Hostel where you sleep while standing ?????

psychward

Ok I choose the thread title so that someone would see it and go ''wtf'' where and whats this but heres the deal:

For years my older relatives have been joking about something they call ''standing lodgings''
They say that poor people used to sleep standing tied to a wall like sardines leaning over a rope . Maybe in some kind of hostel from hell I don't know. Personally I'd rather sleep under a bush than standing up as I can't even get a decent 10 minute sleep in a seat on a plane.

So is there any truth to this myth or urban legend of ''standing lodgings'' or ''standup lodgings'' ?

The odd thing is I put the search terms into Google and cannot even find a reference to it as a myth nevermind reality. It doesn't even seem to come up as a legend yet I've heard of the idea from people who do not even know one another so the idea is around from somewhere. Has anyone heard of this before ? I don't think it can be true but why isn't it even in Google as a busted myth ?

starbelgrade

Most old people are either senile or just blatant liars.

Don't listen to a fucking word they say.

eth0

Surely a myth perpetuated by Michael O'Leary to get some publicity. He must at least have something to do with this


Long ago i read a thing about people sleeping standing up when they're in space. but which way do they consider up?

theteal

crazy old fools





mmmmm sweeties

Kevin Duffy

Eh, maybe they were describing a psychward, psychward.

Hasmunch

starbelgrade wrote: »

Most old people are either senile or just blatant liars

A bit from column A and a bit from column B

wilkie2006

psychward wrote: »

Ok I choose the thread title so that someone would see it and go ''wtf'' where and whats this but heres the deal:

For years my older relatives have been joking about something they call ''standing lodgings''
They say that poor people used to sleep standing tied to a wall like sardines leaning over a rope . Maybe in some kind of hostel from hell I don't know. Personally I'd rather sleep under a bush than standing up as I can't even get a decent 10 minute sleep in a seat on a plane.

So is there any truth to this myth or urban legend of ''standing lodgings'' or ''standup lodgings'' ?

The odd thing is I put the search terms into Google and cannot even find a reference to it as a myth nevermind reality. It doesn't even seem to come up as a legend yet I've heard of the idea from people who do not even know one another so the idea is around from somewhere. Has anyone heard of this before ? I don't think it can be true but why isn't it even in Google as a busted myth ?

Ah, it kinda sounds like one of those stories an oul fella tells you; like the days he had to walk 30 miles to the shops in his bare feet, reciting the Bible in Latin while being whipped across the arse by a Protestant landowner... and then he had to sleep standing up.

looksee

Try looking up 'sleeping over a rope'. I can't say how accurate it is, all the references to it seem to go back to a very few accounts.

Del2005

It was for drunken drovers at marts. They used to have to walk the animals for anything up to a day. When they got to the mart they'd go on the beer. At the back of the Shebeen they'd tie a rope across a few tree's and drag the drovers out when they fell asleep. They just cut the rope to wake them.

RichieC

where's josephbrand, the only man ive seeb sleep standing up...

mlumley

Try this link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_penny_coffin

WindSock

I have heard of these too before from a chap who was in one in the 50's and thought they sounded a bit mental. They would lean on a piece of rope and be easy pickings for pick pocketers.

WindSock

mlumley wrote: »

Try this link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_penny_coffin

Hah, I just found that too and this



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_sit-up

Guess me mate was off by about 50 years.

WindSock

Thread about it here

http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=2488

I was under the impression it was a single rope that several men leaned on. There is noway in hell I would manage to sleep like that. Any slight movement and I'd be awake and murdering.

Edit :Pics: Oh it is like I imagined. God , gettin mad into this now must try it sometime...

http://forum.casebook.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=5138&d=1238528093

http://forum.casebook.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=5245&d=1239159863

Johnny Foreigner

psychward wrote: »

Ok I choose the thread title so that someone would see it and go ''wtf'' where and whats this but heres the deal:

For years my older relatives have been joking about something they call ''standing lodgings''
They say that poor people used to sleep standing tied to a wall like sardines leaning over a rope . Maybe in some kind of hostel from hell I don't know. Personally I'd rather sleep under a bush than standing up as I can't even get a decent 10 minute sleep in a seat on a plane.

So is there any truth to this myth or urban legend of ''standing lodgings'' or ''standup lodgings'' ?

The odd thing is I put the search terms into Google and cannot even find a reference to it as a myth nevermind reality. It doesn't even seem to come up as a legend yet I've heard of the idea from people who do not even know one another so the idea is around from somewhere. Has anyone heard of this before ? I don't think it can be true but why isn't it even in Google as a busted myth ?

I can testify that sleeping on a rope as it was commonly known existed in London during the 1950's and 1960's. It was mainly for Irish working men of the time (Navvies) that were too drunk to make their way home from the pub. It sounds ridiculous I know, but it really happened. I remember my Father asking one of his friends; did you ever sleep on the rope? His friend laughed and replied, didn't we all at some time?

