Inter Marital Rape was just fine in 1981

Leftist · 03-01-2012 11:51AM #1

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/1231/1224309674891.html

“In many, probably most such cases a quarrel would be likely, followed a few days later by reconciliation. But if an angry wife could call in the police, who would have a duty to investigate her complaint with all that follows when rape is alleged, some of us consider there might be little chance of reconciliation,” the minority report had said.
An early draft of the minister’s speech to the Dáil was also included in the file.
It said marriage was a “very complex relationship” and the introduction of an offence of marital rape “could be very detrimental to the family”.

This is a good example of what happens when conservatisim and religion seep into politics.

What a disgusting time and place to live.

pickarooney · 03-01-2012 11:54AM

We should bomb that time out of existence!

smash · 03-01-2012 11:57AM

It was acceptable in the 80's.... sing it with me

krudler · 03-01-2012 11:59AM

condoms were illegal outside chemists until 1991 iirc, thats just fcuking nuts.

smash · 03-01-2012 12:00PM

krudler wrote: »

condoms were illegal outside chemists until 1991 iirc, thats just fcuking nuts.

Don;t think you can get pregnant from that though.

gcgirl · 03-01-2012 12:22PM

krudler wrote: »

condoms were illegal outside chemists until 1991 iirc, thats just fcuking nuts.

Yeh I remember when The Virgin Megastore started selling them around the 1990 time just before it was legal to sell them outside a chemist the uproar it caused

gcgirl · 03-01-2012 12:27PM

Even the amount of people who were against Divorce was unreal, even though I was pretty young I still remember the divorce referendum in 86(think it was that yr) and people were really opposed to it, and I thought that you should not have to put up with being in a dead relationship and abusive relationdhips and was for it, for an 11 yr old I was starting to be quite a liberal and idealist

smash · 03-01-2012 12:29PM

The sooner the people with these kinds of beliefs die off, the better! You'd assume it's heading that way but when you step outside a city in Ireland you see just how backwards the place still is.

professore · 03-01-2012 12:35PM

smash wrote: »

The sooner the people with these kinds of beliefs die off, the better! You'd assume it's heading that way but when you step outside a city in Ireland you see just how backwards the place still is.

You're making big assumptions there ... I live in Cork city and there are lots of people here with these attitudes - not me I hasten to add.

Dravokivich · 03-01-2012 12:36PM

Fúck me, Ireland is a better place to live in 30 years later... really?

smash · 03-01-2012 12:38PM

professore wrote: »

You're making big assumptions there ... I live in Cork city and there are lots of people here with these attitudes - not me I hasten to add.

Well Cork is more backwards than most in fairness.

Ellis Dee · 03-01-2012 12:38PM

I had a nice little earner going in the 1970s - smuggling suitcases full of condoms into Ireland. I used to get them wholesale from Riksförbundet för Sexuell Upplysning (the Swedish Association for Sexuality Education), which gave me a special discount and lots of free samples when I told them about the situation in Ireland.;)

Fortunately, I was never caught.:)

It was an Ireland that I hope has gone for ever. The boys who ran the show were the men in black, the bishops, and those we elected to manage our secular affairs just did their bidding. Meanwhile, the tens of thousands of children who were abandoned into the care of the religious orders were gaining some very real experience of what "family values" meant to the kiddy-fiddler church and its running dogs.:eek:

old_aussie · 03-01-2012 12:39PM

What's the difference between inter marital rape and marital rape

TheZohanS · 03-01-2012 12:40PM

Think there was a court case about this not too long ago where a husband continually raped his wife and he was brought to court...couldn't be convicted of the crime because it technically wasn't a crime then.

Leftist · 03-01-2012 12:40PM

gcgirl wrote: »

Even the amount of people who were against Divorce was unreal, even though I was pretty young I still remember the divorce referendum in 86(think it was that yr) and people were really opposed to it, and I thought that you should not have to put up with being in a dead relationship and abusive relationdhips and was for it, for an 11 yr old I was starting to be quite a liberal and idealist

It's madness. An absolute shame on the country and some people want to go back to those days.

pickarooney · 03-01-2012 12:40PM

"Marital rape" suggests that you're raping a marriage.

smash · 03-01-2012 12:42PM

TheZohan wrote: »

Think there was a court case about this not too long ago where a husband continually raped his wife and he was brought to court...couldn't be convicted of the crime because it technically wasn't a crime then.

I don't think anal counts though.

old_aussie · 03-01-2012 12:45PM

krudler wrote: »

condoms were illegal outside chemists until 1991 iirc, thats just fcuking nuts.

