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Ordering a pint

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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Benny_Cake wrote: »
    sounds like a tourist trap.

    It is. A lot of business is referred from the hotel directly across the road which does a lot of airport business.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 172 ✭✭padraig91


    you should have paid for it taken a sip then thrown it at him and said "try again!"


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,522 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    face1990 wrote: »
    It's not illegal. A business can charge whatever prices they want. The advertised price is an 'invitation to treat', i.e. they suggest that you buy it for that price.
    But the deal isn't done till you pay, at which point either you or the barman can change your offer.

    Bartering isn't part of our culture but it's the same principle at work. The advertised price isn't legally binding.

    The advertised price is indeed an invitation to treat. However if the advertised price is intentionally inaccurate then it breaks the Consumer Information Act of 1978, thus rendering it illegal. If a business has a consistent policy of not charging the advertised price then it's illegal.

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1978/en/act/pub/0001/sec0007.html#sec7


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,262 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    Cool_CM wrote: »
    I'd love to pay €5.70 for a pint, when I order one it is generally around €7.40:eek:

    Mad, move 100km north, around €3 on this side


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,790 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Hardly comparing like with like.
    Pubs are dearer than off licences and duty frees - that didn't come as a shock to you did it?
    If i was the barman and you'd come in and ordered a pint and then refused to pay for it, i'd have fúcked you out too.

    if i was a barman id understand how the punter felt being charged 5.70 for a pint of crap and expect to have the same treatment day in day out until the owner took notice on the fact that he is ripping customers off in an incredible manner.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    I never bother looking at the price lists on pub doors and I rarely go to pubs with late licences but do those pubs have 2 price lists, I.e. befor 11 and after 11 and do they have to?
    If the prices go up after 12 or whatever (perfectly legal btw) the premises is required to have 2 price lists detailing the different prices.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,522 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    conor1979 wrote: »
    I'm open to correction on this from someone who knows the law fully but the price that is advertised is the sale price and cannot be changed under any circumstances (not including the late night increase which should also be advertised). As I think was pointed out on a previous point the sale can be refused.

    If you order something that is advertised at a certain price I do believe you have "entered a contract of sale" and are liable to pay the price or face the consequences i.e you got barred!

    In legal terms, any advertisement is not construed as an offer. You make the offer when you follow up on the advertisement. They can then choose whether to accept it or not. If the advertisement is deliberately wrong though then it's breaking the law. They do not however have to sell at that price.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,956 ✭✭✭Cool_CM


    jester77 wrote: »
    Mad, move 100km north, around €3 on this side
    A proper döner, Hochdeutsch and €3 drinks are well worth the train fare!


  • Registered Users Posts: 742 ✭✭✭smodgley


    smash wrote: »
    They've just lost a pint now, they can't really just put it back in the keg. €5.70 wasn't going to kill you. You could have paid and said you'd never be back and saved yourself the hassle of getting barred.

    Anyway what was it? A pint of gold dust?

    yes they can, not supposed to but they can


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,522 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    smodgley wrote: »
    yes they can, not supposed to but they can

    How do suggest they do that?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    smodgley wrote: »
    yes they can, not supposed to but they can

    What are you on about? How can you put a pint back in a keg?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭Ledger


    If I was in your shoes OP, I would have been tempted to do the same. However I probably would have voiced my objection to the price but pay it anyway. The barman has pulled the pint, if you then refuse to pay for it he has every right to put you out in my opinion.

    But I do see where you are coming from. Pint of Lager in New Ross is about 4 euro, in Waterford (depending where you're drinking) it can vary from 3 to about 4.50.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Ppl saying OP should have asked the price before he ordered. wtf?? Who does that? Tight arses.

    By the sounds of things, tight arses are his sort of people.;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭busyliving


    5.70 for a pint of Piss...

    I can get a pint of proper beer(Paulaner, Erdinger or Leffe(Half Pint, as its supposed to be served) for under €5 in my local spot in the Limerick City and its the dearest spot in the city...

    I'd pay no more that €3 for that piss...when I can get a pint of Bav or Tuborg for €3 and it tastes pretty much the same as Coors Light or Heineken


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭Ledger


    smodgley wrote: »
    yes they can, not supposed to but they can

    Sure they can. I must be off now, there's a unicorn in my garden.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    €5.70 would nearly get ya six cans.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,189 ✭✭✭drdeadlift


    Would they sell as many pints if they asked for the money before pulling the pint?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭Ledger


    drdeadlift wrote: »
    Would they sell as many pints if they asked for the money before pulling the pint?

