Alert over 'bad batch' of ecstasy as three need hospital treatment

Davei141 · 15-12-2011 09:13PM

partyatmygaff wrote: »

And where do your friends get the drugs? Unless you know who actually made the drug and how it was made it's best to assume the worst.

Actually, the vast majority of drugs can kill you. Even legal "tame" OTC drugs like Paracetamol can kill you or at the very least kill your liver. All drugs are potential poisons and as such should be treated with caution. Some with more caution than others.

Jesus, partyatmygaff is preaching again. You love a good drug thread don't you?

partyatmygaff · 15-12-2011 09:16PM

Eh... I rarely post in threads about drugs on AH. No idea where you're getting the "preaching" thing from.

Captain McDuck · 15-12-2011 09:17PM

Does anyone know where i could pick up some of this bad batch??

mikom · 15-12-2011 09:17PM

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Actually, the vast majority of drugs can kill you. Even legal "tame" OTC drugs like Paracetamol can kill you or at the very least kill your liver. All drugs are potential poisons and as such should be treated with caution. Some with more caution than others.

*Looks at posters sig*

Michael Jackson R.I.P. The Man The Myth The Legend

*lols*

El Weirdo · 15-12-2011 09:20PM

k.p.h wrote: »

That's not even funny, I had a bit of a run in with these things called snowballs a couple of years ago. Ended up in that exact hospital...!

Before anyone asks, no it was nothing serious, the bastards just put acid into pills, kept taking them because I was getting nothing off them, fcuk I was tripping ballz ..

I remember them. Mental altogether.

That was one crazy wedding.

Pace2008 · 15-12-2011 09:22PM

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Actually, the vast majority of drugs can kill you. Even legal "tame" OTC drugs like Paracetamol can kill you or at the very least kill your liver. All drugs are potential poisons and as such should be treated with caution. Some with more caution than others.

Not the vast majority - all of them. Toxicology 101: anything can be fatally toxic if taken in a sufficiently high dose. I wouldn't regard paracetamol as "tame," is it quite toxic at relatively low doses, particularly when other hepatotoxic drugs like alcohol are involved. It has certainly caused more fatal overdoses than MDMA, anyway. FWIW some drugs have have such high LD50s that they can't really be considered poisons in any realistic sense.

Now, what has that got to do with my post exactly? My point was that the vast majority of pills do not contain substances like PMA which are incredibly dangerous at any dose. If pills like this are found then users should be alerted. I would not go near a stamp that is known to contain dangerous adulterants.

Funnily enough, it seems the authorities are alerting us to a particularly good batch in this instance. Cheers lads.

partyatmygaff · 15-12-2011 09:24PM

mikom wrote: »

*Looks at posters sig*

Michael Jackson R.I.P. The Man The Myth The Legend

*lols*

Yes because medical malpractice is just so funny.

AnonoBoy · 15-12-2011 09:28PM

k.p.h wrote: »

That's not even funny, I had a bit of a run in with these things called snowballs a couple of years ago. Ended up in that exact hospital...!

Before anyone asks, no it was nothing serious, the bastards just put acid into pills, kept taking them because I was getting nothing off them, fcuk I was tripping ballz ..

Cheap acid! Noobie dealers. :rolleyes:

anhedonia · 15-12-2011 09:30PM

This particular batch of pills does not contain MDMA.

These pills contain 2CB, a similar phenethylamine invented by Alexander Shulgin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2CB

The effects of 2CB are very similar to a combination of MDMA and LSD.

The visuals are strong, so if some newbs thought they were taking straight MDMA they could freak out when they begin tripping balls.

2CB. Great fun altogether.

Pace2008 · 15-12-2011 09:32PM

Yeah, that would explain the severe hallucinations alright.

Rounded off last Stephen's day with a spot of 2C-B...might become a yearly tradition.

Pace2008 · 15-12-2011 09:33PM

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Yes because medical malpractice is just so funny.

A friend of mine had bone marrow cancer in his left leg and his oncologist recommended amputating the leg. After getting a confirming second opinion, my friend agrees to surgery.
When he wakes up, he discovers they've taken the wrong leg. He still has to undergo the amputation which the doctor volunteers to do for free.
After the second surgery, my friend sues but in this world where the most money wins, he loses his suit.
The judge ruled he didn't have a leg to stand on

Jev/N · 15-12-2011 09:34PM

k.p.h wrote: »

That's not even funny, I had a bit of a run in with these things called snowballs a couple of years ago. Ended up in that exact hospital...!

