learn on your own. You can watch all of the lectures/get all of the materials used at the best Universities (like MIT) for free. You can get countless books, countless examples, countless tools, all for free.

If you can afford a basic computer and internet connection - you have everything you need to achieve a PhD level understanding in Software Engineering/Computer Science.

I think a lot of other subjects would require hands-on training, labs, and expensive equipment.

Doc Ruby · 20-01-2012 07:34PM

Nolanger wrote: »

Also, the education system is dumbed down enough already without letting everyone in. It's not the college's fault that we don't have the software engineers. Apart from some brains, nothing else stopping people teaching programming skills themsleves?

There's no problem with maintaining standards. There's a big problem with situations like you get in America, where someone that wants to better themselves and should be capable of doing so can't for financial reasons.

AudreyHepburn · 20-01-2012 07:37PM

TheZohan wrote: »

I think he was referring to her comment: That's not supporting yourself or helping out your folks.

I haven't given anything to the folks up till now because I have had no job and so no money.

Now I'm working I will of course give them something.

If you think I sponge of parents and sit on my ass being waited on hand and foot you're sorely mistaken.

I fund every aspect of my life myself.

The Recession......your solutions?

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