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The Dark Knight Rises - Pre-release Discussion [** NO SPOILERS PLEASE **]

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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    al28283 wrote: »
    I would think the shot of Bane is from the same scene in the prolgue footage where Bane has crushed Batmans cowl

    Hhm, I hadn't heard of that shot. I haven't watched the prologue but I did read a description of the "sizzle reel" at the end and it wasn't mentioned.

    All this speculation makes me glad that despite all that's been revealed of the film, intentionally or otherwise, we still don't really know that much about what's going to happen :).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Draupnir


    I really can't see an unmasking scene, or at least I really hope we don't get one. I wouldn't like that at all.

    I think what it will actually be, will be Bane hunting Batman and finding the bat cave. The cowl he breaks is from a storage case or display case, much like the one from Michael Keaton Batman. I think it just adds a lot of weight to the trailer and that's why it's in there, to create a bit of excitement.

    The big question is what order the two fights we've seen shots of go in. There is the one on the steps of the court where Batman looks pretty determined and prepared and then the one that looks to be underground with water flowing in the background. Batman looks pretty freaked in that one. So either he underestimates Bane, get's bashed and then is unhappy to meet him again later or else he is freaked the first time, get's away and returns later ready and waiting to sort Bane out.

    I cannot wait for this film.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭al28283


    Pretty sure there's an unmasking scene


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio


    al28283 wrote: »
    Pretty sure there's an unmasking scene

    I wouldn't say so. I haven't heard of a part like that in the prologue, unless your referring to the poster with the broken cowl on the ground?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭al28283


    Corholio wrote: »
    I wouldn't say so. I haven't heard of a part like that in the prologue, unless your referring to the poster with the broken cowl on the ground?

    Nope, There's a scene of Bane crushing the mask.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,915 ✭✭✭cursai


    Joekers wrote: »
    But he does have the exact same style beard that he has in BBs

    Christian Bale didn't go ahead with those beard implants. That was just Hollywood gossip.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Draupnir


    Just had a look at the HD trailer there, the bit at the end where the guys are repelling down the shaft is followed by a couple of frames of them landing in the same jail that Bruce is in with Tom Conti. So we can agree that's not the Batcave.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Draupnir


    al28283 wrote: »
    Nope, There's a scene of Bane crushing the mask.

    That's in the prologue right? From what I remember he drops a broken piece of mask, rather than crushes it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,508 ✭✭✭corcaigh07


    well, saw the prologue the way it was meant to be seen, before mi4 in imax.
    I was highly disappointed about bane's voice, couldnt understand him at all, read about lads complaining about it from youtube but never would have thought it would be that bad in a cinema with proper sound.
    Dearly hope nolan tweaks it or else it will affect my enjoyment of TDKR


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,215 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Only thing I want now before its released is the music from the prologue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭al28283


    corcaigh07 wrote: »
    well, saw the prologue the way it was meant to be seen, before mi4 in imax.
    I was highly disappointed about bane's voice, couldnt understand him at all, read about lads complaining about it from youtube but never would have thought it would be that bad in a cinema with proper sound.
    Dearly hope nolan tweaks it or else it will affect my enjoyment of TDKR

    Yea, I agree. I saw the prologue at a preview screening in the Imax and couldn't make out half of what he said. If anything the Imax was worse than some of the youtube videos because the bass and effects of the sound system were just cutting him off completely


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭bullvine


    I am expecting a superman 2 plot, Batman gets beaten in the scene from the teaser, goes away and comes back stronger with the help of Ra's Al Ghul and beats Bane on the Steps at the end....... Could it be that lame!


  • Registered Users Posts: 716 ✭✭✭phil1nj


    bullvine wrote: »
    I am expecting a superman 2 plot, Batman gets beaten in the scene from the teaser, goes away and comes back stronger with the help of Ra's Al Ghul and beats Bane on the Steps at the end....... Could it be that lame!


    When put like that the answer is yes it could. The very rough plot synopsis above has been used in many films down through the years (Superman 2, Rocky 3, Karate Kid 1 through 13 etc etc). A hero takes a licking, goes away, trains, meditates, whatever and comes back wiser and stronger to defeat their tormentor.