Before anyone asks, no it was nothing serious, the bastards just put acid into pills, kept taking them because I was getting nothing off them, fcuk I was tripping ballz ..

I'm not by any means debating what you took and that a snowball was in fact what it was but, as far as I'm aware, the idea that either acid or heroin are added to pills is a massive urban myth that hasn't been proven.

Snowballs contained DOB (http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dob/) and although they created similar effects to acid, the pills did not contain LSD

Other chemicals like 2-CB, PMA, DXM etc etc.

k.p.h · 15-12-2011 09:49PM

Jev/N wrote: »

I'm not by any means debating what you took and that a snowball was in fact what it was but, as far as I'm aware, the idea that either acid or heroin are added to pills is a massive urban myth that hasn't been proven.

Snowballs contained DOB (http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dob/) and although they created similar effects to acid, the pills did not contain LSD

Other chemicals like 2-CB, PMA, DXM etc etc.

Oh yeah no problem, I just used the term "acid" to refer to some sort of hallucinogen or whatever the proper term is. I actually never even looked it up, them fcukers were vicious, don't even like talking about them to be honest.

I was warped for 48hrs after them, It's rally really scary tripping like that especially when it's unplanned. The ambulance was the worse bit :rolleyes:

Actually had a similar experience with that drug that was in the party pills in the early days, got banned soon after, can't remember the name (three letters with a Z ..?) Not getting the desired effect, way too many , two days of misery.

Anyway my days of experimentation are over. I failed, badly, It hurt .:pac:

Pace2008 · 15-12-2011 09:51PM

k.p.h wrote: »

I was warped for 48hrs after them, It's rally really scary tripping like that especially when it's unplanned. The ambulance was the worse bit :rolleyes:

That's one of those DOx chemicals for sure. Acid lasts nowhere near 48 hours; closer to 12.

Ganymede Glow · 15-12-2011 10:43PM

Snowball e's *shudders*

I remember them all to well although I wasnt as bad as some people but I did not feel right for a week or two after. Never forget that night morning in my room I actually convinced myself that I had actually lost my mind and the men in the white suits were coming. Not a good buzz at all

Needless to say that was the beginning of the end of my 'e' phase.

fran oconnor · 15-12-2011 10:51PM

Good to see that kids are back on the happys, maybe the return of dance music is here..

Haelium · 15-12-2011 10:55PM

Perhaps there is another batch of mephadrone over being sold as MDMA, happens quite often to my knowledge, but by all means go crazy and mock the article, because you obviously know more than the people who work in a hospital and have studied medicine for years.

Ganymede Glow · 15-12-2011 11:03PM

Haelium wrote: »

Perhaps there is another batch of mephadrone over being sold as MDMA, happens quite often to my knowledge, but by all means go crazy and mock the article, because you obviously know more than the people who work in a hospital and have studied medicine for years.

Jaw clenching, teeth grinding and stomach cramps are the effects of ecstasy and anyone could tell you that. Hardly a bad batch is it?

Statistician · 15-12-2011 11:05PM

k.p.h wrote: »

Actually had a similar experience with that drug that was in the party pills in the early days, got banned soon after, can't remember the name (three letters with a Z ..?) Not getting the desired effect, way too many , two days of misery.

Anyway my days of experimentation are over. I failed, badly, It hurt .:pac:

BZP.

Last (non-alcohol) drugs I ever took. I didn't even drink for a year after that experience.

3 days of wanting to piss and vomit without being able to piss and vomit. Couldn't sleep either. Three days of hell.
Like having a hangover from hell without the enjoyment.

Can't believe people take that for fun.

fran oconnor · 15-12-2011 11:07PM

Sounds like a good batch of Garrys to me. The flutes on x factor should be popping these babys..

Pace2008 · 15-12-2011 11:12PM

Haelium wrote: »

Perhaps there is another batch of mephadrone over being sold as MDMA, happens quite often to my knowledge, but by all means go crazy and mock the article, because you obviously know more than the people who work in a hospital and have studied medicine for years.

Mephedrone (with an "e," I'm sorry but it must be the most misspelt compound in existence) is a straight-up stimulant. Wouldn't cause any hallucinations at all, let alone severe ones.

