Cris "Cyborg" Santos fails drug-test, banned for 1 year.

MrStuffins · 07-01-2012 2:47am #1

As the title says

The California State Athletic Commission has suspended and fined Strikeforce women's featherweight champion Cristiane "Cyborg" Santos due to a failed drug test.

CSAC officials today announced the fighter tested positive for stanozolol metabolites following a Dec. 17 title defense at "Strikeforce: Melendez vs. Masvidal."

She's been suspended one year and fined $2,500, according to a release the CSAC emailed to MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com). Her win over Hiroko Yamanaka has been overturned to a no-contest.

MMAjunkie.com is in the process of getting comment from Strikeforce officials and Santos' representatives.

"Our primary concern is for the health and safety of fighters," CSAC Executive Officer George Dodd stated. "Anabolic agents and other banned substances put not only the users of those agents at risk, but their opponents as well. The commission simply will not tolerate their use."

Santos (10-1 MMA, 3-0 SF) picked up her 11th straight win (and fifth straight in Strikeforce) with the 16-second knockout of Yamanaka, which came at Valley View Casino Center in San Diego. The bout, which marked a third straight title defense, served as the night's Showtime-televised co-headliner and was Santos' first bout in Strikeforce in 18 months following a contract dispute. As Santos has torn through competition (with nine knockouts in 11 career wins), she's often been dogged by steroid speculation, though she never previously failed a test.

Santos, who's widely regarded as the sport's top female fighter, earned a disclosed payday of $66,000 for the Dec. 17 fight.

Santos's provision of a urine sample was observed by a CSAC representative on the night of the fight, and the sample was sent to the World Anti-Doping Agency test facility at UCLA. Santos has the right to appeal the suspension of her license.

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Stephen_King · 07-01-2012 4:06am

The CSAC should hang a sign over its door saying 'Abandon all hope ye who roid here'. They've caught over double the amount of fighters the NSAC has over the years-and I'd think the NSAC has sanctioned far more events. Either their testing is incredibly stringent (all for that) or there's something dodgy going on....

http://www.cagepotato.com/mma-steroid-busts-definitive-timeline/

MrStuffins · 07-01-2012 4:15am

Dana White has said she'll be stripped of the belt but not only that, her failed test could've killed Women's MMA under Zuffa! (the 145 division at least)

http://mmajunkie.com/news/26856/strikeforce-noncommittal-on-cris-santos-future-white-says-belt-will-be-stripped.mma

dave1982 · 07-01-2012 9:04am

First thing i thought when i read it that's women's MMA ****ed

00benski · 07-01-2012 11:44am

Think it was only a matter of time before they got her. Glad they did

07-01-2012 12:58pm

Anybody with a brain in their head knew she was on something really.

Women's MMA is ruined. It's sad because they always have great fights.

El Guapo! · 07-01-2012 1:18pm

She always looked as if she was taking something. Glad she got caught.

I don't see how this could ruin womens mma though. Surely one woman being caught isn't the end of women in the sport. Just the same way if a man gets caught that isn't the end of the sport altogether.

Niall0 · 07-01-2012 2:19pm

Dean09 wrote: »

She always looked as if she was taking something. Glad she got caught.

I don't see how this could ruin womens mma though. Surely one woman being caught isn't the end of women in the sport. Just the same way if a man gets caught that isn't the end of the sport altogether.

This could be good for women's mma because it levels the playing field again, I bet Gina Carano makes a comeback now. It seems like everyone was ducking cyborg and you can't blame them really she looked like she coould take a bunch of the men at 145. Maybe now the 145 division will be more competitive again.

Mr. Loverman · 07-01-2012 4:13pm

I've been reading steroid forums for years and it would lead me to believe she was just unlucky she ****ed up her cycling, rather than being one of the few fighters on something...

