Would you pay the new broadcast charge?

gurramok

Just heard on the radio about this new charge that will apply to every household whether you have a tv or not!!
Link here http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/minister-considering-broadcasting-charge-whether-you-have-a-tv-or-not-536421.html
(Assumption is that it will cost at least as the existing tv licence fee) Slightly more info http://www.independent.ie/national-news/new-household-broadcasting-charge-could-replace-tv-licence-fee-minister-rabbitte-2993465.html

He added that it was mostly younger people who are using other devices to access broadcasting.

Discussions have already taken place with the Department of the Environment about accessing a database of houses.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0118/breaking61.html

A Department of Communications working group has concluded that a household broadcasting charge to replace the TV licence fee “is a viable model’’, the Dáil has been told.

It will be collected similar to the new household charge, so will you pay it?

Fromthetrees

I want to be left alone. :mad:

seamus

Would I have a choice?

I pay my TV licence, so I'd have no problem with this, provided that the TV licence was abolished.

Cpt. Kelloggs

This is getting a bit ridiculous. We'll be taxed to breathe soon.

strobe

Ohh ffs! That's it 17:24, 18/01/2012, I'm calling it. Everyone grab a broom.

TPD

strobe wrote: »

Ohh ffs! That's it 17:24, 18/01/2012, I'm calling it. Everyone grab a broom.

I'd try typing the word we're both thinking but I can never spell it properly.

Jagle

Just one quote from the article


"Pat Rabbitte's told the Dáil that RTÉ is losing €25m a year in licence fee payments because of evasion."

so people dont pay the current charge, so if they rename it and change the law they think these people who arnt paying will all of a sudden start paying?

or are they gonna up the costs to cover some of the 25million a year they are losing out on??


Can we all please lobby to our local TD's to stop this??

superman123

what charge is this?

Hart

"Pat Rabbitte's told the Dáil that RTÉ is losing €25m a year in licence fee payments because of evasion."

I would argue that RTE is losing so much money because of inept management and the ridiculiously powerful unions in Montrose. Let's not forget this is an organisation that at one stage was paying Pat Kenny almost a million a year.

Biggins

Yahoo - another basically charge on the home and everything in it!
A great bunch of lads they are!

:mad:

Yes, I know its supposedly replacing the TV licence but this new 'charge' is supposed to cover everything but the money is still going to RTE services, etc!
(If I want them or not!)

I'm paying ALREADY for similar services on devices each time I top-up or pay additional bills!

...Not that that matters to FG or Labour!

LordSutch

If its going to replace the current TV licence, then fair enough . . .

SEPT 23 1989

The vice is tightening:mad:

SeaFields

Just....cant....take .....any....more.....taxes

Eric Cartman

"rte is losing €25m a year from evasion" NO ! rte is wasting 25 million a year making shít tv I dont want to pay for and paying for tubbs and his pals to live it up.

I have never paid a tv licence and I dont intend to pay for anything that gives rte money

Penn

WHAT DO WE WANT?
FEWER TAXES!

WHEN DO WE WANT IT?
BEFORE WE'RE FORCED TO PAY A PROTEST TAX!

LighterGuy

Everyone is screwed. Everyone has to pay.

Sure, if you usually pay the tv licence and decide not to pay this? ... you'll get a tv inspector knocking at your door. Since you're already on the system.

Degsy

Wont pay and Fcuck em!

Guill

I won't pay.

Why?

This.

mikom

Another reason not to register for the household charge.

Galtee

When the fcuk is this all going to Enda? How fcuking stupid are they in there that they can't see that they can't keep screwing people. They are a bunch of fcuking quarter arses IMHO.

Duggy747

Considering I don't even have or want a TV they can fùck right off.

gurramok

Lovely names they come up for these taxes. Household charge=property tax. Broadcast charge= RTE tax. TV3 will not get a cent!

Raytown Rocks

I presume the new charge will be more than the current Tv licence?
Anyone got an idea how much its going to be?

Jarren

18/01/2012 - 16:51:14
The Communications Minister has revealed that he is considering introducing a new broadcasting charge, which would apply to every household - whether they have a television or not.

