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Slave labour jobs available

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭ThePower11


    Bastards!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Dixons are now seeking Full-Time General Operatives and Driver Assistants to work shift work for zero pay

    Yes the taxpayer will pay and think of the valuable experience you'll get lumping fridges and TV's into the back of a van.


    Surely someone on boards will avail of this wonderful job opening to further their career. :rolleyes:



    Jobs in Dublin West, Work Placement in Customer Service Distribution Centre Dixons Retail PLC - IrishJobs.ie
    If it's for "zero pay" what exactly will the taxpayer be paying for?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    I'm a Shifter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭patwicklow


    Well come to new age slave labour


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭ThePower11


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    If it's for "zero pay" what exactly will the taxpayer be paying for?
    Their dole and the €50 extra per week.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    If government schemes are blatantly open to companies taking advantage of them, then you can hardly blame the companies for doing so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    We've turned the corner, Is feidir linn!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,582 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    If it's for "zero pay" what exactly will the taxpayer be paying for?

    Presumably the worker will claim social welfare. Perhaps Dixons should be putting at least something towards it instead of reaping the benefits of free labour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    ThePower11 wrote: »
    Their dole and the €50 extra per week.
    Fifty sheets?! Where do I sign?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    If they're on fas courses, they are getting dole.

    Dixons are c+nts.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,582 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    ThePower11 wrote: »
    Their dole and the €50 extra per week.

    Are Dixons paying in the €50 extra?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 766 ✭✭✭mkdon05


    I'll boycott any company taking advantage of people like this. Manual labour does not require experience and therefore these jobs are of no benefit to anyone bar the company receiving free labour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Some people would rather go out and do that then sit at home. To be honest, I'd consider anything if I didn't have work and was doing nothing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭ThePower11


    kowloon wrote: »
    Are Dixons paying in the €50 extra?
    I don't think so, I think it's from the SW to cover travel and meal expenses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,582 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    I understand people would prefer to do something over being idle but why not spend the time in education rather than doing work for no benefit?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    kowloon wrote: »
    I understand people would prefer to do something over being idle but why not spend the time in education rather than doing work for no benefit?

    Because education costs money & even if you can afford it, it's not for everyone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭ThePower11


    kowloon wrote: »
    I understand people would prefer to do something over being idle but why not spend the time in education rather than doing work for no benefit?
    Exactly, why the fuck would anyone want to work in Currys and the like for no money in the hope of getting similar employment for minimum wage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    kowloon wrote: »
    I understand people would prefer to do something over being idle but why not spend the time in education rather than doing work for no benefit?


    Because some people would rather work while others would rather study.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Funny how AH goes into convulsions about our tax sponds going on social welfare but when It transpires that your taxes are basically paying the wages on behalf of a presumably profitable company (and undercutting other people looking for paid work),there is hardly a whisper yet.

    Would you walk down to Dunnes and hand them a few hundred quid to pay their workers' wages?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    How is this slave labour exactly?

    Oh no, people won't be able to 'further their career'. The poor things.. Will they be furthering their career by sitting on their arse on the dole?

    Watching forensic detectives at home would be more useful than lifting a fridge into a truck for nothing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    stovelid wrote: »
    Funny how AH goes into convulsions about our tax sponds going on social welfare but when It transpires that your taxes are basically paying the wages on behalf of a presumably profitable company (and undercutting other people looking for paid work),there is hardly a whisper yet.

    There's a whole thread on the Internship Scheme already. It's massive and it's full of people giving out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭twinQuins


    How is this slave labour exactly?

    Oh no, people won't be able to 'further their career'. The poor things. Will they be furthering their career by sitting on their arse on the dole? There's nothing wrong with working to put food on the table. Not every job has to be about making it to the top.

    This is nothing but entitled bull****.

    Next.

    Except the taxpayer is basically funding the manual labour for private companies. You don't see the problem with that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭ThePower11


    Because it's a fúcking job.
    Well go to college and study in a field that suits you and that has jobs available rather than work for nothing for cunts like Curry's.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Work isn't a moral state of mind. It's labour for money.

    As if any of the pontificators here with professional careers would lump fridges around for less than minimum wage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,261 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Because it's a fúcking job.

    A job which the state pays you for.

    Dixons basically get free work from this, don't have to spend a penny, meanwhile the State and the tax-payer will be paying the extra money a person is due to get from the "work".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    Thread title = Daily Mail Headline


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    Because it's a fúcking job.

    Why would you want to work for free in a job such as a general operative??
    This is Dixons blatantly taking advantage.
    If I was out of work and on the dole and was desperate to get out of the house and do something it definately wouldnt be to work for free in Dixons.
    If someone was that desperate to do something then why not something worthwhile like volunteer charity work or something?


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    In fairness there are plenty of folk on the dole who have no experience of working at all, if this is aimed at such folk and Dixon's intend using it with a view to offering the decent the decent performers an actual job in the future it may not be a bad use of taxpayers money.

    If I was an 18 or 19 with no aspirations to go onto 3rd level, do a trade etc and had no work experience whatsoever I'd be happy to throw my hat in the ring and take my chances :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭Crazy Horse 6


    Except it's not for nothing. It's for money. And I for one would rather work for money than have it handed to me for nothing. And before anyone starts, I'm currently unemployed.

