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If this was my daughter, I'd be proud of her!

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  • #32
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    **** them anyway. they weren't dropping in for a chat.

    True.

    The local men are going to lining up to ride her after this.

    Still not 19 and already one life notch on the bedpost.

    Yee-Hah!


  • #33
    slavetothegrind
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,790 ✭✭✭slavetothegrind


    i think it's more a reaction to how different things are in a country where the rights of the innocent outweigh those of the guilty.

    Honestly put your loved one in the situation of that girl and consider if you would be discussing the nature of her response and asking her if she could have considered chancing a warning shot and maybe scaring them off

    There is no joy to be got from the loss of life, but there is relief to see the law protecting the innocent.


  • #34
    44leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    Fear Uladh wrote: »
    Every right to defend herself like she did.

    If she did indeed scare them off, what was to stop them coming back?

    And better armed.

    Its a case of persistence not paying off, the burglar spent 20 minutes breaking in.

    I have to say if I caught someone in my house, it would lead to a messy end, one of us is going to get severely hurt.


  • #35
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Wibbs wrote: »
    OK fair play, I'd do similar myself if I had to. Dunno about proud mind you. Blasting someonee stopped by a couch is hardly mission impossible. but anyone else note that her husband who died was in his 50's and she's 18 and they were married for two years. So she was 16ish year old girl with guy at least in his late 40's when they met? WTF? I hear banjos.

    Edit others beat me to it.

    You have a point about the later aspects - but to be clear - I'd be proud of her staying calm, thinking of feeding the child a bottle with one hand to keep it quiet and not give away her position, hold two guns with the other hand and still holding them all, managed to stop an incoming danger - while still on the phone!

    The above to do takes a person of exceptional composure!
    Thats why I say I'd be proud of her.


  • #36
    ScumLord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Biggins wrote: »
    You have a point about the later aspects - but to be clear - I'd be proud of her staying calm, thinking of feeding the child a bottle with one hand to keep it quiet and not give away her position, hold two guns with the other hand and still holding them all, managed to stop an incoming danger - while still on the phone!

    The above to do takes a person of exceptional composure!
    Thats why I say I'd be proud of her.
    That's mammy's for ya, clean the clothes, feed the baby, shot intruder, hoover the sitting room then off to the shops to get dinner.


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  • #37
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    ScumLord wrote: »
    That's mammy's for ya, clean the clothes, feed the baby, shot intruder, hoover the sitting room then off to the shops to get dinner.

    It makes for a hell of a Christmas!
    What did we do for Christmas! :D


  • #38
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Biggins wrote: »
    Police found Martin, 24, slumped over a floral-print sofa with a single gunshot wound. He was pronounced dead at the scene.

    Jesus.. a floral print sofa.





    :pac:


  • #39
    woodoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    Chuck Stone wrote: »
    Why not shoot him in the legs?

    Why let thrash like that live if its lawful to shoot him. Why give him the benefit of the doubt.

    Besides shooting him in the leg may not have been enough to restrain him if he had a weapon.


  • #40
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Chuck Stone wrote: »
    Jesus.. a floral print sofa.





    :pac:
    It does seem like one of those details you'd see in a Guy Ritchie or Tarantino film.


  • #41
    Sir Gallagher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,836 ✭✭✭Sir Gallagher


    Chuck Stone wrote: »
    Biggins wrote: »
    Police found Martin, 24, slumped over a [SIZE="3"]floral-print [/SIZE]sofa with a single gunshot wound. He was pronounced dead at the scene.

    Jesus.. a floral print sofa.





    :pac:

    Now THAT'S a crime.


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  • #42
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    OKAY I GET IT

    Can I have a gun now too please?


  • #43
    hooradiation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    woodoo wrote: »
    Why let thrash like that live if its lawful to shoot him. Why give him the benefit of the doubt.

    Besides shooting him in the leg may not have been enough to restrain him if he had a weapon.

    Unless his knife had the ability to fly and attack on it's own I think she'd have been just fine. Basically, the only scenario in which what took place was the only possible recourse involves magic weapons is what I'm saying here.


    But whatever, shitty states have shitty laws. In other news water wet, sky blue.


  • #44
    44leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    Chuck Stone wrote: »
    OKAY I GET IT

    Can I have a gun now too please?

    No you ffing can't.

    No-one in Ireland should possess a legal firearm.


  • #45
    Minstrel27
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    Chuck Stone wrote: »
    Why not shoot him in the legs?

    Why not break into her home.

    This guy is a piece of **** that planned this attack. He thought he had an easy victim. Lord knows how many other people he has done this to and he deserves what he got.


  • #46
    recylingbin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    Widowed teen mom gets permission from 911 operator to kill intruder.
    what answer did she expect to receive from a terrorist? It's like asking a politician if it's alright to donate some money to their campaign


  • #47
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    hooradiation wrote: »
    Unless his knife had the ability to fly and attack on it's own I think she'd have been just fine. Basically, the only scenario in which what took place was the only possible recourse involves magic weapons is what I'm saying here.
    Are you forgetting about his accomplice? And were you there, so do you know he would have *had* to throw a 12" hunting blade at her?

