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Oh NO! What will I do without Wikipedia!

  • 17-01-2012 07:23AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,607 ✭✭✭


    http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia_anti-SOPA_blackout

    Today, the Wikipedia community announced its decision to black out the English-language Wikipedia for 24 hours, worldwide, beginning at 05:00 UTC on Wednesday, January 18 (you can read the statement from the Wikimedia Foundation here). The blackout is a protest against proposed legislation in the United States—the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) in the U.S. House of Representatives, and the PROTECTIP Act (PIPA) in the U.S. Senate—that, if passed, would seriously damage the free and open Internet, including Wikipedia.

    All that factual unbiased and information - gone ( well for 24 hrs anyway)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,298 ✭✭✭✭later12


    Do you know what this means?

    People will have to stick to topics they know or understand!!

    :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    SOPA has been suspended by congress after the white house said although piracy is awful censorship and impeding free speech is not the way to fix it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭Babybuff


    no worries I downloaded the internet earlier


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Or they are still begging for donations and want to shut it down for a day

    You sometimes don't appreciate something until it's gone

    And when it goes back up the donations will flood in

    Just my cynical view :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,298 ✭✭✭✭later12


    Quite a credit to wikipedia that you can read all about SOPA on their page in, it seems to me, a thoroughly balanced and honest manner - complete with warnings that the neutrality of their SOPA article may be disputable.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act#Companies_and_organizations_2

    Reminds me of the Benjamin Hayden quote - "for the serious mind, a bias recognized is a bias sterilized".

    This website has come on so much from the less dependable form it was in some years back.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    People should boycott the companies pushing this legislation.

    List here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,298 ✭✭✭✭later12


    I understand why they're against it, but it's a little disheartening to see so many educational companies on that list.

    Surely given the line of work they're in, they could come up with a more ingenious and innovative way of regulating how their information is shared, instead of going straight for the censorship route.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭Mercurius


    SOPA has been suspended by congress after the white house said although piracy is awful censorship and impeding free speech is not the way to fix it.

    They still have PIPA on the go though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    Mercurius wrote: »
    They still have PIPA on the go though.

    I'd give her a go too.

    http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/apr2011/2/8/pippa-middleton-pic-dm-image-2-901800535.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    People should boycott the companies pushing this legislation.

    List here

    That would involve never going to the cinema or buying an album on itunes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,646 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    "What say you congressman?"

    - "Technology is hard for us fogeys to understand and it's scary. I propose we kill it"

    "All in favour say aye!"..............


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,279 ✭✭✭Lady Chuckles


    later10 wrote: »
    Do you know what this means?

    People will have to stick to topics they know or understand!!

    :eek:

    Or read it in another language? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    kraggy wrote: »
    That would involve never going to the cinema or buying an album on itunes.

    I'm proud to say that I don't own an Apple product, and also can't be arsed visiting my local flea-pit to get ripped off, so that's me sorted.:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    People should boycott the companies pushing this legislation.

    List here

    You're right. I'm fcuking out of that Association Of Talent Agents immediately!


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,496 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Or read it in another language? :pac:

    Any other language except Italian.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Dont wikipedia know students have assignments to finish!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,037 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    :eek: A 24 hour shutdown...... this is it.... 2012.....this is how it starts... the end is nigh.

    Oh those pesky Mayans and their foresights and five ears......damn you Mayans...DAMN YOU!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,351 ✭✭✭Orando Broom


    later10 wrote: »
    Do you know what this means?

    People will have to stick to topics they know or understand!!

    :eek:

    That's ok for you to say but as Stewart Baker, former first Assistant Secretary for Policy at the Department of Homeland Security and former General Counsel of the National Security Agency, stated that SOPA would do "great damage to Internet security"[65] by undermining Domain Name System Security Extensions (DNSSEC), a proposed security upgrade for DNS, since a browser must treat all redirects the same, and must continue to search until it finds a DNS server (possibly overseas) providing untampered results.[65] On December 14, 2011 he wrote that SOPA was "badly in need of a knockout punch" due to its impact on security and DNS:[65]