Pat Rabbitte's told the Dáil that RTÉ is losing €25m a year in licence fee payments because of evasion.

The proposed new charge would apply to people who view television on their computers and smartphones, and would be collected along with the new household charge.

The Minister said that his Department had concluded that the charge is a "viable model".


Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/minister-considering-broadcasting-charge-whether-you-have-a-tv-or-not-536421.html#ixzz1jpg6SJ7n

but if someone doesn't have a computer/smartphone then what?

c_man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Maz9ddxEQnM

Guill

jarecki1976 wrote: »

but if someone doesn't have a computer/smartphone then what?

Pay up, that's what.

DonkeyStyle \o/

Yes! More taxes please, I have far too much money, none of which is going to local businesses at all.

Hart wrote: »

"Pat Rabbitte's told the Dáil that RTÉ is losing €25m a year in licence fee payments because of evasion."

So you can count the number of households that should have licenses but don't... you just don't know who they are? Very interesting.

Degsy

Incompetent scum..who the fcuck needs RTE anyway? Nothing but rubbish shows and talentless presenters/actors.

Sell teh whole complex off like they want to do with the ESB.

Duggy747

Considering I don't even have a TV they can fùck right off!

Coughing up money so that stick insect Tubridy can lick some other pathetic excuse of an Irish personality's arse while he gleefully ignores any serious topics so he can cater to the older audiences and join them with his snide sarcasm in anything that's different from 1970's Ireland?

Or hear about RTÈ splashing out on yet another tired reality format saturated to death by the English broadcasters just so they can trot out the same TV personalties again & again & again?

No. Fùckin'. Thanks.

mattjack

Guill wrote: »

I won't pay.

Why?

This.

BASTARD...my eyes..that blonde thing.

Stephen

I'm glad I got the **** out of Ireland when I did.

frozenfrozen

Makes no difference to me - I pay my television license.

Galtee

This is just a way of making sure people can't save money by dumping their TV. It's disgraceful. If this sort of thing (driving the people into the ground) was happening in Iraq there'd be bloody murder over it and here it's right on our doorstep. Disgraceful, they should be all lined up against the wall IMHO.

My name is URL

I'd sooner pay it than the TV license

mikom

frozenfrozen wrote: »

Makes no difference to me - I pay my television license.

You'll be paying more when this comes in.
Enjoy.

Temptamperu

Ive said it before, pay the swine minimum wages and see how quick the taxes dissapear.

aidan_walsh

I do hope everyone who refuses to pay the TV license because of one show they don't like cancels their subscription TV services for the same reason.

Galtee

Temptamperu wrote: »

Ive said it before, pay the swine minimum wages and see how quick the taxes dissapear.

You've inadvertantly hit the nail on the head. The problem is that they are so detached from reality that they don't realise the pain they're causing and pressure they're putting people under. They should all have to live on average wage for a year to be able to relate to the vast majority of the people they're governing.

Galtee

aidan_walsh wrote: »

I do hope everyone who refuses to pay the TV license because of one show they don't like cancels their subscription TV services for the same reason.

At least they have a choice with the TV subscriptions.

simit

What next!?

Bannasidhe

Galtee wrote: »

You've inadvertantly hit the nail on the head. The problem is that they are so detached from reality that they don't realise the pain they're causing and pressure they're putting people under. They should all have to live on average wage for a year to be able to relate to the vast majority of the people they're governing.

You've inadvertantly hit the nail on the head. The problem is that they are so detached from reality that they don't realise the pain they're causing and pressure they're putting people under. They should all have to live on average wage to be able to relate to the vast majority of the people they're governing

ilovesleep

What kind of evasion is happening for those who don't have a tv and for those who are changing their tv habits by getting rid of their tv and replacing with a monitor or a home projection kid?

How exactly are such people evading the rte tv license?

And for those who do have a tv and not paying - the license fee is old and outdated and came in at a time when equipment such as dvd players and games consoles and sky were not available and IMO that is what tvs are used for now and not to watch RTE.

What is wrong with RTE becoming efficient? How much money could they save by making some changes?

