Reasons not the emigrate?

The Scientician

I'm compiling a list of reasons to stay put, both funny and serious.

Here's what I've got so far:

All my family is here (this could also be a reason to emigrate depending on your family.)
Most of my friends are here (although with each passing year more seem to move away.)


What makes you stay even if all signs point to the airport and getting the frig out of here?

cloud493

I emigrated here.

TeddyTedson

The medical card is a reason people stay.

Tonto86

Only reason I can think is if I've been glued to the floor....

10 weeks and I'm outa here

44leto

If you are young go, it will be an adventure, a break from the norm, an experience and you can always come back.

Tonto86

cloud493 wrote: »

I emigrated here.

Did the mass of people going the opposit way through immigration not seem off putting?

Pherekydes

cloud493 wrote: »

I emigrated here.

Migrated.

Conchir

Tayto.

flanzer

A decent pint of Guinness

RMD

Serious:

It increases the dependent ratio. A dependent is someone who relies on state aid such as Children (child benefit, school subsidies, grants etc) and the Elderly (Pensions, Medical cards etc). Those under 18 and over 65 are classified as Dependants, those between 18-65 aren't as they generally provide to the state instead of take from the state (not a negative description, just best way to sum it up).

By staying here you'll help slowly balance the dependency ratio, albeit very slightly. Each slight adjustment to it at that though slowly adds up. Problem is finding a job so as to be an asset rather than a dependant.

The Uninvited Guest

Mary Byrne's Rehab Bingo

Micky Dolenz

Water.

Our beaches, lakes and rivers. Ireland is by far the nicest country I have ever had the pleasure of living in.

hondasam

If you want to emigrate do it and stop making up excuses, I never understand why people do this.
If you cannot survive without family and friends then you are not mature enough to emigrate.
you will make new friends and your family will still be where you left them.

ThePower11

The beautiful women... on second thoughts just go OP.

membersonly

Emigration is not for everybody, if you don't want to leave, you should stay...

hondasam

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Water.

Our beaches, lakes and rivers. Ireland is by far the nicest country I have ever had the pleasure of living in.

I think you have to have lived in another country to appreciate it. I would agree with you nicest place to live.

Immaculate Pasta

I'm considering this emigration lark at the moment. What do you do exactly? Just get a plane out to Perth then hang around a building site and say to someone hey mate give us a job. Serious question

Cicero

Brennan's Bread and ham sandwiches.

hondasam

Immaculate Pasta wrote: »

I'm considering this emigration lark at the moment. What do you do exactly? Just get a plane out to Perth then hang around a building site and say to someone hey mate give us a job. Serious question

you might need to research it a bit more before you get carried away.

ThePower11

Immaculate Pasta wrote: »

I'm considering this emigration lark at the moment. What do you do exactly? Just get a plane out to Perth then hang around a building site and say to someone hey mate give us a job. Serious question

There's the small matter of a VISA and funding to support yourself, €5000 afaik.

3ndahalfof6

its the only place you can find beggars with no shoes shot in the knee with an arrow, and where everything is wonderful so much so Alice wanted to live here.

The Uninvited Guest

ThePower11 wrote: »

There's the small matter of a VISA and funding to support yourself, €5000 afaik.

€3000 imo ?!

spirit_77

wouldnt be able to make reasons not to emigrate threads

3ndahalfof6

ThePower11 wrote: »

There's the small matter of a VISA and funding to support yourself, €5000 afaik.

That was Berties sudonym.

shefra

The Weather

Yahew

reasons not to emigrate:

house prices are getting cheaper.

Senna

Watching Euro 2012 in the local pubs.



Unless your going to emigrating to Poland of course.

Cicero

Cicero wrote: »

Brennan's Bread and ham sandwiches.

Ah you can get ham lots of places. Now corned beef sambos. That's a reason to stay!

(on batch bread!)
(with kerrygold!)

Immaculate Pasta

hondasam wrote: »

you might need to research it a bit more before you get carried away.

That's a given, I'm not jumping on a plane tomorrow . I'm graduating in six months and I've realised that the job outlook is rather grim having been unsuccessful on 20 job applications and counting. Have had a few interviews but when I've been to interviews who say we can only afford to hire 2 and you're in the final 13 from over 100 applicants it's not exactly the best odds. Thinking it's time to move somewhere that's booming for the time being.

ThePower11 wrote: »

There's the small matter of a VISA and funding to support yourself, €5000 afaik.

Hmmm. I assume that's the working holiday visa for the year. I'd factored in it would cost around that with flights over and accommodation.

I'm just interested in anyone's responses. Do you fly over without a job and a place to live then try and get one out there or do people generally have themselves set up before they go?