    Still does not negate the other good reasons she couldn't just shoot him in the legs. A sofa being one of them. But no don't let me stop your video game fantasy. You earn +3 light side points.

    edit: also, it looks like it was a double barrel shotgun. That's one shell per each of two intruders. Make the **** count. Not exactly the 10-clip Saiga 12 we have downstairs.


  • #48
    giles lynchwood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 935 ✭✭✭giles lynchwood


    jonnyfingers wrote: »
    18 and already married with a baby???? No daughter of mine!

    18 and unmarried with a baby that´s the Irish way


  • #49
    rotinaj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭rotinaj


    The saddest thing about this story is one of the cnuts got away. They knew that they were targeting a 18 y.o. widow home on her own with a baby. Scum


  • #50
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    recylingbin wrote: »
    what answer did she expect to receive from a terrorist?
    whiskey tango foxtrot? :confused:


  • #51
    28064212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,155 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    Overheal wrote: »
    whiskey tango foxtrot? :confused:
    911 = 9/11

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  • #52
    ScumLord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Chuck Stone wrote: »
    OKAY I GET IT

    Can I have a gun now too please?
    Only if you promise to shot to kill, none of these fancy Hollywood shots.
    hooradiation wrote: »
    Unless his knife had the ability to fly and attack on it's own I think she'd have been just fine. Basically, the only scenario in which what took place was the only possible recourse involves magic weapons is what I'm saying here.
    I think any home invader in the states would work under the assumption the home their breaking into has a gun in it. Especially the homes of 50 year old kiddie fiddlers I'd say.

    They're intentions when getting in where obviously going to be something bad or worse, they probably thought she wouldn't have the guts to shot someone. With they're prolonged attempt to get into the house their bad intentions where clear and in America the rules are simple, you break into some ones house you get shot, they took the risk and lost.


  • #53
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    44leto wrote: »
    No you ffing can't.

    No-one in Ireland should possess a legal firearm.

    Do you really think so?


  • #54
    Stiffler2
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Stiffler2


    "His accomplice, Stewart, told police he fled after he heard the gunshot and later was later driven to the police station by his parents, Newson6.com reports.
    He’s being held in Grady County jail on felony murder charges and will be arraigned later today, NewsOK.com reports"

    Am I missing something in the article?
    Why is he being charged for murder and not burglary ?


  • #55
    44leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    Chuck Stone wrote: »
    Do you really think so?

    Yeah

    Except for me, I should be allowed one because I think guns would be fun.


  • #56
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Stiffler2 wrote: »
    "His accomplice, Stewart, told police he fled after he heard the gunshot and later was later driven to the police station by his parents, Newson6.com reports.
    He’s being held in Grady County jail on felony murder charges and will be arraigned later today, NewsOK.com reports"

    Am I missing something in the article?
    Why is he being charged for murder and not burglary ?

    Maybe he's wanted for other more terrible previous crimes?
    ...And if so, might indicate the two guys CERTAINLY were not just going to treat the young girl and baby too nicely?


  • #57
    Spread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    stovelid wrote: »
    True.

    The local men are going to lining up to ride her after this.

    Still not 19 and already one life notch on the bedpost.

    Yee-Hah!

    Calm down now and take your meds :)


  • #58
    Horsefumbler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,823 ✭✭✭Horsefumbler


    husband was in his 50s... married at 16 ... :eek:


  • #59
    hooradiation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    Overheal wrote: »
    Are you forgetting about his accomplice? And were you there, so do you know he would have *had* to throw a 12" hunting blade at her?

    Well, unless you were there, as per the shitty caveats you've tenderly laid down, I find your faked incredulence to be just fucking marvellous to behold.

    Overheal wrote: »
    Still does not negate the other good reasons she couldn't just shoot him in the legs. A sofa being one of them. But no don't let me stop your video game fantasy. You earn +3 light side points.

    video game fantasy, nice one. You really worked hard repeating that same shitty accusation over and over. Top marks, have a fucking medal.
    Got any more glib shit you'd like to say? I just need to know because my schedule for scorning your drivel is kinda tight and if I could skip another coruscating example of this particular brand of wretched nonsense that'd be amazing.


  • #60
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Only if you promise to shot to kill, none of these fancy Hollywood shots.

    As long as I could hold the gun sideways and kill people in a cool way I spose I'd be okay with that.


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  • #61
    Stiffler2
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Stiffler2


    Biggins wrote: »
    Maybe he's wanted for other more terrible previous crimes?
    ...And if so, might indicate the two guys CERTAINLY were not just going to treat the young girl and baby too nicely?


    perhaps ?? I just find it a bit strange that he didn't murder anybody, legged it once he heard the gunshot & is being charged for Murder instead of burglary.

    Why would they have even mentioned that in the article without including that he was up for other crimes.

    American Justice = odd
    Lesson here = don't f**k around in America or they'll throw the book at you and charge you for crimes that didn't fit the crime itself.


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