Pat kenny is on a wage of 600,000 euro PA. Its too much.
Other people:
Ryan Tuberity?
Joe Duffy?
Ann Doyle?
Dobison?
Other 'stars'

Their wages are over inflated.

Other measures
How much money is it costing them to show programs that are on other sky/ntl chanels - imported stuff like:
Home and away
The Bill
Eastenders

I'm sure there could be loads more that could be added here.

TG4 and TV3 are two fantastic channels that are run on lower budgets than RTE. I think RTE should be got rid of entirely especially the tv channels (i'm not sure about the radio) and move anything homegrown and programs that are good over to TG4 and TV3.

RTE are dying a slow death and they are pinching from peoples pockets to keep it alive. yet it's dead in so many homes.

ilovesleep

jarecki1976 wrote: »

18/01/2012 - 16:51:14
The Communications Minister has revealed that he is considering introducing a new broadcasting charge, which would apply to every household - whether they have a television or not.

Pat Rabbitte's told the Dáil that RTÉ is losing €25m a year in licence fee payments because of evasion.

The proposed new charge would apply to people who view television on their computers and smartphones, and would be collected along with the new household charge.

The Minister said that his Department had concluded that the charge is a "viable model".


Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/minister-considering-broadcasting-charge-whether-you-have-a-tv-or-not-536421.html#ixzz1jpg6SJ7n

but if someone doesn't have a computer/smartphone then what?

BULLSH1T.

My brother can get netflix on his mobile for 7 euro a month. He has thousands and thousands of things to pick from and now he will be charged for it and the money is going towards RTE which he doesn't even watch.

mikom

Fridge and cooker tax on the way next.

msg11

Can these inspectors just brust into your home without a warrent?

What I am saying is , just tell them you don't have one of the devices and **** off. A broadcast licence? What are we even broadcasting, is it not receiving what we are doing ? Tell them something for nothing, they could close RTE down tomorrow and ditch the TV licence and the people of Ireland wouldn't give too ****s!

Biggins

ilovesleep wrote: »

My brother can get netflix on his mobile for 7 euro a month. He has thousands and thousands of things to pick from and now he will be charged for it and the money is going towards RTE which he doesn't even watch.

Same here.
Yet your being told that your paying for it - like it or lump it!

zeds alive

Haven't paid the TV license in 10+ years , cant see me paying this either.

gurramok

msg11 wrote: »

Can these inspectors just brust into your home without a warrent?

What I am saying is , just tell them you don't have one of the devices and **** off. A broadcast licence? What are we even broadcasting, is it not receiving what we are doing ? Tell them something for nothing, they could close RTE down tomorrow and ditch the TV licence and the people of Ireland wouldn't give too ****s!

The TV licence will be replaced by this new charge hence the dole for the inspectors or more likely re-assigned somewhere else. The charge will be collected similar to the household charge and yes it is really unfair and unjust that it will be collected from everyone even if they never watched RTE in their life.

Biggins

msg11 wrote: »

Can these inspectors just brust into your home without a warrent?

What I am saying is , just tell them you don't have one of the devices and **** off. A broadcast licence? What are we even broadcasting, is it not receiving what we are doing ? Tell them something for nothing, they could close RTE down tomorrow and ditch the TV licence and the people of Ireland wouldn't give too ****s!

In the UK it appears they can some say - others differ (SEE HERE) - as seeing as we often use some of their laws later, I've a sneaking suspicion the Irish equivalent might can too but with justification and reason?

Open to be very wrong. Probably am.

SafeSurfer

So the household charge will now be 260 even before the site valuation charge is introduced.

Water charges are estimated at 250 to 400 per house per year.

But at least the government can say we kept our promise not to raise income tax.

Biggins

SafeSurfer wrote: »

So the household charge will now be 260 even before the site valuation charge is introduced.

Water charges are estimated at 250 to 400 per house per year.

But at least the government can say we kept our promise not to raise income tax.

By initially looking at that - your better off not actually owning a home?
If thats the case, the building industry thats trying to start up again, might be severely hit again if many come to that conclusion!

Well done FG and Labour (FF and Greens - part two)