Reasons not the emigrate?

Augmerson · 03-01-2012 11:49PM

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Water.

Our beaches, lakes and rivers. Ireland is by far the nicest country I have ever had the pleasure of living in.

I used to feel the same way, but having visited countries like Canada and Sweden, I'd have to say we could do a whole lot better to preserve and maintain our environment. Illegal dumping on back country roads or in woods makes me want to shoot people in the face repeatedly.

Grimreaper666 · 03-01-2012 11:50PM

Just go OP, this placed is so fcuked you wouldn't believe, when you see economists from the ERSI packing their bags to emigrate and our finance minister putting his money into Norwegian Krone, businesses folding all over the place, how many more bad omens do you want to see? The country's heading for a depression, not just another recession and with all the extra charges and taxes it's unlikely we'll ever recover i'm sorry to say.

TheZohanS · 03-01-2012 11:54PM

Grimreaper666 wrote: »

Just go OP, this placed is so fcuked you wouldn't believe, when you see economists from the ERSI packing their bags to emigrate and our finance minister putting his money into Norwegian Krone, businesses folding all over the place, how many more bad omens do you want to see? The country's heading for a depression, not just another recession and with all the extra charges and taxes it's unlikely we'll ever recover i'm sorry to say.

Jebus...when the Grim Reaper is telling you to emigrate you know things are bad...

Ave Sodalis · 03-01-2012 11:54PM

Grimreaper666 wrote: »

Just go OP, this placed is so fcuked you wouldn't believe, when you see economists from the ERSI packing their bags to emigrate and our finance minister putting his money into Norwegian Krone, businesses folding all over the place, how many more bad omens do you want to see? The country's heading for in a depression, not just another recession and with all the extra charges and taxes it's unlikely we'll ever recover i'm sorry to say.

FYP

OP, you will not get a decent cup of tae anywhere else in the world. Fact.

Immaculate Pasta · 03-01-2012 11:57PM

Grimreaper666 wrote: »

Just go OP, this placed is so fcuked you wouldn't believe, when you see economists from the ERSI packing their bags to emigrate and our finance minister putting his money into Norwegian Krone, businesses folding all over the place, how many more bad omens do you want to see? The country's heading for a depression, not just another recession and with all the extra charges and taxes it's unlikely we'll ever recover i'm sorry to say.

I hate After Hours posters like this who just sit on the fence about issues :mad:

NTMK · 03-01-2012 11:59PM

The Scientician wrote: »

I'm compiling a list of reasons to stay put, both funny and serious.

Here's what I've got so far:

All my family is here (this could also be a reason to emigrate depending on your family.)
Most of my friends are here (although with each passing year more seem to move away.)

What makes you stay even if all signs point to the airport and getting the frig out of here?

Same as you op
I graduate in 6 months and i'm debating whether or not im going to emigrate when i graduate

Like you my family is here (but that will prob change for me) and my friends are here (although only my few college friends remain and most are planning to emigrate)

My advice would be that if all signs point to emigrate then go youll be happier if you do

Yahew · 03-01-2012 11:59PM

Did an ESRI economist leave and say Ireland is fcuked. I'll be popping back to buy some property so.

philologos · 04-01-2012 12:03AM

The Scientician wrote: »

What makes you stay even if all signs point to the airport and getting the frig out of here?

I left a few months ago. I finished at university this summer, I was thinking of studying further but then another opportunity arose and I took it. It's not a hard and fast rule of whether one should stay or go, it's about what works for a particular person. It seemed that I was being drawn out to look elsewhere for a while or maybe even longer. It's not that I hated Ireland or anything, it just seemed that it was a part of the bigger plan in life to leave for a while. Some people might be called to stay so it wouldn't be fair for me to say that everyone should leave, or indeed that everyone should stay.

Everyone has different reasons and a different story for leaving.

ician · 04-01-2012 12:03AM

the cheese

TheUsual · 04-01-2012 12:04AM

Yahew wrote: »

Did an ESRI economist leave and say Ireland is fcuked. I'll be popping back to buy some property so.

One big bearded long-haired Dutchman went for a teaching job in Sussex(?) University.
He complained that the ESRI would not let economists talk to the media directly and that was why he was off.

