Would you pay the new broadcast charge?

frozenfrozen · 18-01-2012 06:44PM

Makes no difference to me - I pay my television license.

Galtee · 18-01-2012 06:47PM

This is just a way of making sure people can't save money by dumping their TV. It's disgraceful. If this sort of thing (driving the people into the ground) was happening in Iraq there'd be bloody murder over it and here it's right on our doorstep. Disgraceful, they should be all lined up against the wall IMHO.

My name is URL · 18-01-2012 06:47PM

I'd sooner pay it than the TV license

mikom · 18-01-2012 06:48PM

frozenfrozen wrote: »

Makes no difference to me - I pay my television license.

You'll be paying more when this comes in.
Enjoy.

Temptamperu · 18-01-2012 06:48PM

Ive said it before, pay the swine minimum wages and see how quick the taxes dissapear.

aidan_walsh · 18-01-2012 06:50PM

I do hope everyone who refuses to pay the TV license because of one show they don't like cancels their subscription TV services for the same reason.

Galtee · 18-01-2012 06:51PM

Temptamperu wrote: »

Ive said it before, pay the swine minimum wages and see how quick the taxes dissapear.

You've inadvertantly hit the nail on the head. The problem is that they are so detached from reality that they don't realise the pain they're causing and pressure they're putting people under. They should all have to live on average wage for a year to be able to relate to the vast majority of the people they're governing.

Galtee · 18-01-2012 06:52PM

aidan_walsh wrote: »

I do hope everyone who refuses to pay the TV license because of one show they don't like cancels their subscription TV services for the same reason.

At least they have a choice with the TV subscriptions.

simit · 18-01-2012 06:53PM

What next!?

Bannasidhe · 18-01-2012 06:54PM

Galtee wrote: »

You've inadvertantly hit the nail on the head. The problem is that they are so detached from reality that they don't realise the pain they're causing and pressure they're putting people under. They should all have to live on average wage for a year to be able to relate to the vast majority of the people they're governing.

You've inadvertantly hit the nail on the head. The problem is that they are so detached from reality that they don't realise the pain they're causing and pressure they're putting people under. They should all have to live on average wage to be able to relate to the vast majority of the people they're governing

ilovesleep · 18-01-2012 06:56PM

What kind of evasion is happening for those who don't have a tv and for those who are changing their tv habits by getting rid of their tv and replacing with a monitor or a home projection kid?

How exactly are such people evading the rte tv license?

And for those who do have a tv and not paying - the license fee is old and outdated and came in at a time when equipment such as dvd players and games consoles and sky were not available and IMO that is what tvs are used for now and not to watch RTE.

What is wrong with RTE becoming efficient? How much money could they save by making some changes?

Pat kenny is on a wage of 600,000 euro PA. Its too much.
Other people:
Ryan Tuberity?
Joe Duffy?
Ann Doyle?
Dobison?
Other 'stars'

Their wages are over inflated.

Other measures
How much money is it costing them to show programs that are on other sky/ntl chanels - imported stuff like:
Home and away
The Bill
Eastenders

I'm sure there could be loads more that could be added here.

TG4 and TV3 are two fantastic channels that are run on lower budgets than RTE. I think RTE should be got rid of entirely especially the tv channels (i'm not sure about the radio) and move anything homegrown and programs that are good over to TG4 and TV3.

RTE are dying a slow death and they are pinching from peoples pockets to keep it alive. yet it's dead in so many homes.

ilovesleep · 18-01-2012 07:04PM

jarecki1976 wrote: »

18/01/2012 - 16:51:14
The Communications Minister has revealed that he is considering introducing a new broadcasting charge, which would apply to every household - whether they have a television or not.

Pat Rabbitte's told the Dáil that RTÉ is losing €25m a year in licence fee payments because of evasion.

The proposed new charge would apply to people who view television on their computers and smartphones, and would be collected along with the new household charge.

The Minister said that his Department had concluded that the charge is a "viable model".

Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/minister-considering-broadcasting-charge-whether-you-have-a-tv-or-not-536421.html#ixzz1jpg6SJ7n

but if someone doesn't have a computer/smartphone then what?

BULLSH1T.

My brother can get netflix on his mobile for 7 euro a month. He has thousands and thousands of things to pick from and now he will be charged for it and the money is going towards RTE which he doesn't even watch.

mikom · 18-01-2012 07:06PM

Fridge and cooker tax on the way next.

msg11 · 18-01-2012 07:13PM

Can these inspectors just brust into your home without a warrent?

What I am saying is , just tell them you don't have one of the devices and **** off. A broadcast licence? What are we even broadcasting, is it not receiving what we are doing ? Tell them something for nothing, they could close RTE down tomorrow and ditch the TV licence and the people of Ireland wouldn't give too ****s!

Biggins · 18-01-2012 07:13PM

ilovesleep wrote: »

My brother can get netflix on his mobile for 7 euro a month. He has thousands and thousands of things to pick from and now he will be charged for it and the money is going towards RTE which he doesn't even watch.

Same here.
Yet your being told that your paying for it - like it or lump it!

zeds alive · 18-01-2012 07:15PM

Haven't paid the TV license in 10+ years , cant see me paying this either.

gurramok · 18-01-2012 07:19PM

msg11 wrote: »

Can these inspectors just brust into your home without a warrent?