    If the cheapest pub around asked for money before the pint was pulled I'd walk out. That'd be a bit ignorant.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,618 ✭✭✭Feisar


    yekahS wrote: »
    What are you on about? How can you put a pint back in a keg?

    As far as I know it can't be done. It can be done with pumped ales but not with the generic set up in 99.9% of bars.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭gazzer


    Hardly comparing like with like.
    Pubs are dearer than off licences and duty frees - that didn't come as a shock to you did it?
    If i was the barman and you'd come in and ordered a pint and then refused to pay for it, i'd have fúcked you out too.

    Well maybe if more people did what the OP did the prices of pints in certain places wouldnt be as mental as they are. Fair play to you OP. €5.70 is a rediculous price for a pint.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    yekahS wrote: »
    What are you on about? How can you put a pint back in a keg?

    Hoover.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,398 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    The scary thing is, a few people are saying this pub gets very full. If this was kielys of donnybrook everyone would be going on about "typical d4 dickheads" paying that amount.

    My pet hate in pubs is ordering a shot, and getting it in one of those 25ml plastic shot glasses.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Paparazzo wrote: »
    My pet hate in pubs is ordering a shot, and getting it in one of those 25ml plastic shot glasses.

    They're shíte. You can't light a sambuca and you can't slam a tequila.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,760 ✭✭✭DaveNoCheese


    Tis good livin' in the country, €4.20 for a pint, happy days :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,833 ✭✭✭Bummer1234


    Good on you OP...€5.70 is way over the top :O
    Tis good livin' in the country, €4.20 for a pint, happy days :pac:

    Im with ya there man...€3.80 up more north for me so I could have 3 in by the time the OP's starting his 2nd!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭i71jskz5xu42pb


    Paparazzo wrote: »
    The scary thing is, a few people are saying this pub gets very full.

    Ivy House charges very different prices depending on the night. Mid week when the St. Pat's crowd are about, prices are low, weekends when there is more grown ups about the prices are higher. The student nights are usually wedged, I've even seen a queue at the door. They also do music (Friday nights I think) which draws a crowd.

    That said, 5.70 is crazy, dead right to walk.


  • Registered Users Posts: 192 ✭✭conor1979


    Feisar wrote: »
    As far as I know it can't be done. It can be done with pumped ales but not with the generic set up in 99.9% of bars.

    When a keg is finished you can let the gas out and put beer back in but I am pretty sure you cant sell it again because of the pressure/gas/something along those lines!

    Lots of pubs I knew got a bad reputation because people thought they were gettin other peoples slops!

    This used to be done years ago. Kegs would be filed with the slops from the end of the night and sent back to the brewery for a refund (not sure if a full or partial refund).
    This practice stopped happening when the Revenue copped on that they were losing money on all the kegs getting sent back!

    Not sure how comman place it is now though!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    conor1979 wrote: »
    Feisar wrote: »
    As far as I know it can't be done. It can be done with pumped ales but not with the generic set up in 99.9% of bars.

    When a keg is finished you can let the gas out and put beer back in but I am pretty sure you cant sell it again because of the pressure/gas/something along those lines!

    Lots of pubs I knew got a bad reputation because people thought they were gettin other peoples slops!

    This used to be done years ago. Kegs would be filed with the slops from the end of the night and sent back to the brewery for a refund (not sure if a full or partial refund).
    This practice stopped happening when the Revenue copped on that they were losing money on all the kegs getting sent back!

    Not sure how comman place it is now though!

    The slops from the trays under the taps getting used was always a big rumour around my area when I was growing up. Another urban myth then?


  • Registered Users Posts: 742 ✭✭✭smodgley


    How do suggest they do that?

    its very easy to do, just degas the keg, open the center part, pour in said pint, replace center part re gas and away you go


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  • Registered Users Posts: 486 ✭✭jackie1974


    Ive worked in bars for the past twenty years and cannot recall ever being asked for prices. €5.70 is a ridiculous charge for a pint. I think you did the right thing in refusing to pay for it, you can be sure it was recycled for the next customer that asked for coors and they probably had the privilege of paying 5.70 for a flat pint.


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