Jeasus, you must have had a lot of foocking going on in chemits shops in them days.

old_aussie · 03-01-2012 12:49PM

TheZohan wrote: »

Think there was a court case about this not too long ago where a husband continually raped his wife and he was brought to court...couldn't be convicted of the crime because it technically wasn't a crime then.

Technically, it's STILL not a crime in many countries that are run by a certain religion.

gcgirl · 03-01-2012 12:49PM

old_aussie wrote: »

krudler wrote: »

condoms were illegal outside chemists until 1991 iirc, thats just fcuking nuts.

Jeasus, you must have had a lot of foocking going on in chemits shops in them days.

Plus you have to have had a marriage cert to get them in the 70's/80's

spurious · 03-01-2012 12:51PM

gcgirl wrote: »

Plus you have to have had a marriage cert to get them in the 70's/80's

Plus a prescription as I recall.

seamus · 03-01-2012 12:54PM

“I might add that I am not satisfied that women generally are suffering from a burning sense of injustice of the existence of the rule relating to the husband’s immunity,”

:eek:

Fup me. I'm actually surprised at how far we've managed to come in 30 years.

spurious wrote:

Plus a prescription as I recall.

Afaik, condoms were permitted only where there was a good reason why the wife shouldn't get pregnant, such as a medical condition. Otherwise if you had no good reason, then presumably she was supposed to be pregnant the rest of the time.

Leftist · 03-01-2012 12:55PM

old_aussie wrote: »

Technically, it's STILL not a crime in many countries that are run by a certain religion.

Before you start throwing stones at muslims just remember we would still be in this position and hundreds of children would still be abused every year if that sacred christian institution had it's way.

No to any religion.

old_aussie · 03-01-2012 01:05PM

Leftist wrote: »

No to any religion.

Too Right

goose2005 · 03-01-2012 01:20PM

professore wrote: »

You're making big assumptions there ... I live in Cork city and there are lots of people here with these attitudes - not me I hasten to add.

When he said "a city", he meant Dublin. Cork city is just a big village.

Logical Fallacy · 03-01-2012 01:25PM

smash wrote: »

The sooner the people with these kinds of beliefs die off, the better! You'd assume it's heading that way but when you step outside a city in Ireland you see just how backwards the place still is.

lol

getz · 03-01-2012 01:26PM

spurious wrote: »

Plus a prescription as I recall.

you could always use the rhythm method,,er if you can find a band at two in the morning

Ellis Dee · 03-01-2012 01:27PM

spurious wrote: »

Plus a prescription as I recall.

Yes, quite correct. Indeed, there was one pharmacist in Portlaoise - a wizened little craw-thumping, altar-eating limp-dick Catholic, probably a member of Opus Dei or the Knights of Columbanus or some such organisation of Catholic zealots - who refused to sell them to my sister, whom he knew to be married. As far as I know, he just refused to sell them to everyone, despite the fact that his licence required him to serve the public in Ireland rather than the Protector of Paedophile Everywhere in Rome.:eek:

That bizarre law prompted amusement and/or bemusement in Britain and one journalist - from the Guardian, I think - mentioned it in an interview with that paragon of family values (when he wasn't shagging his mistress) Charles J. Haughey.

Haughey replied that it was "An Irish solution to an Irish problem".:rolleyes:

In the meantime, to the chagrin of those who would like to control our lives in the way they imagine the sky fairy wants them to, we have also found a solution to another Irish problem - abortion.

The name of that solution is "England". Eat your hearts out Holy Joes and Holy Auld Biddies - of whatever age!:rolleyes:

bronte · 03-01-2012 01:27PM

http://goireland.about.com/od/preparingyourtrip/qt/contraception.htm

Doctors could at the same time hand out prescriptions for "the pill", as long as this oral contraceptive was only used to regulate menstruation. Lots of Irish women started to suffer from irregular periods all of a sudden.

:pac:

Ellis Dee · 03-01-2012 01:29PM

getz wrote: »

you could always use the rhythm method,,er if you can find a band at two in the morning

The rhythm method aka "Vatican roulette".

SisterAnn · 03-01-2012 01:32PM

old_aussie wrote: »

What's the difference between inter marital rape and marital rape

Think it should read 'intra'.

So where does all this leave 'conjugal' rights? Are they now history? You hear about them in relation to prison visits. What if a fella wants his conjugal rights whilst not in prison. Is it just a case of tough for you son, married the wrong bint? Delicate stuff.

Inter Marital Rape was just fine in 1981

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