What I am saying is , just tell them you don't have one of the devices and **** off. A broadcast licence? What are we even broadcasting, is it not receiving what we are doing ? Tell them something for nothing, they could close RTE down tomorrow and ditch the TV licence and the people of Ireland wouldn't give too ****s!

The TV licence will be replaced by this new charge hence the dole for the inspectors or more likely re-assigned somewhere else. The charge will be collected similar to the household charge and yes it is really unfair and unjust that it will be collected from everyone even if they never watched RTE in their life.

Biggins · 18-01-2012 07:25PM

msg11 wrote: »

Can these inspectors just brust into your home without a warrent?

What I am saying is , just tell them you don't have one of the devices and **** off. A broadcast licence? What are we even broadcasting, is it not receiving what we are doing ? Tell them something for nothing, they could close RTE down tomorrow and ditch the TV licence and the people of Ireland wouldn't give too ****s!

In the UK it appears they can some say - others differ (SEE HERE) - as seeing as we often use some of their laws later, I've a sneaking suspicion the Irish equivalent might can too but with justification and reason?

Open to be very wrong. Probably am.

SafeSurfer · 18-01-2012 07:28PM

So the household charge will now be 260 even before the site valuation charge is introduced.

Water charges are estimated at 250 to 400 per house per year.

But at least the government can say we kept our promise not to raise income tax.

Biggins · 18-01-2012 07:34PM

SafeSurfer wrote: »

So the household charge will now be 260 even before the site valuation charge is introduced.

Water charges are estimated at 250 to 400 per house per year.

But at least the government can say we kept our promise not to raise income tax.

By initially looking at that - your better off not actually owning a home?
If thats the case, the building industry thats trying to start up again, might be severely hit again if many come to that conclusion!

Well done FG and Labour (FF and Greens - part two)

Paparazzo · 18-01-2012 07:34PM

They should make TV cable and satalite packages that don't have RTE, and if you subscribe to one, you don't have to pay this charge, or the licence.

Will Joe Duffy cover this one? Will he fúck

And the RTÉ National Symphony Orchestra can suck my balls

mikom · 18-01-2012 07:35PM

SafeSurfer wrote: »

So the household charge will now be 260 even before the site valuation charge is introduced.

Water charges are estimated at 250 to 400 per house per year.

But at least the government can say we kept our promise not to raise income tax.

And all money that will not be spent in you local shops and pubs.
Prepare for the tumbleweeds as more businesses close.
This country is going nowhere.

Cherrycola · 18-01-2012 07:38PM

So really this is a charge on owning a laptop/PC/smartphone?! Anything that you can watch TV on even if you dont?! :rolleyes:

TheZohanS · 18-01-2012 07:39PM

I think it's a great idea.

mikom · 18-01-2012 07:40PM

Cherrycola wrote: »

So really this is a charge on owning a laptop/PC/smartphone?! Anything that you can watch TV on even if you dont?! :rolleyes:

Yep........... even a Sega Gamegear with tv adaptor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WEqIwEF0Ag

ilovesleep · 18-01-2012 07:40PM

mikom wrote: »

And all money that will not be spent in you local shops and pubs.
Prepare for the tumbleweeds as more businesses close.
This country is going nowhere.

All to pay an over inflated public system - ps wages, pensions, sw; further driving a wedge between people and transferring wealth.

Stripey Cat · 18-01-2012 07:41PM

Biggins wrote: »

In the UK it appears they can some say - others differ (SEE HERE) - as seeing as we often use some of their laws later, I've a sneaking suspicion the Irish equivalent might can too but with justification and reason?

Er, what?

vibe666 · 18-01-2012 07:43PM

coming soon from the government that bought you the blanket broadcast tax for everyone: motor tax for pedestrians!

sure, no reason not to tax you for using the roads just because you don't have a car. :rolleyes:

Biggins · 18-01-2012 07:43PM

Look lads and lassies, they don't give a damn about us. You know it and they know we know it.

Whats more, Noonan today assured German bankers: ‘Ireland will not burn senior bondholders’" (HERE)
...And thats after they stated in the election manifesto: “Fine Gael in Government will force certain classes of bondholders to share in the cost of recapitalising troubled financial institutions”
...And Labour said at election time: “Is it Labour’s way or Frankfurt way” – Eamon Gilmore

,,,but then again, Noonan WANTS the public to pay on the German bonds - seeing as he owns some of them!
True - see: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2011/0409/1224294305462.html

Register shows Minister for Finance owns German bonds

So give out all you want - they aren't listening though and they don't give a fcuk!

D1stant · 18-01-2012 07:47PM

If they continue on this route those in NE will just pack up and leave or move towards strategic default. The people who got most screwed in the last 10 years - middle class who bought overvalued homes are now being drained again.

Plus landlords (a house with 6 bedsits pays 6 property charges) will sell up lowering the price of houses and depressing building trade even further

Pat Rabbite Labour TD. Mr. Indignant man of the people in opposition, now a notch above SonderKommando. What a cu*t

Im starting to miss FF. Must be delusional

Would you pay the new broadcast charge?

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