El Guapo! · 07-01-2012 7:16pm

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

I've been reading steroid forums for years and it would lead me to believe she was just unlucky she ****ed up her cycling, rather than being one of the few fighters on something...

But as a fighter she shouldn't be on cycles of anything in the first place.

By the way.................in before Mr.Stuffins says "SHABBA!" :pac:

Mr. Loverman · 07-01-2012 7:22pm

Dean09 wrote: »

But as a fighter she shouldn't be on cycles of anything in the first place.

Ah yeah of course, but professional sports are full of steroids.

El Guapo! · 07-01-2012 7:36pm

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

Ah yeah of course, but professional sports are full of steroids.

Yeah that's true. And that's why I think there should be random drug testing all year round and not just at the time of a fight.
I'm not sure if that'd work but it'd make it a much fairer playing field for everybody.

07-01-2012 8:30pm

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

Ah yeah of course, but professional sports are full of steroids.

It's true you can't laugh it off.

Killme00 · 08-01-2012 12:12am

00benski wrote: »

Think it was only a matter of time before they got her. Glad they did

Deleted User wrote: »

Anybody with a brain in their head knew she was on something really.

Dean09 wrote: »

She always looked as if she was taking something. Glad she got caught.

Lads, with your extensive knowledge of steroids, perhaps you can tell us who else is using steroids in modern mma?

dave80 · 08-01-2012 12:25am

Killme00 wrote: »

Lads, with your extensive knowledge of steroids, perhaps you can tell us who else is using steroids in modern mma?

It's easier to sus out the girls than the lads

dave80 · 08-01-2012 12:27am

Dean09 wrote: »

Yeah that's true. And that's why I think there should be random drug testing all year round and not just at the time of a fight.
I'm not sure if that'd work but it'd make it a much fairer playing field for everybody.

That's wat they do with Olympic athletes but they are still full of drugs cheats?

Killme00 · 08-01-2012 12:36am

dave80 wrote: »

It's easier to sus out the girls than the lads

ORLY?

dave80 · 08-01-2012 12:38am

Killme00 wrote: »

ORLY?

YES

kainer2 · 08-01-2012 12:55am

Stephen_King wrote: »

The CSAC should hang a sign over its door saying 'Abandon all hope ye who roid here'. They've caught over double the amount of fighters the NSAC has over the years-and I'd think the NSAC has sanctioned far more events. Either their testing is incredibly stringent (all for that) or there's something dodgy going on....

http://www.cagepotato.com/mma-steroid-busts-definitive-timeline/

I'm pretty sure California holds a lot more MMA events than Nevada. I'm pretty sure the same is probably true about boxing too.

But because of the casino influence Nevada would probably hold more "top draw" events

00benski · 08-01-2012 3:16am

Killme00 wrote: »

Lads, with your extensive knowledge of steroids, perhaps you can tell us who else is using steroids in modern mma?

Dont be so Naive Killme00, steriod abuse is rampant all over the states, and most of the world in all professional sports ( MMA included ) so your prob best off losing the attitude, take a bit of your own advice back

Higher · 08-01-2012 4:09pm

Killme00 wrote: »

Lads, with your extensive knowledge of steroids, perhaps you can tell us who else is using steroids in modern mma?

1) JOSH BARNETT (The Beginning) Caught: 4/22/02, following his TKO victory over Randy Couture at UFC 36. Tested positive for: Boldenone, Nandrolone, and Fluoxymesterone

2) TIM SYLVIA Caught: 10/7/03, following his first-round knockout of Gan McGee at UFC 44. Tested positive for: Stanozolol

3) KIMO LEOPOLDO (Pt. 1) Caught: 8/16/04, following his TKO loss to Ken Shamrock at UFC 48. Tested positive for: Stanozolol

4) NATE MARQUARDT Caught: 8/15/05, following his unanimous decision win over Ivan Salaverry at Ultimate Fight Night 1. Tested positive for: Nandrolone

