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Hostel where you sleep while standing ?????

  • 23-12-2011 01:46AM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭


    Ok I choose the thread title so that someone would see it and go ''wtf'' where and whats this but heres the deal:

    For years my older relatives have been joking about something they call ''standing lodgings''
    They say that poor people used to sleep standing tied to a wall like sardines leaning over a rope . Maybe in some kind of hostel from hell I don't know. Personally I'd rather sleep under a bush than standing up as I can't even get a decent 10 minute sleep in a seat on a plane.

    So is there any truth to this myth or urban legend of ''standing lodgings'' or ''standup lodgings'' ?

    The odd thing is I put the search terms into Google and cannot even find a reference to it as a myth nevermind reality. It doesn't even seem to come up as a legend yet I've heard of the idea from people who do not even know one another so the idea is around from somewhere. Has anyone heard of this before ? I don't think it can be true but why isn't it even in Google as a busted myth ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Most old people are either senile or just blatant liars.

    Don't listen to a fucking word they say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭eth0


    Surely a myth perpetuated by Michael O'Leary to get some publicity. He must at least have something to do with this


    Long ago i read a thing about people sleeping standing up when they're in space. but which way do they consider up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,590 ✭✭✭theteal


    crazy old fools





    mmmmm sweeties


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    Eh, maybe they were describing a psychward, psychward.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 946 ✭✭✭Hasmunch


    Most old people are either senile or just blatant liars

    A bit from column A and a bit from column B


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭wilkie2006


    psychward wrote: »
    Ok I choose the thread title so that someone would see it and go ''wtf'' where and whats this but heres the deal:

    For years my older relatives have been joking about something they call ''standing lodgings''
    They say that poor people used to sleep standing tied to a wall like sardines leaning over a rope . Maybe in some kind of hostel from hell I don't know. Personally I'd rather sleep under a bush than standing up as I can't even get a decent 10 minute sleep in a seat on a plane.

    So is there any truth to this myth or urban legend of ''standing lodgings'' or ''standup lodgings'' ?

    The odd thing is I put the search terms into Google and cannot even find a reference to it as a myth nevermind reality. It doesn't even seem to come up as a legend yet I've heard of the idea from people who do not even know one another so the idea is around from somewhere. Has anyone heard of this before ? I don't think it can be true but why isn't it even in Google as a busted myth ?

    Ah, it kinda sounds like one of those stories an oul fella tells you; like the days he had to walk 30 miles to the shops in his bare feet, reciting the Bible in Latin while being whipped across the arse by a Protestant landowner... and then he had to sleep standing up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,694 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Try looking up 'sleeping over a rope'. I can't say how accurate it is, all the references to it seem to go back to a very few accounts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,162 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    It was for drunken drovers at marts. They used to have to walk the animals for anything up to a day. When they got to the mart they'd go on the beer. At the back of the Shebeen they'd tie a rope across a few tree's and drag the drovers out when they fell asleep. They just cut the rope to wake them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭RichieC


    where's josephbrand, the only man ive seeb sleep standing up...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭mlumley




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    I have heard of these too before from a chap who was in one in the 50's and thought they sounded a bit mental. They would lean on a piece of rope and be easy pickings for pick pocketers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    mlumley wrote: »

    Hah, I just found that too and this



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_sit-up

    Guess me mate was off by about 50 years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Thread about it here

    http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=2488

    I was under the impression it was a single rope that several men leaned on. There is noway in hell I would manage to sleep like that. Any slight movement and I'd be awake and murdering.

    Edit :Pics: Oh it is like I imagined. God , gettin mad into this now :) must try it sometime...

    http://forum.casebook.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=5138&d=1238528093

    http://forum.casebook.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=5245&d=1239159863


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 923 ✭✭✭Johnny Foreigner


    psychward wrote: »
    Ok I choose the thread title so that someone would see it and go ''wtf'' where and whats this but heres the deal:

    For years my older relatives have been joking about something they call ''standing lodgings''
    They say that poor people used to sleep standing tied to a wall like sardines leaning over a rope . Maybe in some kind of hostel from hell I don't know. Personally I'd rather sleep under a bush than standing up as I can't even get a decent 10 minute sleep in a seat on a plane.

    So is there any truth to this myth or urban legend of ''standing lodgings'' or ''standup lodgings'' ?

    The odd thing is I put the search terms into Google and cannot even find a reference to it as a myth nevermind reality. It doesn't even seem to come up as a legend yet I've heard of the idea from people who do not even know one another so the idea is around from somewhere. Has anyone heard of this before ? I don't think it can be true but why isn't it even in Google as a busted myth ?

    I can testify that sleeping on a rope as it was commonly known existed in London during the 1950's and 1960's. It was mainly for Irish working men of the time (Navvies) that were too drunk to make their way home from the pub. It sounds ridiculous I know, but it really happened. I remember my Father asking one of his friends; did you ever sleep on the rope? His friend laughed and replied, didn't we all at some time?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    reminds me of that scene from Sniper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Capsule hotel > This.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭getz


    i was very common in the UK in the 20s ,the sleeping across a rope standing up,was in all the sally army hostels,as many people ,usualy men had no homes or working away from home,these hostles were always full and there would never be enough room to lie down,you young whippersnapers have it to easy,in my day...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭psychward


    Ha so theres an element of truth in the nostalgic ravings of old people after all.
    Cutting the rope to wake them up sounds like a recipe for breaking some bones in a time when people were probably more malnourished in a time with no fancy calcium +vitamin D supplements and hence would have had weaker bones.
    Thanks especially to anyone who provided a link. I probably would have gone nuts and on a killing spree and had at least one goods night sleep before walking to the gallows if I had to live that way... LOL


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    I once slept on a stairs, I woke up in the shape of the stairs.

