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  • #32
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    stovelid wrote: »
    Work isn't a moral state of mind. It's labour for money.

    As if any of the pontificators here with professional careers would lump fridges around for less than minimum wage.

    A lot of people with professional careers have done internships. It's very common practice.


  • #33
    Rocky_Dennis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 433 ✭✭Rocky_Dennis


    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    Some people would rather go out and do that then sit at home. To be honest, I'd consider anything if I didn't have work and was doing nothing.
    +1 to this. I would consider it myself. Unfortunately, I think resentment would build up inside me to be working for 50 euro a week and if a supervisor or manager pulled me on something, I would probably tell them to f**k off.


  • #34
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    stovelid wrote: »
    Funny how AH goes into convulsions about our tax sponds going on social welfare but when It transpires that your taxes are basically paying the wages on behalf of a presumably profitable company (and undercutting other people looking for paid work),there is hardly a whisper yet.

    Would you walk down to Dunnes and hand them a few hundred quid to pay their workers' wages?


    Look more local. I know people who are going crazy on the dole, doing fas courses. They need to work, not want it, need it. Some have availed of this scheme, all be it not this one.

    Working empowers people, I can only hope it would reinforce a persons drive to actively seek a more appropriate position for themselves.


  • #35
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    You guys who are defending this are missing the point.

    Allowing companies to hire people in this manner effectively costs productive jobs. Why would they hire someone for pay when they could hire someone on SW through one of these schemes?

    It's allowing companies to make an extra profit while taking advantage of the system NOT to help the economy grow by actually employing people. That's why it's so stupid.


  • #36
    twinQuins
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭twinQuins


    starbelgrade wrote: »
    A lot of people with professional careers have done internships. It's very common practice.

    And I'm sure they were internships in areas relevant to their careers. This is just taking the piss and you know it.


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  • #37
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,370 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    Except it's not for nothing. It's for money. And I for one would rather work for money than have it handed to me for nothing. And before anyone starts, I'm currently unemployed.

    So would I. But not when the "employer" cost for the labour is nothing.


  • #38
    ThePower11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭ThePower11


    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    Look more local. I know people who are going crazy on the dole, doing fas courses. They need to work, not want it, need it. Some have availed of this scheme, all be it not this one.

    Working empowers people, I can only hope it would reinforce a persons drive to actively seek a more appropriate position for themselves.
    Could you in all honesty motivate yourself enough to get out of bed in the morning to go work in Dixons for €10 a day?

    I know I couldn't.


  • #39
    Crazy Horse 6
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭Crazy Horse 6


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    Because I'm not in Ireland right now. I was also unemployed before I left, and signed up for a program like this with fas, but they didn't get me a job through it.

    Okay fair enough but would you have taken the "job" if it was offered when you where still here?


  • #40
    FTGFOP
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,389 ✭✭✭FTGFOP


    This amounts to taxpayer money subsidising a private company. Daft, really.


  • #41
    kowloon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,186 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    starbelgrade wrote: »
    Because education costs money & even if you can afford it, it's not for everyone.

    Fair enough, it's not everyone's cup of tea, but it would be my preference.

    Formal education costs money, but the library is cheap. Free labour for a private company just seems to me to be a waste of time you can't get back.


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  • #42
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    ThePower11 wrote: »
    Could you in all honesty motivate yourself enough to get out of bed in the morning to go work in Dixons for €10 a day?

    I know I couldn't.

    Seriously,

    It depends how long off work I was. If it was a while, I would do it. Only because if i was sitting at home I would go crazy. the routine would be good for me. I would be more motivatred to get a better position anywhere else. I would be out of the void of long term unemployment where going to bed at 3am and never getting up before lunch time was the norm.


  • #43
    Crazy Horse 6
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭Crazy Horse 6


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    Yes.
    Ok thank you.


  • #44
    mconigol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭mconigol


    I applied to voice my displeasure. I'd encourage others to do the same.


  • #45
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    starbelgrade wrote: »
    A lot of people with professional careers have done internships. It's very common practice.

    Internships in humping fridges around for your dole?


  • #46
    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    OP, one of the managers of this group posts on boards

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1333

    They have a Talk To forum
    He's often on boards dealing with complaints and answering tough questions. And there were a few threads last year about hiring and managing staff

    Just saying if you want to post it there and see if you get a response


  • #47
    Maudi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭Maudi


    mkdon05 wrote: »
    I'll boycott any company taking advantage of people like this. Manual labour does not require experience and therefore these jobs are of no benefit to anyone bar the company receiving free labour.
    what dixons are offering/taking advantage of is exactly the same as...famine relief work or the modern day work house.


  • #48
    El Guapo!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,450 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    Seriously,

    It depends how long off work I was. If it was a while, I would do it. Only because if i was sitting at home I would go crazy. the routine would be good for me. I would be more motivatred to get a better position anywhere else. I would be out of the void of long term unemployment where going to bed at 3am and never getting up before lunch time was the norm.