    The main thing to remember is that this film like any other will live or die depending on it's story. There appear to be many strands running through this final instalment of Nolan's take on the Batman story (Catwoman's role, JGL's cop character role, Banes back-story and rise, the return of the League of Shadows and Gotham being ripped asunder).

    Have faith my friend.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭bullvine


    Cheers, when you spin it like that, it makes so much sense! I really cant wait to see it, so much goin on the trailer, its so hard to see where anything fits which is a really good thing!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭Temaz


    Christopher Nolan has reportedly been asked to edit the sound mix of Tom Hardy's voice in the upcoming Dark Knight Rises.

    In the highly-anticipated Batman picture, Hardy's character Bane wears a mask, which some have complained makes his heavily-accented speech too muffled.

    http://www.digitalspy.ie/movies/news/a356885/dark-knight-rises-warner-bros-scared-to-death-about-bane-voice.html


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    I honestly don't get this, what he said in the trailer was perfectlu audible to me. Maybe it's an IMAX problem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭al28283


    I honestly don't get this, what he said in the trailer was perfectlu audible to me. Maybe it's an IMAX problem.

    he only had one line in the trailer. Quite a lot of what he said in the prologue was hard to make out


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭Rick Deckard


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    constantg wrote: »
    remote control piloting/slaving of the vehicles?

    Sorry what?
    Similar to the begining of tdk when the batmobile was on intimidate mode, remotly controlled by batman


  • Registered Users Posts: 716 ✭✭✭phil1nj


    I had no problem understanding Bane's voice either (dodgy leaky prologue footage and cam trailers included).

    According to the details listed here:

    http://www.totalfilm.com/features/50-greatest-dark-knight-rises-facts

    Nolan is not going to alter the sound mix on Hardy's voice. There's a lot of fluff in the above feature but some genuinely intesting nuggets IMHO.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    al28283 wrote: »
    he only had one line in the trailer. Quite a lot of what he said in the prologue was hard to make out

    As I said, IMAX audio can be quite deafening, add to that the fact that the scene was on a noisey airplane and over a booming soundtrack, it's understandable that it was difficult to hear him.

    I'd be willing to bet that this won't be an issue for the majority of the film.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,508 ✭✭✭corcaigh07


    phil1nj wrote: »
    I had no problem understanding Bane's voice either (dodgy leaky prologue footage and cam trailers included).

    According to the details listed here:

    http://www.totalfilm.com/features/50-greatest-dark-knight-rises-facts

    Nolan is not going to alter the sound mix on Hardy's voice. There's a lot of fluff in the above feature but some genuinely intesting nuggets IMHO.

    this is disappointing, Nolan is making a mistake here I think. I saw it on IMAX and it shouldnt be a problem, I understood everybody else in the prologue and everyone in MI4(which is a loud movie too!) just fine, only bane was inaudible.

    Its obviously a problem if many fans are bringing it up and Nolan has to actually repond about it. I'm not asking for a re-recording of Hardy's part, just tweak the sound so that he sounds less "artificial", turn his voice up a bit and reduce the noise from the plane. Needs to be done, its worse than Bale's overly strong growl voice as Batman in TDK


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭Fuzzy_Dunlop


    He said he wouldn't re record the lines again. That's not to say they won't alter the sound mix to make it more distinguishable which it seems is what Nolan has indicated they will do.


  • Registered Users Posts: 666 ✭✭✭constantg


    corcaigh07 wrote: »
    this is disappointing, Nolan is making a mistake here I think

    Nolan doesn't strike me as the kind of man to make a rookie error like this.....Perhaps it was intentional? To force massive discussion, debate, argumentation and then later release a better dubbing and have a more positive response? And a MASSIVE amount of views of it? More than there would be if it had been right first time?


    Also RE my comment on 'slaving' the batmobile and batwing (is it a plane?) earlier, perhaps the batmobile controls the plane or vice-versa by remote control and allows the batmobile to be transported in a similar fashion to the dropship from Aliens?

    Tell me this doesn't look similar to the clip from the trailer....


