Oh NO! What will I do without Wikipedia!

stoneill

http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia_anti-SOPA_blackout

Today, the Wikipedia community announced its decision to black out the English-language Wikipedia for 24 hours, worldwide, beginning at 05:00 UTC on Wednesday, January 18 (you can read the statement from the Wikimedia Foundation here). The blackout is a protest against proposed legislation in the United States—the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) in the U.S. House of Representatives, and the PROTECTIP Act (PIPA) in the U.S. Senate—that, if passed, would seriously damage the free and open Internet, including Wikipedia.

All that factual unbiased and information - gone ( well for 24 hrs anyway)

later12

Do you know what this means?

People will have to stick to topics they know or understand!!

:eek:

Temptamperu

SOPA has been suspended by congress after the white house said although piracy is awful censorship and impeding free speech is not the way to fix it.

Babybuff

no worries I downloaded the internet earlier

mikemac1

Or they are still begging for donations and want to shut it down for a day

You sometimes don't appreciate something until it's gone

And when it goes back up the donations will flood in

Just my cynical view

later12

Quite a credit to wikipedia that you can read all about SOPA on their page in, it seems to me, a thoroughly balanced and honest manner - complete with warnings that the neutrality of their SOPA article may be disputable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act#Companies_and_organizations_2

Reminds me of the Benjamin Hayden quote - "for the serious mind, a bias recognized is a bias sterilized".

This website has come on so much from the less dependable form it was in some years back.

Chuck Stone

People should boycott the companies pushing this legislation.

List here

later12

I understand why they're against it, but it's a little disheartening to see so many educational companies on that list.

Surely given the line of work they're in, they could come up with a more ingenious and innovative way of regulating how their information is shared, instead of going straight for the censorship route.

Mercurius

Temptamperu wrote: »

SOPA has been suspended by congress after the white house said although piracy is awful censorship and impeding free speech is not the way to fix it.

They still have PIPA on the go though.

Jumpy

Mercurius wrote: »

They still have PIPA on the go though.

I'd give her a go too.

http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/apr2011/2/8/pippa-middleton-pic-dm-image-2-901800535.jpg

kraggy

Chuck Stone wrote: »

People should boycott the companies pushing this legislation.

List here

That would involve never going to the cinema or buying an album on itunes.

MrStuffins

"What say you congressman?"

- "Technology is hard for us fogeys to understand and it's scary. I propose we kill it"

"All in favour say aye!"..............

Lady Chuckles

later10 wrote: »

Do you know what this means?

People will have to stick to topics they know or understand!!

:eek:

Or read it in another language? :pac:

ejmaztec

kraggy wrote: »

That would involve never going to the cinema or buying an album on itunes.

I'm proud to say that I don't own an Apple product, and also can't be arsed visiting my local flea-pit to get ripped off, so that's me sorted.:pac:

Freddie59

Chuck Stone wrote: »

People should boycott the companies pushing this legislation.

List here

You're right. I'm fcuking out of that Association Of Talent Agents immediately!

pickarooney

Lady Chuckles wrote: »

Or read it in another language? :pac:

Any other language except Italian.

the groutch

As Gaeilge: http://ga.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pr%C3%ADomhleathanach

Oranage2

Dont wikipedia know students have assignments to finish!

Plazaman

:eek: A 24 hour shutdown...... this is it.... 2012.....this is how it starts... the end is nigh.

Oh those pesky Mayans and their foresights and five ears......damn you Mayans...DAMN YOU!!!

Orando Broom

later10 wrote: »

Do you know what this means?

People will have to stick to topics they know or understand!!

:eek:

That's ok for you to say but as Stewart Baker, former first Assistant Secretary for Policy at the Department of Homeland Security and former General Counsel of the National Security Agency, stated that SOPA would do "great damage to Internet security"[65] by undermining Domain Name System Security Extensions (DNSSEC), a proposed security upgrade for DNS, since a browser must treat all redirects the same, and must continue to search until it finds a DNS server (possibly overseas) providing untampered results.[65] On December 14, 2011 he wrote that SOPA was "badly in need of a knockout punch" due to its impact on security and DNS:[65]

from the [Attorney General]’s point of view, the browser’s efforts to find an authoritative DNS server will look like a deliberate effort to evade his blocking order. The latest version of SOPA will feed that view. It allows the AG to sue “any entity that knowingly and willfully provides ... a product ... designed by such entity or by another in concert with such entity for the circumvention or bypassing of” the AG’s blocking orders. It’s hard to escape the conclusion that this provision is aimed squarely at the browser companies. Browsers implementing DNSSEC will have to circumvent and bypass criminal blocking, and in the process, they will also circumvent and bypass SOPA orders.
DNSSEC is a set of protocols developed by the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) for ensuring internet security. A white paper by the Brookings Institution noted, "The DNS system is based on trust," adding that DNSSEC was developed to prevent malicious redirection of DNS traffic, and that "other forms of redirection will break the assurances from this security tool."[75]