Haelium · 15-12-2011 11:14PM

Ganymede Glow wrote: »

Jaw clenching, teeth grinding and stomach cramps are the effects of ecstasy and anyone could tell you that. Hardly a bad batch is it?

Hallucinations aren't an effect. And generally people who take e don't end up in hospital because of it, even if it's their first time.

Haelium · 15-12-2011 11:19PM

Pace2008 wrote: »

Mephedrone (with an "e," I'm sorry but it must be the most misspelt compound in existence) is a straight-up stimulant. Wouldn't cause any hallucinations at all, let alone severe ones.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mephadrone#Side_effects

"The ECMDDA reported that mephedrone can cause various unintended side effects including: poor concentration, teeth grinding, problems focusing visually, poor short-term memory loss, hallucinations, delusions, erratic behaviour and dilated pupils."

Randy Anders · 15-12-2011 11:19PM

Jesus that article is apalling

Would they not think about naming the stamp on the pill so people can be informed and avoid them no? The mind boggles

The pill sounds like 2cb imo(mild hallucinogenic), Ecstasy doesn't cause hallucinations and although stomach cramps can occur, they are very rare

Randy Anders · 15-12-2011 11:23PM

Haelium wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mephadrone#Side_effects

"The ECMDDA reported that mephedrone can cause various unintended side effects including: poor concentration, teeth grinding, problems focusing visually, poor short-term memory loss, hallucinations, delusions, erratic behaviour and dilated pupils."

The only way mephedrone can cause hallucinations is when the user suffers from a lack of sleep. The drug itself does not half hallucinogenic properties

Aoifey! · 15-12-2011 11:24PM

Three of them were suffering from severe stomach cramps, hallucinations, jaw-clenching and teeth-grinding after saying they had taken ecstasy.

Bare the stomach cramps I can't see much wrong here.

Pace2008 · 15-12-2011 11:26PM

Haelium wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mephadrone#Side_effects

"The ECMDDA reported that mephedrone can cause various unintended side effects including: poor concentration, teeth grinding, problems focusing visually, poor short-term memory loss, hallucinations, delusions, erratic behaviour and dilated pupils."

If you're caining it for days on end, maybe. As is the case with any stimulant. Hallucinations are simply not a normal effect of the drug, take it from someone who went through more of the stuff than was probably good for him.

An oral dose of mephedrone is not going to cause severe hallucinations in three patients. It's more likely it's a hallucinogen like 2C-B was the cause.

pragmatic1 · 15-12-2011 11:37PM

People like this ruin drugs for everyone else.

connexion · 15-12-2011 11:38PM

http://www.independent.ie/national-n...d-2964929.html

'Tests showed that people with these symptoms had taken a drug containing a combination of chemicals. These included MDMA, more commonly known as ecstasy, plus the psychedelic compound MDA and the amphetamine-type stimulant MDEA.'

Prof Barry said that the tablets are white in colour with the letter 'B' inside a circle.

these ... http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=27968#comments

They sound like really good old school combo pills ... sounds like they just took too many and panicked (high dose MDA is very trippy) and got sore jaws. Then called the doctor.

Result of this article ... I'm going looking for these

Logical Fallacy · 15-12-2011 11:44PM

Pace2008 wrote: »

If you're caining it for days on end, maybe. As is the case with any stimulant. Hallucinations are simply not a normal effect of the drug, take it from someone who went through more of the stuff than was probably good for him.

An oral dose of mephedrone is not going to cause severe hallucinations in three patients. It's more likely it's a hallucinogen like 2C-B was the cause.

Okay. Here is my take on Meph and hallucinations....from my own experience.

One night i took Meph and took too much, I just wasn't paying attention and capped up more than i should have. After the drop I was sitting around and listening to some tunes, started to buzz quite nicely and then a very mild and faint judder came upon the world. Over time it increased until it was quite dramatic.

Someone else who was with me that night experienced exactly the same thing. We were sligthly confused by the whole deal until i copped the Meph had resulted in a very, very fast twitching of the eyelid. As time based the movement of the eyelid became greater and greater and more exaggerated, so i could understand if someone thought they were actually hallucinating.

It wore off about 20mins after the peak and only occured that one time on Meph because i measured it out incorrectly.

Alert over 'bad batch' of ecstasy as three need hospital treatment

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