To be honest he looked more like one of those 6 months in the Amazon survival scientists.
I am thinking that the ERSI brought in this rule just to stop him from talking to RTE.

Spare job going in the ESRI though ?

Eve_Dublin · 04-01-2012 12:04AM

I don't live in Ireland but one thing that'd bring me home if I could go home...the spontaneous chatting with people in unexpected places. Was home over xmas and a woman just sat down at my table (asked first, obviously) in a cafe in Dublin and we just had a grand auld chin-wag over our lunch. This would never, ever happen here. In fact, it's considered rude to ask a stranger to share their table even if they're one person sitting a massive table for 10 people.

This kind of thing happened maybe 15 times while I was home for 10 days in various places.

04-01-2012 12:05AM

i'm happy enough here for now
i wouldn't be averse to settling down abroad though, some time

Yahew · 04-01-2012 12:07AM

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

I don't live in Ireland but one thing that'd bring me home if I could go home...the spontaneous chatting with people in unexpected places. Was home over xmas and a woman just sat down at my table (asked first, obviously) in a cafe in Dublin and we just had a grand auld chin-wag over our lunch. This would never, ever happen here. In fact, it's considered rude to ask a stranger to share their table even if they're one person sitting a massive table for 10 people.

This kind of thing happened maybe 15 times while I was home for 10 days in various places.

Yeah, I am in Dublin for a week, working out of a hotel. I live in England mostly. Just got room service - no alcohol I swear - and the a girl and I had a talk about stuff for about 10 minutes. In most countries they come in, and go, with not a word.

TheUsual · 04-01-2012 12:08AM

ician wrote: »

the cheese

The traditional Irish. (who could leave it)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V6a_KnEV0Q

mattjack · 04-01-2012 12:09AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Ah you can get ham lots of places. Now corned beef sambos. That's a reason to stay!

(on batch bread!)
(with kerrygold!)

http://www.google.ie/imgres?q=homer+simpson+drooling+gif&um=1&hl=en&safe=off&sa=N&biw=770&bih=444&tbm=isch&tbnid=UE_TeM0GW9kU6M:&imgrefurl=http://bluelaugh.blogspot.com/2009/07/mmmm-food.html&docid=4i0Q4Q3fbRKTAM&imgurl=http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wgh3P0eqLmk/SYGEDnKRdJI/AAAAAAAAERM/Nvgmv1t9U9g/s1600/drooling_homer-712749.gif.png&w=279&h=320&ei=iooDT5qdEMeXhQfTwsj3Ag&zoom=1

Grimreaper666 · 04-01-2012 12:09AM

Immaculate Pasta wrote: »

I hate After Hours posters like this who just sit on the fence about issues :mad:

Hate me all you like but it's people like you are going to go down with the ship, I ran a successful business for twenty odd years and seen my whole life go down the pan due to bad management buy successive governments whose only solution to the problem is to tax us out of the recession. I've had to sell off any assets I had left at a knockdown price just to try and recover enough money to get out of here as I couldn't find work, got no social welfare benefits, despite paying PRSI all my life and now simply couldn't afford to live here any longer. The sooner people realise how bad things are going to get the better for them.

I passed the American embassy last week and couldn't believe how many people were queuing to try and get visas out of here, I was speaking to a taxi driver and he told me it was quiet that day, you should see it on a busy day.

We've been sold out for the banks, there's no doubt about that and whoever's staying will be paying off their debts for at least the next twenty years or so.

Eve_Dublin · 04-01-2012 12:10AM

Yahew wrote: »

Yeah, I am in Dublin for a week, working out of a hotel. I live in England mostly. Just got room service - no alcohol I swear - and the a girl and I had a talk about stuff for about 10 minutes. In most countries they come in, and go, with not a word.

Are you sure it wasn't me?

cloud493 · 04-01-2012 12:20AM

Tonto86 wrote: »

Did the mass of people going the opposit way through immigration not seem off putting?

I got the ferry.

Immaculate Pasta · 04-01-2012 12:23AM

Grimreaper666 wrote: »

Hate me all you like but it's people like you are going to go down with the ship, I ran a successful business for twenty odd years and seen my whole life go down the pan due to bad management buy successive governments whose only solution to the problem is to tax us out of the recession. I've had to sell off any assets I had left at a knockdown price just to try and recover enough money to get out of here as I couldn't find work, got no social welfare benefits, despite paying PRSI all my life and now simply couldn't afford to live here any longer. The sooner people realise how bad things are going to get the better for them.