    Why don't you apply then?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Let's also not forget that some guy very well might now come in on a 40 hour week, at no cost to Dixons, and suddenly another worker, usually in receipt of same hours at paid rate, finds himself cut down in hours and subsequently less pay.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    stovelid wrote: »
    Work isn't a moral state of mind. It's labour for money.

    As if any of the pontificators here with professional careers would lump fridges around for less than minimum wage.

    A lot of people with professional careers have done internships. It's very common practice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 433 ✭✭Rocky_Dennis


    Some people would rather go out and do that then sit at home. To be honest, I'd consider anything if I didn't have work and was doing nothing.
    +1 to this. I would consider it myself. Unfortunately, I think resentment would build up inside me to be working for 50 euro a week and if a supervisor or manager pulled me on something, I would probably tell them to f**k off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    stovelid wrote: »
    Funny how AH goes into convulsions about our tax sponds going on social welfare but when It transpires that your taxes are basically paying the wages on behalf of a presumably profitable company (and undercutting other people looking for paid work),there is hardly a whisper yet.

    Would you walk down to Dunnes and hand them a few hundred quid to pay their workers' wages?


    Look more local. I know people who are going crazy on the dole, doing fas courses. They need to work, not want it, need it. Some have availed of this scheme, all be it not this one.

    Working empowers people, I can only hope it would reinforce a persons drive to actively seek a more appropriate position for themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    You guys who are defending this are missing the point.

    Allowing companies to hire people in this manner effectively costs productive jobs. Why would they hire someone for pay when they could hire someone on SW through one of these schemes?

    It's allowing companies to make an extra profit while taking advantage of the system NOT to help the economy grow by actually employing people. That's why it's so stupid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭twinQuins


    A lot of people with professional careers have done internships. It's very common practice.

    And I'm sure they were internships in areas relevant to their careers. This is just taking the piss and you know it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Except it's not for nothing. It's for money. And I for one would rather work for money than have it handed to me for nothing. And before anyone starts, I'm currently unemployed.

    So would I. But not when the "employer" cost for the labour is nothing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭ThePower11


    Look more local. I know people who are going crazy on the dole, doing fas courses. They need to work, not want it, need it. Some have availed of this scheme, all be it not this one.

    Working empowers people, I can only hope it would reinforce a persons drive to actively seek a more appropriate position for themselves.
    Could you in all honesty motivate yourself enough to get out of bed in the morning to go work in Dixons for €10 a day?

    I know I couldn't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭Crazy Horse 6


    Because I'm not in Ireland right now. I was also unemployed before I left, and signed up for a program like this with fas, but they didn't get me a job through it.

    Okay fair enough but would you have taken the "job" if it was offered when you where still here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,389 ✭✭✭FTGFOP


    This amounts to taxpayer money subsidising a private company. Daft, really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,582 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Because education costs money & even if you can afford it, it's not for everyone.

    Fair enough, it's not everyone's cup of tea, but it would be my preference.

    Formal education costs money, but the library is cheap. Free labour for a private company just seems to me to be a waste of time you can't get back.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    ThePower11 wrote: »
    Could you in all honesty motivate yourself enough to get out of bed in the morning to go work in Dixons for €10 a day?

    I know I couldn't.

    Seriously,

    It depends how long off work I was. If it was a while, I would do it. Only because if i was sitting at home I would go crazy. the routine would be good for me. I would be more motivatred to get a better position anywhere else. I would be out of the void of long term unemployment where going to bed at 3am and never getting up before lunch time was the norm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭Crazy Horse 6


    Yes.
    Ok thank you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭mconigol


    I applied to voice my displeasure. I'd encourage others to do the same.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    A lot of people with professional careers have done internships. It's very common practice.

    Internships in humping fridges around for your dole?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    OP, one of the managers of this group posts on boards

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1333

    They have a Talk To forum
    He's often on boards dealing with complaints and answering tough questions. And there were a few threads last year about hiring and managing staff

    Just saying if you want to post it there and see if you get a response


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭Maudi


    mkdon05 wrote: »
    I'll boycott any company taking advantage of people like this. Manual labour does not require experience and therefore these jobs are of no benefit to anyone bar the company receiving free labour.
    what dixons are offering/taking advantage of is exactly the same as...famine relief work or the modern day work house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    Seriously,

    It depends how long off work I was. If it was a while, I would do it. Only because if i was sitting at home I would go crazy. the routine would be good for me. I would be more motivatred to get a better position anywhere else. I would be out of the void of long term unemployment where going to bed at 3am and never getting up before lunch time was the norm.

    Would you not rather charity work though to occupy your time?
    It'd be something worthwhile and it looks very good on a cv.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭Crazy Horse 6


    Just remember that by Dixons offering these slave positions someone who would actually like the position at a proper full-time wage is turned away and another one joins the dole queue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭Maudi


    mkdon05 wrote: »
    I'll boycott any company taking advantage of people like this. Manual labour does not require experience and therefore these jobs are of no benefit to anyone bar the company receiving free labour.
    what dixons are offering/taking advantage of is exactly the same as...famine relief work or the modern day work house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭mconigol


    Seriously,

    It depends how long off work I was. If it was a while, I would do it. Only because if i was sitting at home I would go crazy. the routine would be good for me. I would be more motivatred to get a better position anywhere else. I would be out of the void of long term unemployment where going to bed at 3am and never getting up before lunch time was the norm.

    Why not go and do some social work to benefit the community rather than to help some company and its balance sheet? Pick litter, clean up a river bank etc...there's plenty of work around the country that needs to be done if people want to work for free.


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