    Pic_0073.jpg


    dark-knight-rises-batwing-set-photo-01.jpg&w=450&h=600&ei=C0PzTonHGcTAhAeW35DHAQ&zoom=1


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,459 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Similar to the begining of tdk when the batmobile was on intimidate mode, remotly controlled by batman

    Yea I get that, I just have no idea what it has to do with my post! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭don ramo


    Temaz wrote: »
    Quote:
    Christopher Nolan has reportedly been asked to edit the sound mix of Tom Hardy's voice in the upcoming Dark Knight Rises.

    In the highly-anticipated Batman picture, Hardy's character Bane wears a mask, which some have complained makes his heavily-accented speech too muffled.




    http://www.digitalspy.ie/movies/news/a356885/dark-knight-rises-warner-bros-scared-to-death-about-bane-voice.html

    the guys wearing a mask, realistaclly he should be hard to hear, whats the problem, :confused::confused::confused::confused:


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,459 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    don ramo wrote: »
    the guys wearing a mask, realistaclly he should be hard to hear, whats the problem, :confused::confused::confused::confused:

    Realistically, it could be pretty detrimental to people's enjoyment of the movie if you can't tell what one of the main characters is saying.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,942 ✭✭✭Paleface


    don ramo wrote: »
    the guys wearing a mask, realistaclly he should be hard to hear, whats the problem, :confused::confused::confused::confused:

    Darth Vader wore a mask and you never had any problem understanding him!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭don ramo


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Realistically, it could be pretty detrimental to people's enjoyment of the movie if you can't tell what one of the main characters is saying.....
    well itll be your won fault for being noisey with your popcorn and crisps if you cant hear him,

    im warning ye all now no popcorn or crisps:D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    I can see people's problem with Hardy's voice, it is quite muffled especially with Nolan's love for background noise.

    The only reason I can see how I understood him was from seeing transcripts before seeing the footage, so I knew what he was going to say in both the prologue and the trailer.

    If it's apparently only an IMAX problem then he still needs to fix it considering how much of an advocate his is to the format.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭nicklauski


    al28283 wrote: »
    he only had one line in the trailer. Quite a lot of what he said in the prologue was hard to make out

    The copy I watched of the prologue, I could make out fairly clear. A lot easier than I could in the trailer being honest. I had to listen to the trailer about 5 times before I knew what he said :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭MJ23


    i hope Barry o Hanlon is in this movie. He was brilliant in Batman Begins.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    MJ23 wrote: »
    i hope Barry o Hanlon is in this movie. He was brilliant in Batman Begins.

    Risteard Cooper from Apres Match stole the show for me with his single line:

    "Or a nut!"

    And the pilot from the plane episode of Father Ted as the crooked judge!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    Risteard Cooper from Apres Match stole the show for me with his single line:

    "Or a nut!"

    And the pilot from the plane episode of Father Ted as the crooked judge!

    what scene is your man from apres match in ? :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    ricero wrote: »
    what scene is your man from apres match in ? :pac:

    It's just after Batman's gone on his first mission as Batman, disrupting the drug shipment at the docks, tying up Falcone and rescuing Rachel from the muggers.
    Directly after the shot of him standing on top of a skyscraper, there's a short scene with the Commissioner holding up a paper with a headline about Batman and giving out to a group of cops.

    He's among them and pops up in only one shot for a second, but it's a close-up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    And the pilot from the plane episode of Father Ted as the crooked judge!

    THAT WAS IT!!!


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,856 ✭✭✭paddy kerins


    Risteard Cooper from Apres Match stole the show for me with his single line:

    "Or a nut!"

    And the pilot from the plane episode of Father Ted as the crooked judge!

    Was that the pilot?!:eek:

    I'm gonna have to watch that again. I knew he looked familiar


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Was that the pilot?!:eek:

    I'm gonna have to watch that again. I knew he looked familiar

    Yeah, he looks a little different, I think he's slimmer in Father Ted.

    It took me a few viewings of the film to finally figure out where I knew him from.