Every young one in Ireland seems to be at it at the minute and being at university and not out in the working world I haven't really given it much thought.

Bigus

shefra wrote: »

The Weather

Met an Australian who came to live here and loves the weather compared to his homeland, same boring weather every day, he loves the variety of weather here ...seriously. I do too

Armadillo

The Dole is massive, medical card gives nearly free healthcare, random handouts of hardship cash after blowing the dole drinking over a bank holiday weekend, rent allowance, free cheese from the EU sometimes, nixering on the dole, no win no fee solicitors, free legal aid, revolving door court\jail system, free physeptone, the afternoon show, fair city and Joe Duffy. This place is great.

Augmerson

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Water.

Our beaches, lakes and rivers. Ireland is by far the nicest country I have ever had the pleasure of living in.

I used to feel the same way, but having visited countries like Canada and Sweden, I'd have to say we could do a whole lot better to preserve and maintain our environment. Illegal dumping on back country roads or in woods makes me want to shoot people in the face repeatedly.

Grimreaper666

Just go OP, this placed is so fcuked you wouldn't believe, when you see economists from the ERSI packing their bags to emigrate and our finance minister putting his money into Norwegian Krone, businesses folding all over the place, how many more bad omens do you want to see? The country's heading for a depression, not just another recession and with all the extra charges and taxes it's unlikely we'll ever recover i'm sorry to say.

TheZohanS

Grimreaper666 wrote: »

Just go OP, this placed is so fcuked you wouldn't believe, when you see economists from the ERSI packing their bags to emigrate and our finance minister putting his money into Norwegian Krone, businesses folding all over the place, how many more bad omens do you want to see? The country's heading for a depression, not just another recession and with all the extra charges and taxes it's unlikely we'll ever recover i'm sorry to say.

Jebus...when the Grim Reaper is telling you to emigrate you know things are bad...

Ave Sodalis

Grimreaper666 wrote: »

Just go OP, this placed is so fcuked you wouldn't believe, when you see economists from the ERSI packing their bags to emigrate and our finance minister putting his money into Norwegian Krone, businesses folding all over the place, how many more bad omens do you want to see? The country's heading for in a depression, not just another recession and with all the extra charges and taxes it's unlikely we'll ever recover i'm sorry to say.

FYP


OP, you will not get a decent cup of tae anywhere else in the world. Fact.

Immaculate Pasta

Grimreaper666 wrote: »

Just go OP, this placed is so fcuked you wouldn't believe, when you see economists from the ERSI packing their bags to emigrate and our finance minister putting his money into Norwegian Krone, businesses folding all over the place, how many more bad omens do you want to see? The country's heading for a depression, not just another recession and with all the extra charges and taxes it's unlikely we'll ever recover i'm sorry to say.

I hate After Hours posters like this who just sit on the fence about issues :mad:

NTMK

The Scientician wrote: »

I'm compiling a list of reasons to stay put, both funny and serious.

Here's what I've got so far:

All my family is here (this could also be a reason to emigrate depending on your family.)
Most of my friends are here (although with each passing year more seem to move away.)


What makes you stay even if all signs point to the airport and getting the frig out of here?

Same as you op
I graduate in 6 months and i'm debating whether or not im going to emigrate when i graduate

Like you my family is here (but that will prob change for me) and my friends are here (although only my few college friends remain and most are planning to emigrate)

My advice would be that if all signs point to emigrate then go youll be happier if you do

Yahew

Did an ESRI economist leave and say Ireland is fcuked. I'll be popping back to buy some property so.

philologos

The Scientician wrote: »

What makes you stay even if all signs point to the airport and getting the frig out of here?

I left a few months ago. I finished at university this summer, I was thinking of studying further but then another opportunity arose and I took it. It's not a hard and fast rule of whether one should stay or go, it's about what works for a particular person. It seemed that I was being drawn out to look elsewhere for a while or maybe even longer. It's not that I hated Ireland or anything, it just seemed that it was a part of the bigger plan in life to leave for a while. Some people might be called to stay so it wouldn't be fair for me to say that everyone should leave, or indeed that everyone should stay.

Everyone has different reasons and a different story for leaving.

ician

the cheese

TheUsual

Yahew wrote: »

Did an ESRI economist leave and say Ireland is fcuked. I'll be popping back to buy some property so.

One big bearded long-haired Dutchman went for a teaching job in Sussex(?) University.
He complained that the ESRI would not let economists talk to the media directly and that was why he was off.

To be honest he looked more like one of those 6 months in the Amazon survival scientists.
I am thinking that the ERSI brought in this rule just to stop him from talking to RTE.

Spare job going in the ESRI though ?