    Would you not rather charity work though to occupy your time?
    It'd be something worthwhile and it looks very good on a cv.


  • #49
    Crazy Horse 6
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭Crazy Horse 6


    Just remember that by Dixons offering these slave positions someone who would actually like the position at a proper full-time wage is turned away and another one joins the dole queue.


  • #50
    Maudi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭Maudi


    mkdon05 wrote: »
    I'll boycott any company taking advantage of people like this. Manual labour does not require experience and therefore these jobs are of no benefit to anyone bar the company receiving free labour.
    what dixons are offering/taking advantage of is exactly the same as...famine relief work or the modern day work house.


  • #51
    mconigol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭mconigol


    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    Seriously,

    It depends how long off work I was. If it was a while, I would do it. Only because if i was sitting at home I would go crazy. the routine would be good for me. I would be more motivatred to get a better position anywhere else. I would be out of the void of long term unemployment where going to bed at 3am and never getting up before lunch time was the norm.

    Why not go and do some social work to benefit the community rather than to help some company and its balance sheet? Pick litter, clean up a river bank etc...there's plenty of work around the country that needs to be done if people want to work for free.


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  • #52
    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    starbelgrade wrote: »
    A lot of people with professional careers have done internships. It's very common practice.

    Designing a work flow in a warehouse in an internship.
    So is linking sales and stock databases.
    Or even working in accounts or looking at stock control


    This group are offering internships in stocking shelves and lugging around washing machines


  • #53
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    FTGFOP wrote: »
    This amounts to taxpayer money subsidising a private company. Daft, really.

    Amazing that people are failing to grasp this.

    Plus they are keeping other people out of normally paid jobs.

    Fair enough if it was a work placement relevant to a trade or profession, but this? Come on, folks.


  • #54
    tucked
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭tucked


    This is a new Govt initiative called JobBridge and is an Internship Scheme. I have to admit when I heard of it I thought it was quite a good idea but didn't imagine large organisations like Dixons would be taking advantage of it for what seems to be fairly menial work.

    The main benefits I can see for unemployed people using it is that firstly it fills a void on their CV and shows that they have made the effort to work and gain experience despite little extra reward and secondly it may result in a more permanent better paid position. I think it is a good idea if it is aimed at small local businesses who might genuinely need extra help/staff but are not in a financial position to employ them.


  • #55
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Dean09 wrote: »
    Would you not rather charity work though to occupy your time?
    It'd be something worthwhile and it looks very good on a cv.


    I do that now and I work full time.
    In my experience with volunteering, it can be quite hard to get places, as mad as that sounds. I volunteered professional to one local organisation and it will take 2-6 months before my application is processed. I'm still waiting 4 months on. the others were around the 3 month mark. I never went for a full time volunteer job but I suspect they would be hard to get.


  • #56
    El Guapo!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,450 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    I do that now and I work full time.
    In my experience with volunteering, it can be quite hard to get places, as mad as that sounds. I volunteered professional to one local organisation and it will take 2-6 months before my application is processed. I'm still waiting 4 months on. the others were around the 3 month mark. I never went for a full time volunteer job but I suspect they would be hard to get.
    Really?? :confused:
    That's shocking. You'd think they'd be crying out for volunteers.


  • #57
    mkdon05
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 766 ✭✭✭mkdon05


    Maudi wrote: »
    ...famine relief work or the modern day work house.

    I'm sorry, I have no idea what them 2 things are


  • #58
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    mconigol wrote: »
    Why not go and do some social work to benefit the community rather than to help some company and its balance sheet? Pick litter, clean up a river bank etc...there's plenty of work around the country that needs to be done if people want to work for free.


    I'd most certainly consider that too.

    the way I see it is,we live in a free society. any company or person can advertise a job, it's up to people to want to do it or not.


  • #59
    couldntthink
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭couldntthink


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    How is this slave labour exactly?

    Oh no, people won't be able to 'further their career'. The poor things. Will they be furthering their career by sitting on their arse on the dole? There's nothing wrong with working to put food on the table. Not every job has to be about making it to the top.

    This is nothing but entitled bull****.

    Next.

    If they can get people to do it for free why would they ever hire people properly? People working for free will not help unemployment in any way. Rather go do some charity work and help people who need it, not fu*king dixons.


  • #60
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Dean09 wrote: »
    Really?? :confused:
    That's shocking. You'd think they'd be crying out for volunteers.


    It's Gardai and prison checks. They take forever and a day.


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  • #61
    wes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Ridiculous scheme altogether. The government should not be subsidizing private companies like this, and these so called internships like the Dixon's one are worthless. What has happened is that instead of a someone actually getting paid to work, the tax payer is footing the bill to subsidize a private company. Utterly shambolic as per usual from our government, and a complete waste of tax money, that would be better spent in a bunch of other places.


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