    I don't know why Christopher Nolan fills his Batman films with Irish actors.
    It looks like we'll have Aiden Gillen in The Dark Knight Rises, as well as, possibly, Liam Neeson and Cillian Murphy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭Dewey


    Yeah, he looks a little different, I think he's slimmer in Father Ted.

    It took me a few viewings of the film to finally figure out where I knew him from.

    I don't know why Christopher Nolan fills his Batman films with Irish actors.
    It looks like we'll have Aiden Gillen in The Dark Knight Rises, as well as, possibly, Liam Neeson and Cillian Murphy.

    you could say he fills the batman films with British Actors aswell...Christian Bale, Michael Caine, Tom Hardy, Gary Oldman, Tom Wilkinson.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Was that the pilot?!:eek:

    I'm gonna have to watch that again. I knew he looked familiar

    he's the villain in Waterworld as well, not Dennis Hopper lol the one who wanted Costners boots at the beginning.


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  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,459 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Yeah, he looks a little different, I think he's slimmer in Father Ted.

    It took me a few viewings of the film to finally figure out where I knew him from.

    I don't know why Christopher Nolan fills his Batman films with Irish actors.
    It looks like we'll have Aiden Gillen in The Dark Knight Rises, as well as, possibly, Liam Neeson and Cillian Murphy.

    Another sitcom batman link, in tim burtons first batman movie the captain of red dwarf pops up as one of jokers goons in a scene (he was also in the directors cut of Aliens where it showed lv-426 before infestation)


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Dewey wrote: »
    you could say he fills the batman films with British Actors aswell...Christian Bale, Michael Caine, Tom Hardy, Gary Oldman, Tom Wilkinson.

    True, but there's a lot of well-known British actors out there, but you don't see many Fair City actors and Irish comedians in Hollywood blockbusters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    The kid that played bruce in BB looks very like the kid singing the anthem at the stadium. Whats Nolan up to....?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    Dempsey wrote: »
    The kid that played bruce in BB looks very like the kid singing the anthem at the stadium. Whats Nolan up to....?
    No he doesn't. Go to specsavers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    ricero wrote: »
    No he doesn't. Go to specsavers

    I didnt say they were the same kid. Just a coincidence that they have the same hairstyle though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Dempsey wrote: »
    I didnt say they were the same kid. Just a coincidence that they have the same hairstyle though!

    the same floppy haircut i and a million other kids had at that age, its nothing to do with BB at all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,299 ✭✭✭kdevitt


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    If it's apparently only an IMAX problem then he still needs to fix it considering how much of an advocate his is to the format.

    Was thinking that the Bane voice issue was people just moaning over nothing - but watched the prologue in IMAX last night and could barely make out a single phrase he said. Had no issues understanding him on the trailer when listening on my laptop like some others though.

    Pretty amazing all the same, I'm sure they'll get it sorted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭MJ23


    the prologue is brilliant, though bane is a bit hard to understand. Is it Tom hardy that is doing the voice?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,915 ✭✭✭cursai


    MJ23 wrote: »
    i hope Barry o Hanlon is in this movie. He was brilliant in Batman Begins.

    Wasn't Hughie phelan (Joe Hanley) in Batman begins at he scene just after the scarecrow doses Katie Holmes with the fear toxin. Correct me if I'm wrong.
    I remember because from working in a Dublin hospital yes ago he came into a+e hammered, on a busy night and demanded to skip the queue citing "do you know who I am"...####head.
    True story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,915 ✭✭✭cursai


    Anybody else notice Marion collitard wearing traditional Asian (Tibetan?) Garb from set photos. Didn't Bruce train in some Asian mountains for the league of assassins.
    Marion-Cotillard-Pictures-Shooting-Dark-Knight-Rises.jpg
    maybe its been mentioned before i dont know


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,459 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    cursai wrote: »
    Anybody else notice Marion collitard wearing traditional Asian (Tibetan?) Garb from set photos. Didn't Bruce train in some Asian mountains for the league of assassins.
    Marion-Cotillard-Pictures-Shooting-Dark-Knight-Rises.jpg
    maybe its been mentioned before i dont know

    There's a very good chance she's playing
    Talia Al Ghul, the daughter of Ra's
    .


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