5) KIMO LEOPOLDO (Pt. 2) Caught: 7/20/06, two days before he was scheduled to fight Bas Rutten at WFA: King of the Streets. Tested positive for: Stanozolol

6) VITOR BELFORT Caught: 10/26/06, following his unanimous decision loss to Dan Henderson at PRIDE 32. Tested positive for: 4-Hydroxytestosterone

7) PAWEL NASTULA Caught: 10/26/06, following his submission loss against Josh Barnett at PRIDE 32. Tested positive for: Nandrolone

STEPHAN BONNAR Caught: 11/3/06, following his second unanimous decision loss to Forrest Griffin at UFC 62. Tested positive for: Boldenone
9) KIT COPE Caught: 1/25/07, following his submission via strikes loss to Rob McCullough at WEC 25. Tested positive for: Boldenone

10) JOHNNIE MORTON Caught: 6/13/07, following his 38-second knockout loss against Bernard Ackah at Dynamite!! USA. Tested positive for: Unspecified anabolic steroids. Morton’s pre-fight urine test came back as positive for a very elevated T/E (testosterone) ratio — 83.9, when the average for an athlete is 6.

11) ROYCE GRACIE Caught: 6/14/07, following his unanimous decision win over Kazushi Sakuraba at Dynamite!! USA. Tested positive for: Nandrolone

12) JORGE ORTIZ Caught: 6/26/07, following his TKO loss to Jesse Taylor at Total Combat 21. Tested positive for: Nandrolone

13) PHIL BARONI Caught: 7/7/07, following his technical submission loss to Frank Shamrock at Strikeforce: Shamrock vs. Baroni. Tested positive for: Boldenone and Stanozolol

14) SEAN SHERK Caught: 7/19/07, following his unanimous decision win against Hermes Franca at UFC 73. Tested positive for: Nandrolone

15) HERMES FRANCA Caught: 7/19/07, following his unanimous decision loss to Sean Sherk at UFC 73. Tested positive for: Drostanolone

16) ANTHONY TORRES Caught: 10/3/07, following his TKO loss to Jess Liaudin at UFC 75. Tested positive for: Boldenone. Torres was the first fighter to be caught by a UFC-administered steroid test.

17) BILL MAHOOD Caught: 10/15/07, following his submission via rib injury loss to Bobby Southworth at Strikeforce’s first Playboy Mansion show. Tested positive for: Drostanolone

18) ADAM SMITH Caught: 10/17/07, following his unanimous decision loss to Dewey Cooper at Strikeforce’s first Playboy Mansion show. Tested positive for: Nandrolone and Stanozolol — as well as cocaine and marijuana.

19) JASON WINTHERS Caught: 11/19/07, following his TKO loss against Richard Blake at Rebel Fights: Unleashed Fury. Tested positive for: Stanozolol and the veterinary steroid Trenbolone — as well as methadone and morphine. Sounds like somebody’s been partying with Adam Smith…

20) RUBEN VILLAREAL Caught: 11/28/07, following his TKO loss to Jimmy Ambriz at WCO: Kerr vs. Gavin. Tested positive for: 4-Hydroxytestosterone

21) DENNIS HALLMAN Caught: 11/29/07, following his submission win over Jeremiah Metcalf at Strikeforce: Four Men Enter, One Man Survives.

Tested positive for: Drostanolone and Nandrolone

22) ALEXANDER CRISPIM Caught: 11/29/07, following his unanimous decision win over Clint Coronel at Strikeforce: Four Men Enter, One Man Survives. Tested positive for: Desoxymethyltestosterone

23) CARINA DAMM Caught: 5/15/08, following her submission win over Sophie Bagherdai at Femme Fatale Fighting 4. Tested positive for: Nandrolone

24) ALEXANDRE NOGUEIRA Caught: 7/7/08, following his TKO loss to Jose Aldo at WEC 34. Tested positive for: Boldenone

25) ANTONIO SILVA Caught: 8/21/08, following his TKO win over Justin Eilers at EliteXC: Unfinished Business. Tested positive for: Boldenone

26) EDWIN DEWEES Caught: 8/21/08, following his TKO loss against Antonio Rogerio Nogueira at Affliction: Banned. Tested positive for: A massive amount of Nandrolone.