On November 17, Sandia National Laboratories, a research agency of the U.S. Department of Energy, released a technical assessment of the DNS filtering provisions in the House and Senate bills, in response to Representative Zoe Lofgren's (D-CA) request. The assessment stated that the proposed DNS filtering would be unlikely to be effective, would negatively impact internet security, and would delay full implementation of DNSSEC.[76][77]

On November 18, House Cybersecurity Subcommittee chair Dan Lungren stated that he had "very serious concerns" about SOPA's impact on DNSSEC, adding, "we don't have enough information, and if this is a serious problem as was suggested by some of the technical experts that got in touch with me, we have to address it."[78]

Brendog

Well its their own loss. I was planning on eating the salmon of knowledge tomorrow.

Guess I'll just have to give years of history to someone else....:(

chin_grin

I'm more worried about Reddit being down for a day! I'll go insane!


(also it's the 18th the sites are going down).

vader65

Tomorrow should be made National Library Day, and have all the wiki users having to venture outdoors and feel paper again?

Dyr

Great, I don't have to see Jimmy fu***in Wales giving me his soulful kevin costner look while begging for readies

sbsquarepants

stoneill wrote: »

http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia_anti-SOPA_blackout

Today, the Wikipedia community announced its decision to black out the English-language Wikipedia for 24 hours, worldwide, beginning at 05:00 UTC on Wednesday, January 18 (you can read the statement from the Wikimedia Foundation here). The blackout is a protest against proposed legislation in the United States—the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) in the U.S. House of Representatives, and the PROTECTIP Act (PIPA) in the U.S. Senate—that, if passed, would seriously damage the free and open Internet, including Wikipedia.

All that factual unbiased and information - gone ( well for 24 hrs anyway)

Is that what those appeals from the founder were about? I wondered what they were about, not enough to read them obviously, but i wondered nonetheless!:D

4zn76tysfajdxp

later10 wrote: »

This website has come on so much from the less dependable form it was in some years back.

[citation needed]

Owl Tickler

Bambi wrote: »

Great, I don't have to see Jimmy fu***in Wales giving me his soulful kevin costner look while begging for readies

That makes no sense. You only see him on the Wikipedia site anyway, so you could just not go there any time you don't want to see him.

44leto

Wiki is truly a public service website it really is a worldwide treasure and something that all us internet users takes for granted. Jimmy Wales the founder gave an open source encyclopedia to the world. To put what he did and is doing in perspective you have to consider what the man has given up from his altruism.

Although with the Internet we have the option of any sites, if you analyses world wide usage we mainly use very few sites. These are Google, Facebook, twitter, ebay and Wiki these are the most visited sites on the WWW each one is worth many billions, but Wiki has resisted commercialisation and kept itself open and resisted all earlier offers of multi billion dollar offers.

Its a worldwide public library, its altruism, its for the good of mankind.

But even I as a pirate of media recognise that I am living in the golden age of piracy and it has to stop. I know its wrong and it is not a victimless crime, but hey, its easy.

Jesus Shaves

Jumpy wrote: »

I'd give her a go too.

http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/apr2011/2/8/pippa-middleton-pic-dm-image-2-901800535.jpg

I was hoping you posted a link to this one

http://www.backtothebay.net/merchandise/fancard_pippa.jpg

Stiffler2

Ye - I've heard they're just doing this for the money.

(eg) scare google, wiki, yahoo, microsoft, apple etc into paying for lobbyists

which goes back into the government in the US so it's just a ploy to get donations from the big online companies.

MrStuffins

Stiffler2 wrote: »

Ye - I've heard they're just doing this for the money.

(eg) scare google, wiki, yahoo, microsoft, apple etc into paying for lobbyists

which goes back into the government in the US so it's just a ploy to get donations from the big online companies.

Who did you hear this from exactly?