    from the [Attorney General]’s point of view, the browser’s efforts to find an authoritative DNS server will look like a deliberate effort to evade his blocking order. The latest version of SOPA will feed that view. It allows the AG to sue “any entity that knowingly and willfully provides ... a product ... designed by such entity or by another in concert with such entity for the circumvention or bypassing of” the AG’s blocking orders. It’s hard to escape the conclusion that this provision is aimed squarely at the browser companies. Browsers implementing DNSSEC will have to circumvent and bypass criminal blocking, and in the process, they will also circumvent and bypass SOPA orders.
    DNSSEC is a set of protocols developed by the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) for ensuring internet security. A white paper by the Brookings Institution noted, "The DNS system is based on trust," adding that DNSSEC was developed to prevent malicious redirection of DNS traffic, and that "other forms of redirection will break the assurances from this security tool."[75]

    On November 17, Sandia National Laboratories, a research agency of the U.S. Department of Energy, released a technical assessment of the DNS filtering provisions in the House and Senate bills, in response to Representative Zoe Lofgren's (D-CA) request. The assessment stated that the proposed DNS filtering would be unlikely to be effective, would negatively impact internet security, and would delay full implementation of DNSSEC.[76][77]

    On November 18, House Cybersecurity Subcommittee chair Dan Lungren stated that he had "very serious concerns" about SOPA's impact on DNSSEC, adding, "we don't have enough information, and if this is a serious problem as was suggested by some of the technical experts that got in touch with me, we have to address it."[78]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭Brendog


    Well its their own loss. I was planning on eating the salmon of knowledge tomorrow.

    Guess I'll just have to give years of history to someone else....:(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    I'm more worried about Reddit being down for a day! I'll go insane!


    (also it's the 18th the sites are going down).


  • Site Banned Posts: 233 ✭✭vader65


    Tomorrow should be made National Library Day, and have all the wiki users having to venture outdoors and feel paper again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Great, I don't have to see Jimmy fu***in Wales giving me his soulful kevin costner look while begging for readies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    stoneill wrote: »
    http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia_anti-SOPA_blackout

    Today, the Wikipedia community announced its decision to black out the English-language Wikipedia for 24 hours, worldwide, beginning at 05:00 UTC on Wednesday, January 18 (you can read the statement from the Wikimedia Foundation here). The blackout is a protest against proposed legislation in the United States—the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) in the U.S. House of Representatives, and the PROTECTIP Act (PIPA) in the U.S. Senate—that, if passed, would seriously damage the free and open Internet, including Wikipedia.

    All that factual unbiased and information - gone ( well for 24 hrs anyway)

    Is that what those appeals from the founder were about? I wondered what they were about, not enough to read them obviously, but i wondered nonetheless!:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    later10 wrote: »
    This website has come on so much from the less dependable form it was in some years back.

    [citation needed]


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Owl Tickler


    Bambi wrote: »
    Great, I don't have to see Jimmy fu***in Wales giving me his soulful kevin costner look while begging for readies

    That makes no sense. You only see him on the Wikipedia site anyway, so you could just not go there any time you don't want to see him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    Wiki is truly a public service website it really is a worldwide treasure and something that all us internet users takes for granted. Jimmy Wales the founder gave an open source encyclopedia to the world. To put what he did and is doing in perspective you have to consider what the man has given up from his altruism.

    Although with the Internet we have the option of any sites, if you analyses world wide usage we mainly use very few sites. These are Google, Facebook, twitter, ebay and Wiki these are the most visited sites on the WWW each one is worth many billions, but Wiki has resisted commercialisation and kept itself open and resisted all earlier offers of multi billion dollar offers.

    Its a worldwide public library, its altruism, its for the good of mankind.

    But even I as a pirate of media recognise that I am living in the golden age of piracy and it has to stop. I know its wrong and it is not a victimless crime, but hey, its easy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Jesus Shaves




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Stiffler2


    Ye - I've heard they're just doing this for the money.

    (eg) scare google, wiki, yahoo, microsoft, apple etc into paying for lobbyists

    which goes back into the government in the US so it's just a ploy to get donations from the big online companies.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,646 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Stiffler2 wrote: »
    Ye - I've heard they're just doing this for the money.

    (eg) scare google, wiki, yahoo, microsoft, apple etc into paying for lobbyists

    which goes back into the government in the US so it's just a ploy to get donations from the big online companies.

    Who did you hear this from exactly?


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