27) KIRILL SIDELNIKOV Caught: 3/3/09, following his TKO loss to Paul Buentello at Affliction: Day of Reckoning. Tested positive for: Stanozolol

28) KEN SHAMROCK Caught: 3/11/09, following his submission win over super-heavyweight tubbaguts Ross Clifton at WarGods: Valentine’s Eve Massacre. Tested positive for: 19-Norandrosterone, 19-Noretiocholanolone, and Stanozolol

29) JOSH BARNETT (The End) Caught: 7/21/09, 11 days before he was scheduled to fight Fedor Emelianenko in the main event of Affliction: Trilogy. Tested positive for: Drostanolone

30) COLE PROVINCE
Caught: 8/17/09, following his unanimous decision win over Fredson Paixao at WEC 42.
Tested positive for: Methasterone

31) CHAEL SONNEN
Caught: 9/18/10, following his submission loss to Anderson Silva at UFC 117.
Tested positive for: “A natural steroid”
Punishment: $2,500 fine and a one-year suspension from the CSAC.

32) VINICIUS QUIEROZ
Caught: 11/2/10, following his submission loss to Rob Broughton at UFC 120.
Tested positive for: Stanozolol.

33) Cris ‘Cyborg’ Santos (Strikeforce womans champ)
Caught: 1/6/12, was suspended after testing positive for stanozolol metabolites.

Then you had a steroid supplier list that had Shane Carwin's name on it, Brock Lesnar was in the past caught with steroids, Jeff Monson has openly admitted steroid use, Overeem is without doubt on them as well.

Barry.Oglesby · 08-01-2012 4:57pm

Putting a list of convicted cheats up doesn't prove that MMA is "full" of steroid cheats, it just shows that the testing system has caught people 33 times. That's 33 out of how many professional fighters? Put the same up for baseball, football, rugby and American football and the amount of guys using doesn't prove anything either.

I think largely with the whole steroid issue, the problem is that the average keyboard jockey has simply no concept of how much work and training it takes to be an elite level athlete or fighter, and since (I'm going to generalise horribly) they're likely not to have any understanding of what it takes to be extremely fit, it's much easier to be a cynic and call "steroids!" every time.

trev77 · 08-01-2012 6:15pm

After that post I would presume that you have extensive knowledge of training UFC fighters?
As your average keyboard jockey I have none but I'd like to hear about your experience and how you know that steroid use is not common at the ELITE level.

Barry.Oglesby wrote: »

Putting a list of convicted cheats up doesn't prove that MMA is "full" of steroid cheats, it just shows that the testing system has caught people 33 times. That's 33 out of how many professional fighters? Put the same up for baseball, football, rugby and American football and the amount of guys using doesn't prove anything either.

I think largely with the whole steroid issue, the problem is that the average keyboard jockey has simply no concept of how much work and training it takes to be an elite level athlete or fighter, and since (I'm going to generalise horribly) they're likely not to have any understanding of what it takes to be extremely fit, it's much easier to be a cynic and call "steroids!" every time.

Barry.Oglesby · 08-01-2012 7:09pm

trev77 wrote: »

After that post I would presume that you have extensive knowledge of training UFC fighters?
As your average keyboard jockey I have none but I'd like to hear about your experience and how you know that steroid use is not common at the ELITE level.

If you show me where I said it wasn't common I'll send you my CV. But in any case you've completely missed the point which is that in the absence of a conviction, all sportsmen should be considered innocent until proven guilty.