Eve_Dublin

I don't live in Ireland but one thing that'd bring me home if I could go home...the spontaneous chatting with people in unexpected places. Was home over xmas and a woman just sat down at my table (asked first, obviously) in a cafe in Dublin and we just had a grand auld chin-wag over our lunch. This would never, ever happen here. In fact, it's considered rude to ask a stranger to share their table even if they're one person sitting a massive table for 10 people.

This kind of thing happened maybe 15 times while I was home for 10 days in various places.

i'm happy enough here for now
i wouldn't be averse to settling down abroad though, some time

Yahew

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

I don't live in Ireland but one thing that'd bring me home if I could go home...the spontaneous chatting with people in unexpected places. Was home over xmas and a woman just sat down at my table (asked first, obviously) in a cafe in Dublin and we just had a grand auld chin-wag over our lunch. This would never, ever happen here. In fact, it's considered rude to ask a stranger to share their table even if they're one person sitting a massive table for 10 people.

This kind of thing happened maybe 15 times while I was home for 10 days in various places.

Yeah, I am in Dublin for a week, working out of a hotel. I live in England mostly. Just got room service - no alcohol I swear - and the a girl and I had a talk about stuff for about 10 minutes. In most countries they come in, and go, with not a word.

TheUsual

ician wrote: »

the cheese

The traditional Irish. (who could leave it)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V6a_KnEV0Q

mattjack

Deleted User wrote: »

Ah you can get ham lots of places. Now corned beef sambos. That's a reason to stay!

(on batch bread!)
(with kerrygold!)

http://www.google.ie/imgres?q=homer+simpson+drooling+gif&um=1&hl=en&safe=off&sa=N&biw=770&bih=444&tbm=isch&tbnid=UE_TeM0GW9kU6M:&imgrefurl=http://bluelaugh.blogspot.com/2009/07/mmmm-food.html&docid=4i0Q4Q3fbRKTAM&imgurl=http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wgh3P0eqLmk/SYGEDnKRdJI/AAAAAAAAERM/Nvgmv1t9U9g/s1600/drooling_homer-712749.gif.png&w=279&h=320&ei=iooDT5qdEMeXhQfTwsj3Ag&zoom=1

Grimreaper666

Immaculate Pasta wrote: »

I hate After Hours posters like this who just sit on the fence about issues :mad:

Hate me all you like but it's people like you are going to go down with the ship, I ran a successful business for twenty odd years and seen my whole life go down the pan due to bad management buy successive governments whose only solution to the problem is to tax us out of the recession. I've had to sell off any assets I had left at a knockdown price just to try and recover enough money to get out of here as I couldn't find work, got no social welfare benefits, despite paying PRSI all my life and now simply couldn't afford to live here any longer. The sooner people realise how bad things are going to get the better for them.

I passed the American embassy last week and couldn't believe how many people were queuing to try and get visas out of here, I was speaking to a taxi driver and he told me it was quiet that day, you should see it on a busy day.

We've been sold out for the banks, there's no doubt about that and whoever's staying will be paying off their debts for at least the next twenty years or so.

Eve_Dublin

Yahew wrote: »

Yeah, I am in Dublin for a week, working out of a hotel. I live in England mostly. Just got room service - no alcohol I swear - and the a girl and I had a talk about stuff for about 10 minutes. In most countries they come in, and go, with not a word.

Are you sure it wasn't me?

cloud493

Tonto86 wrote: »

Did the mass of people going the opposit way through immigration not seem off putting?

I got the ferry.

Immaculate Pasta

Grimreaper666 wrote: »

Hate me all you like but it's people like you are going to go down with the ship, I ran a successful business for twenty odd years and seen my whole life go down the pan due to bad management buy successive governments whose only solution to the problem is to tax us out of the recession. I've had to sell off any assets I had left at a knockdown price just to try and recover enough money to get out of here as I couldn't find work, got no social welfare benefits, despite paying PRSI all my life and now simply couldn't afford to live here any longer. The sooner people realise how bad things are going to get the better for them.

I passed the American embassy last week and couldn't believe how many people were queuing to try and get visas out of here, I was speaking to a taxi driver and he told me it was quiet that day, you should see it on a busy day.

We've been sold out for the banks, there's no doubt about that and whoever's staying will be paying off their debts for at least the next twenty years or so.

Woah :eek:. Didn't think my sarcastic comment would be result in a lecture about my future and a rant on the Irish economy.

Err g'luck :cool:

Grimreaper666

Immaculate Pasta wrote: »

Woah :eek:. Didn't think my sarcastic comment would be result in a lecture about my future and a rant on the Irish economy.

Err g'luck :cool:

Hope you don't make the same mistake as me and take the word of our government that everything was going swimmingly......