WoollyRedHat

Imagine there's no Internet
It's easy if you try
No cursor below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people living for today

Imagine there's no websites
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to click or search for
And no LOLCats too
Imagine all the people living life in peace

You, you may say
I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no facebook
I wonder if you can
No need for statuses or morons
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people sharing all the world
No Flickr or Twitter

You, you may say
I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will live as one

Conall Cernach

Babybuff wrote: »

no worries I downloaded the internet earlier

A bloke I know thought that those AOL discs that came free with every PC magazine in the 90s contained the Internet. He also thought it'd be great if you could build a radio into your PC. Not an online radio player but something like a car stereo! This was after 2 years of a BTEC in computer studies.

briany

Conall Cernach wrote: »

A bloke I know thought that those AOL discs that came free with every PC magazine in the 90s contained the Internet. He also thought it'd be great if you could build a radio into your PC. Not an online radio player but something like a car stereo! This was after 2 years of a BTEC in computer studies.

That actually sounds like a pretty fun idea for an ironic retro touch to an otherwise gleaming example of modernity in a contemporary PC tower. A rusty old car stereo that can fit, just about, into one of the 5.25 bays. Maybe some red electrical tape to hold it in.

Don't know how you'd control it from the motherboard though....

tricky D

later10 wrote: »

This website has come on so much from the less dependable form it was in some years back.

No it hasn't.

Jairo Thousands Board wrote: »

[citation needed]

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/WikiPedia



but both are better than

http://www.conservapedia.com/Wikipedia

Zascar

Watch this to understand about SOPA and PIPA: http://vimeo.com/31100268

later12

tricky D wrote: »

No it hasn't.

Yes it has.

TeddyTedson

First they start looking for donations.
Now they're trying to challenge world leaders...
Wikipedia is starting to sound like it may be part of the axis of evil.

iamstop

kraggy wrote: »

That would involve never going to the cinema or buying an album on itunes.

There are LOADS of other places to legally get music other than itunes. Sheesh. Open your eyes, ears and most importantly open your mind. :rolleyes:

later12

TeddyTedson wrote: »

First they start looking for donations.
Now they're trying to challenge world leaders...
Wikipedia is starting to sound like it may be part of the axis of evil.

Heh. Wait till they start shafting us with water charges.

losthorizon

later10 wrote: »

Do you know what this means?

People will have to stick to topics they know or understand!!

:eek:

Most of Wikipedia is wrong anyway

Run_to_da_hills

"Web sites joining the protest include Boing Boing, WordPress, and the Cheezburger network sites. From 8am to 8pm Eastern, these and other sites will return only a banner with information about Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and Protect IP Act (PIPA), New Bill explained. "The US bills are designed to block access to sites containing unauthorised copryight material.

Content owners and the US government would be given the power to request court orders to shut down sites associated with piracy. Advertisers, payment processors and internet service providers would be forbidden from doing business with infringers based overseas.
Sopa also requires search engines to remove foreign infringing sites from their results, a provision absent in Pipa".

I would be quite concerned about these new bills and what it could lead to, particularly with Extradition agreements between the US and Europe.

We already have two pending cases of extradition from the UK to the United States over hacking,.

Under the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) if one is caught ten times downloading copyright material in the space of 6 months they could be eligible for up to 5 years prison.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16590585

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/jan/17/wikipedia-blackout-looms-sopa?newsfeed=true

strobe

MrStuffins wrote: »

Who did you hear this from exactly?

Read it on wikipedia?

MrStuffins

losthorizon wrote: »

Most of Wikipedia is wrong anyway

100% of this sentence is ill informed rubbish.

GLaDOS

For all the crap it gets, wiki is a fantastic resource. You just be sure to check references
What are the times it'll be down Irish time?

FatherLen

if this goes ahead i daresay, the internet will be ****....



edit: the bills, if the bills go ahead.

Maedbhish

What will we do for a WHOLE 24 hours???

Anon2020

The SOPA bill won't be passed. Now that US politicians have been informed by Google, Facebook and other technology giant's executives, they realise they were being hoodwinked by Rupert Murdoch and co...No doubt the big entertainment industry lawyers will concoct another draft proposal as soon as possible for lobbyists to dangle in front of gullible Washington politicians..only time(no pun intended) will tell.:cool:

Maedbhish

Thankfully I'm finished my exams.. :P

Logical Fallacy

Maedbhish wrote: »

What will we do for a WHOLE 24 hours???

Competitive ****-a-thon.

Everyone cums in a cup...winner is the one with the highest volume...not the most ejaculations.

dr.bollocko

merge.