Hande hoche!

reminds me of that scene from Sniper.

Jesus Wept

Capsule hotel > This.

getz

i was very common in the UK in the 20s ,the sleeping across a rope standing up,was in all the sally army hostels,as many people ,usualy men had no homes or working away from home,these hostles were always full and there would never be enough room to lie down,you young whippersnapers have it to easy,in my day...

psychward

Ha so theres an element of truth in the nostalgic ravings of old people after all.
Cutting the rope to wake them up sounds like a recipe for breaking some bones in a time when people were probably more malnourished in a time with no fancy calcium +vitamin D supplements and hence would have had weaker bones.
Thanks especially to anyone who provided a link. I probably would have gone nuts and on a killing spree and had at least one goods night sleep before walking to the gallows if I had to live that way... LOL

44leto

I once slept on a stairs, I woke up in the shape of the stairs.

So OP if you are drunk enough you would sleep in any position.

Kasabian

starbelgrade wrote: »

Most old people are either senile or just blatant liars.

Don't listen to a fucking word they say.

I have taken your advice on board and put you on ignore.

Biggins

psychward wrote: »

Ok I choose the thread title so that someone would see it and go ''wtf'' where and whats this but heres the deal:

For years my older relatives have been joking about something they call ''standing lodgings''
They say that poor people used to sleep standing tied to a wall like sardines leaning over a rope . Maybe in some kind of hostel from hell I don't know. Personally I'd rather sleep under a bush than standing up as I can't even get a decent 10 minute sleep in a seat on a plane.

So is there any truth to this myth or urban legend of ''standing lodgings'' or ''standup lodgings'' ?

The odd thing is I put the search terms into Google and cannot even find a reference to it as a myth nevermind reality. It doesn't even seem to come up as a legend yet I've heard of the idea from people who do not even know one another so the idea is around from somewhere. Has anyone heard of this before ? I don't think it can be true but why isn't it even in Google as a busted myth ?

* http://en.dayabook.com/2009/03/penny-hang_19.html

* http://thumped.com/bbs/showthread.php?63903-The-Penny-Hang-a-viable-accommodation-option-nowadays

* http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/28/messages/179.html

* http://www.squidoo.com/tuppence-on-the-rope

The rope methods of sleeping was well know in my day of education.
It was taught then as part of my education in history.
Sad that these things now have descended to 'myth' status when in fact they were very real.

sensibleken

psychward wrote: »

Ok I choose the thread title so that someone would see it and go ''wtf'' where and whats this but heres the deal:

For years my older relatives have been joking about something they call ''standing lodgings''
They say that poor people used to sleep standing tied to a wall like sardines leaning over a rope . Maybe in some kind of hostel from hell I don't know. Personally I'd rather sleep under a bush than standing up as I can't even get a decent 10 minute sleep in a seat on a plane.

So is there any truth to this myth or urban legend of ''standing lodgings'' or ''standup lodgings'' ?

The odd thing is I put the search terms into Google and cannot even find a reference to it as a myth nevermind reality. It doesn't even seem to come up as a legend yet I've heard of the idea from people who do not even know one another so the idea is around from somewhere. Has anyone heard of this before ? I don't think it can be true but why isn't it even in Google as a busted myth ?

Yep, in the Iveagh lodge house they had this alright

iguana

There is a scene in the movie From Hell where all of the prostitutes are in a Salvation Army hostel asleep tied to the benches and the worker there cuts the rope and the all fall awake.

One of the more memorable scenes of a somewhat shît movie.

nlgbbbblth

I started a thread about this before.

nlgbbbblth

nlgbbbblth wrote: »

I started a thread about this before.

It was actually on thumped.com but you should be able to read it.

http://thumped.com/bbs/showthread.php?63903-The-Penny-Hang-a-viable-accommodation-option-nowadays

iguana

nlgbbbblth wrote: »

It was actually on thumped.com but you should be able to read it.

http://thumped.com/bbs/showthread.php?63903-The-Penny-Hang-a-viable-accommodation-option-nowadays

Biggins already linked to your thread.:p

nlgbbbblth

iguana wrote: »

Biggins already linked to your thread.:p

sorry - didn't see that.

There's a Penny Hang in The Further Adventures of Oliver Twist. The owner is burly and unshaven.

woodchuck

I heard about this for the first time recently in London on a Jack the ripper walking tour. Apparently it was common enough back then for prostitutes, drunks and the homeless to ‘sleep on the rope’ for a small fee as it was better than lying out on the dirty streets and cheaper than getting a bed.

Biggins

nlgbbbblth wrote: »

...There's a Penny Hang in The Further Adventures of Oliver Twist. The owner is burly and unshaven.