Leo Dowling · 08-01-2012 7:13pm

Jaysus you wouldn't think she'd need anything like that. I've seen three of her fights and she basically just mangled her opponents and threw them around like rag dolls with little effort. I'd find it hard to believe that it was only due to being on PEDs. Sad really but I don't think there are any good fights for her out there anyways, Ronda Rousey might have been interesting but she's moved down in weight.

trev77 · 08-01-2012 7:20pm

Ur right u didn't but your insinuation is that the average mma fan hasn't a clue whereas you know better. Now unless you have been training UFC fighters and maybe you have been then your opinion is only as valid as the next mans isint it?

Barry.Oglesby wrote: »

trev77 wrote: »

After that post I would presume that you have extensive knowledge of training UFC fighters?
As your average keyboard jockey I have none but I'd like to hear about your experience and how you know that steroid use is not common at the ELITE level.

If you show me where I said it wasn't common I'll send you my CV. But in any case you've completely missed the point which is that in the absence of a conviction, all sportsmen should be considered innocent until proven guilty.

Barry.Oglesby · 08-01-2012 7:37pm

trev77 wrote: »

Ur right u didn't but your insinuation is that the average mma fan hasn't a clue whereas you know better. Now unless you have been training UFC fighters and maybe you have been then your opinion is only as valid as the next mans isint it?

Well I suppose from one point of view, given that I don't actually sit in the room or manage UFC guys training, then yes. On the other hand I do train athletes in my day job and I have seen first hand the effects of PEDs on performance, so perhaps I have a better insight into what the human body can do.

But if you're determined to undermine my opinion then fire away.

trev77 · 08-01-2012 7:50pm

I wouldn't doubt your knowledge of the body seeing as that's your job but that isint whsts being debated. What is being debated is the extent of ped usage st the highest level in mma and wernt you first to undermine others when you have just admitted that you are as likely to be as wrong as the "average keyboard jockey".

Barry.Oglesby · 08-01-2012 7:58pm

trev77 wrote: »

I wouldn't doubt your knowledge of the body seeing as that's your job but that isint whsts being debated. What is being debated is the extent of ped usage st the highest level in mma and wernt you first to undermine others when you have just admitted that you are as likely to be as wrong as the "average keyboard jockey".

I think you're a bit confused here, or haven't read my posts well enough.

To summarise, I said that all athletes should be innocent until proven guilty, and that people on keyboards generally lack the frame of reference required to understand the effects of PEDs, and as such should probably err on the side of "I don't know" rather than saying they are rampant in sport.

trev77 · 08-01-2012 8:03pm

If you can show me where you have said any of that in your iriginsl post then you will have a full apology because what you said there does not sound arrogant or cocky and does not put down the average fan that comes on here for a bit of debate without being put down.
Also below is not a summary. It's a complete re write

To summarise, I said that all athletes should be innocent until proven guilty, and that people on keyboards generally lack the frame of reference required to understand the effects of PEDs, and as such should probably err on the side of "I don't know" rather than saying they are rampant in sport.[/Quote]

Barry.Oglesby · 08-01-2012 8:11pm

Barry.Oglesby wrote: »

Putting a list of convicted cheats up doesn't prove that MMA is "full" of steroid cheats, it just shows that the testing system has caught people 33 times. That's 33 out of how many professional fighters? Put the same up for baseball, football, rugby and American football and the amount of guys using doesn't prove anything either.

I think largely with the whole steroid issue, the problem is that the average keyboard jockey has simply no concept of how much work and training it takes to be an elite level athlete or fighter, and since (I'm going to generalise horribly) they're likely not to have any understanding of what it takes to be extremely fit, it's much easier to be a cynic and call "steroids!" every time.

There's my original post. I haven't been saying this again and again as I was trying to reword it for you. Now if you think that sounds arrogant or cocky, or that I was trying to put anyone down, then I think you need to develop some thicker skin.

Cris "Cyborg" Santos fails drug-test, banned for 1 year.

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