    So OP if you are drunk enough you would sleep in any position.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    Most old people are either senile or just blatant liars.

    Don't listen to a fucking word they say.

    I have taken your advice on board and put you on ignore.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    psychward wrote: »
    Ok I choose the thread title so that someone would see it and go ''wtf'' where and whats this but heres the deal:

    For years my older relatives have been joking about something they call ''standing lodgings''
    They say that poor people used to sleep standing tied to a wall like sardines leaning over a rope . Maybe in some kind of hostel from hell I don't know. Personally I'd rather sleep under a bush than standing up as I can't even get a decent 10 minute sleep in a seat on a plane.

    So is there any truth to this myth or urban legend of ''standing lodgings'' or ''standup lodgings'' ?

    The odd thing is I put the search terms into Google and cannot even find a reference to it as a myth nevermind reality. It doesn't even seem to come up as a legend yet I've heard of the idea from people who do not even know one another so the idea is around from somewhere. Has anyone heard of this before ? I don't think it can be true but why isn't it even in Google as a busted myth ?

    * http://en.dayabook.com/2009/03/penny-hang_19.html

    * http://thumped.com/bbs/showthread.php?63903-The-Penny-Hang-a-viable-accommodation-option-nowadays

    * http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/28/messages/179.html

    * http://www.squidoo.com/tuppence-on-the-rope

    The rope methods of sleeping was well know in my day of education.
    It was taught then as part of my education in history.
    Sad that these things now have descended to 'myth' status when in fact they were very real.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    psychward wrote: »
    Ok I choose the thread title so that someone would see it and go ''wtf'' where and whats this but heres the deal:

    For years my older relatives have been joking about something they call ''standing lodgings''
    They say that poor people used to sleep standing tied to a wall like sardines leaning over a rope . Maybe in some kind of hostel from hell I don't know. Personally I'd rather sleep under a bush than standing up as I can't even get a decent 10 minute sleep in a seat on a plane.

    So is there any truth to this myth or urban legend of ''standing lodgings'' or ''standup lodgings'' ?

    The odd thing is I put the search terms into Google and cannot even find a reference to it as a myth nevermind reality. It doesn't even seem to come up as a legend yet I've heard of the idea from people who do not even know one another so the idea is around from somewhere. Has anyone heard of this before ? I don't think it can be true but why isn't it even in Google as a busted myth ?

    Yep, in the Iveagh lodge house they had this alright


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,909 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    There is a scene in the movie From Hell where all of the prostitutes are in a Salvation Army hostel asleep tied to the benches and the worker there cuts the rope and the all fall awake.

    One of the more memorable scenes of a somewhat shît movie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,668 ✭✭✭nlgbbbblth


    I started a thread about this before.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,668 ✭✭✭nlgbbbblth


    nlgbbbblth wrote: »
    I started a thread about this before.

    It was actually on thumped.com but you should be able to read it.

    http://thumped.com/bbs/showthread.php?63903-The-Penny-Hang-a-viable-accommodation-option-nowadays


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,909 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    nlgbbbblth wrote: »
    It was actually on thumped.com but you should be able to read it.

    http://thumped.com/bbs/showthread.php?63903-The-Penny-Hang-a-viable-accommodation-option-nowadays

    Biggins already linked to your thread.:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,668 ✭✭✭nlgbbbblth


    iguana wrote: »
    Biggins already linked to your thread.:p

    sorry - didn't see that.

    There's a Penny Hang in The Further Adventures of Oliver Twist. The owner is burly and unshaven.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭woodchuck


    I heard about this for the first time recently in London on a Jack the ripper walking tour. Apparently it was common enough back then for prostitutes, drunks and the homeless to ‘sleep on the rope’ for a small fee as it was better than lying out on the dirty streets and cheaper than getting a bed.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    nlgbbbblth wrote: »
    ...There's a Penny Hang in The Further Adventures of Oliver Twist. The owner is burly and unshaven.
    Brian Cowen before going on radio but after a good night out?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭Ellis Dee


    There may be some truth to those stories about cheap flop houses and doss houses, but I suspect they were so long ago that those who say they remember them are really only recalling accounts they heard from old people long ago.:)

    http://www.squidoo.com/tuppence-on-the-rope

    A hobo's life is brave and free
    I've ofttimes heard folks say
    But I know better now I've trudged
    all through a winter's day
    I've slept in barns and garden sheds
    and in some haystacks too
    Tramped the road from coast to coast
    in ragged clothes and shoes

    But when you're down and nearly out
    and have no place to go
    You can shelter from the long hard night
    For tuppence on the rope.

    Tuppence on the rope, me boys,
    tuppence on the rope

    I've been in spikes the country round,
    Met workhouse masters many
    Most of them are harsh and stern and kind ones hardly any
    In dosshouse I've had many a kip, a sixpence for a bed
    But in these days of poverty a tanner's hard to beg.

    In Glossop Spike there's bread and scrape,
    But oh, their work is hard
    It's five hours spent just breaking stones
    Out in the workshouse yard
    In Rochdale I was given a shirt, in Bakeup got new boots
    But Blackburn's beds are hardwood boards and full of hungry coots

    Oh evil day when a man cannot get to his spike in time
    And in a dosshouse spends his pence to hang upon the line
    When workhouse masters disappear, it's not too much to hope
    That we will never see again those men hung on the rope


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