Brian Cowen before going on radio but after a good night out?

Ellis Dee

There may be some truth to those stories about cheap flop houses and doss houses, but I suspect they were so long ago that those who say they remember them are really only recalling accounts they heard from old people long ago.:)

http://www.squidoo.com/tuppence-on-the-rope

A hobo's life is brave and free
I've ofttimes heard folks say
But I know better now I've trudged
all through a winter's day
I've slept in barns and garden sheds
and in some haystacks too
Tramped the road from coast to coast
in ragged clothes and shoes

But when you're down and nearly out
and have no place to go
You can shelter from the long hard night
For tuppence on the rope.
Tuppence on the rope, me boys,
tuppence on the rope

I've been in spikes the country round,
Met workhouse masters many
Most of them are harsh and stern and kind ones hardly any
In dosshouse I've had many a kip, a sixpence for a bed
But in these days of poverty a tanner's hard to beg.

In Glossop Spike there's bread and scrape,
But oh, their work is hard
It's five hours spent just breaking stones
Out in the workshouse yard
In Rochdale I was given a shirt, in Bakeup got new boots
But Blackburn's beds are hardwood boards and full of hungry coots

Oh evil day when a man cannot get to his spike in time
And in a dosshouse spends his pence to hang upon the line
When workhouse masters disappear, it's not too much to hope
That we will never see again those men hung on the rope

saa

I was finding it hard to imagine how you would sleep on a rope.
But there ya go learn something disturbing every day.

Saila

44leto wrote: »

I once slept on a stairs, I woke up in the shape of the stairs.

So OP if you are drunk enough you would sleep in any position.

Im the opposite, I cant sleep when the room is spinning

Guill

Same but different..

pickarooney

nlgbbbblth wrote: »

sorry - didn't see that.

There's a Penny Hang in The Further Adventures of Oliver Twist. The owner is burly and unshaven.

I'm impressed that you managed to create two accounts with the same username Now I want to know if it means something as opposed to your cat jumping on the keyboard when you registered with boards.ie

That four-penny coffin looks kind of enticing. I can't remember the last time I slept a whole night without someone kicking me in the kidneys.

the_syco

I have slept leaning against a wall whilst standing up. Waking up when slowly falling to the side is terrifying, and you tend to flay your arms about to grab hold of something to stop yourself from falling.

Heck, people fall asleep on the trains leaving Dublin in the evenings whilst standing up, as you're often so compacted into the carriages that there's no risk of you falling over!

pockets3d

From George Orwells Down and out in Paris and London

"2. The Twopenny Hangover. This comes a little
higher than the Embankment. At the Twopenny Hang
over, the lodgers sit in a row on a bench; there is a rope
in front of them, and they lean on this as though
leaning over a fence. A man, humorously called the valet,
cuts the rope at five in the morning. I have never
been there myself, but Bozo had been there often. I asked
him whether anyone could possibly sleep in such
an attitude, and he said that it was more comfortable
than it sounded-at any rate, better than the bare
floor. There are similar shelters in Paris, but the charge
there is only twenty-five centimes (a halfpenny) instead
of twopence."

pow wow

Quite common on convict ships in the 19th century as well as slave ships. Just how old are your 'older relatives'?!

looksee

I can't imagine though that they would actually 'cut' the rope - what a waste of rope! Unwinding it from a cleat would have much the same effect, and would probably feel the same at 5am!

pockets3d

looksee wrote: »

I can't imagine though that they would actually 'cut' the rope - what a waste of rope! Unwinding it from a cleat would have much the same effect, and would probably feel the same at 5am!

Maybe thats what the french did that allowed them to offer the service at 1.4 the price :pac:

nlgbbbblth

pickarooney wrote: »

I'm impressed that you managed to create two accounts with the same username Now I want to know if it means something as opposed to your cat jumping on the keyboard when you registered with boards.ie

That four-penny coffin looks kind of enticing. I can't remember the last time I slept a whole night without someone kicking me in the kidneys.

It's nlgbbbblth internet-wide. No variations.

analogue bubblebath minus vowels and a misplaced b.

Del2005

saa wrote: »

I was finding it hard to imagine how you would sleep on a rope.

You want to see some of the places I've slept with beers on board.

cloptrop

the salvation army eh??? still around today

Senna

I remember a fella falling a sleep while holding onto the straps hanging from the roof of tube trains, he was well pissed and there was no seats free. You could see he was constantly awaking when the train jolted, but he definitely was asleep in-between.

psychward

pow wow wrote: »

Quite common on convict ships in the 19th century as well as slave ships. Just how old are your 'older relatives'?!

Between 65 and 96 roughly. from the way they laugh at the concept while telling it I doubt they ever had to sleep on a rope themselves.