I passed the American embassy last week and couldn't believe how many people were queuing to try and get visas out of here, I was speaking to a taxi driver and he told me it was quiet that day, you should see it on a busy day.

We've been sold out for the banks, there's no doubt about that and whoever's staying will be paying off their debts for at least the next twenty years or so.

Woah :eek:. Didn't think my sarcastic comment would be result in a lecture about my future and a rant on the Irish economy.

Err g'luck :cool:

Grimreaper666 · 04-01-2012 12:28AM

Immaculate Pasta wrote: »

Woah :eek:. Didn't think my sarcastic comment would be result in a lecture about my future and a rant on the Irish economy.

Err g'luck :cool:

Hope you don't make the same mistake as me and take the word of our government that everything was going swimmingly......

ClovenHoof · 04-01-2012 12:32AM

Batterburgers.

Faith+1 · 04-01-2012 12:32AM

Grimreaper666 wrote: »

Hope you don't make the same mistake as me and take the word of our government that everything was going swimmingly......

Jesus reaper that's tough. Where did you emigrate to? And you think it's going to get worse?

Grimreaper666 · 04-01-2012 12:40AM

Faith+1 wrote: »

Jesus reaper that's tough. Where did you emigrate to? And you think it's going to get worse?

In the UK at the moment but moving on to Canada by summer. Yeah, convinced it's getting worse alright, my brothers an accountant and he reckons there's no hope, even the company he's working for is hanging by a thread and it's a big one!! He's off to Canada and won't be back either. Property's in free fall and who knows when or where that's going to hit rock bottom.

westendgirlie · 04-01-2012 12:43AM

Well this threads cheery

Yahew · 04-01-2012 12:44AM

Grimreaper666 wrote: »

In the UK at the moment but moving on to Canada by summer. Yeah, convinced it's getting worse alright, my brothers an accountant and he reckons there's no hope, even the company he's working for is hanging by a thread and it's a big one!! He's off to Canada and won't be back either. Property's in free fall and who knows when or where that's going to hit rock bottom.

I bet Warren buffet is buying it all up.

Grimreaper666 · 04-01-2012 12:46AM

westendgirlie wrote: »

Well this threads cheery

Not much point in living in cloud cuckoo land as our betters will have you believe while this place sinks. Ye have been warned!!!!

Grimreaper666 · 04-01-2012 12:48AM

Yahew wrote: »

I bet Warren buffet is buying it all up.

It's far from rock bottom at the moment, if you want bargains you'll have to be well in with NAMA and their cronies,;).

BornToKill · 04-01-2012 12:48AM

One reason to stay is that Ireland is mostly harmless in deadly natural phenomena compared to most other countries. No poisonous snakes or spiders, crocodiles, sharks, tigers, tornadoes, tsunamis, scorpions, cape buffalo, mosquitoes or elephants. Wasps are about as bad as it gets.

Yahew · 04-01-2012 12:50AM

Grimreaper666 wrote: »

It's far from rock bottom at the moment, if you want bargains you'll have to be well in with NAMA and their cronies,;).

possibly that is true. The fact is he isn't in here yet. Sorry to hear about your troubles in Ireland. I do think the way self employed people are treated re: the dole is a bit crazy.

That said - Ireland has some chances to recover. However austerity cant help it.

El_Dangeroso · 04-01-2012 12:51AM

I lived abroad for a while and there were things that were better but Ireland has some things that can never be replaced by so called 'quality of life' abroad:

A relatively mild climate - yes it rains constantly but we don't get boiling repressive heat or ridiculous freezing (this year anyway)

The wildlife can't kill you, no poisonous snakes, spiders etc.

Access to culture, newspapers, tv, yes mostly from Britain but without having to live there.

The Irish sense of sarcasm and humour, this I missed the most. People in 'the colonies' don't get 'taking the piss', they get offended.

I think Stewart Lee sums it up for me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry0Bv1HQRD4

Also will people stop saying that people have emigrated when they've just buggered off on a working holiday for a year, there's no coffin ships, quit the melodrama, ye'll be back in a year ffs!

Reasons not the emigrate?

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