Foreigners who come here and don't learn English

MisterEpicurus · 15-12-2011 07:05PM #1

I need to rant a little about this.

I live with 3 Spanish people, and about 2 of them don't bother to learn English. They live here and wander along to other houses full of other Spanish people who, similarly, don't learn the language. At night, these same people will spend hours on Skype/MSN chatting with family and friends in Spain.

In other words, WHY ARE THEY HERE!!!!

I can't accuse everyone of this, because I've met some people who have made great efforts and reached a very high level, and bother to get work.

It's p****ing me off at this stage to be honest.

[I'm not against Spanish people, but just the mentality of coming here and not learning]

Snakeblood · 15-12-2011 07:06PM

MisterEpicurus wrote: »

I need to rant a little about this.

I live with 3 Spanish people, and about 2 of them don't bother to learn English. They live here and wander along to other houses full of other Spanish people who, similarly, don't learn the language. At night, these same people will spend hours on Skype/MSN chatting with family and friends in Spain.

In other words, WHY ARE THEY HERE!!!!

I can't accuse everyone of this, because I've met some people who have made great efforts and reached a very high level, and bother to get work.

It's p****ing me off at this stage to be honest.

[I'm not against Spanish people, but just the mentality of coming here and not learning]

For money? Jesus.

MisterEpicurus · 15-12-2011 07:07PM

Snakeblood wrote: »

For money? Jesus.

They're not looking for work though. They hate speaking English and speak as little as possible.

mfceiling · 15-12-2011 07:07PM

Same issue was raised years ago in australia.
Chinese would arrive and make no attempt to learn/speak English and go straight to Chinatown to work and live.
Aussie government were concerned that it encouraged ghettoes and that some of the less intelligent could be exploited by rogue employers.

FatherLen · 15-12-2011 07:08PM

maybe they're here for the weather.

Where To · 15-12-2011 07:08PM

I agree.

No one should travel anywhere unless they are fluent in the language(s) of the country/region they are travelling to.

Those who do not comply should be incinerated

nicechick! · 15-12-2011 07:09PM

awwwww!! Are you feeling left out?

Snakeblood · 15-12-2011 07:09PM

MisterEpicurus wrote: »

They're not looking for work though. They hate speaking English and speak as little as possible.

So what exactly are they doing? Just sitting in the house during the day?

Doom · 15-12-2011 07:09PM

They're here for the rain......I think they might be sending it home, feckers:cool:

AnonoBoy · 15-12-2011 07:10PM

I know those lads. They can speak perfect English, they just pretend they can't so they don't have to converse with you.

Soz. LOL. etc.

MisterEpicurus · 15-12-2011 07:12PM

nicechick! wrote: »

awwwww!! Are you feeling left out?

Not at all, even if they were fluent, I probably wouldn't like them.
The other chap is sound, so no, I don't cry at night over this.

MisterEpicurus · 15-12-2011 07:13PM

Snakeblood wrote: »

So what exactly are they doing? Just sitting in the house during the day?

Mostly sitting around with the laptop watching Spanish videos/movies etc. Then cooking while listening to Spanish music, and then maybe visit their Spanish friends, and finally come home spending the night on MSN/Skype.
Occasionally going to Centra where they don't need to speak any English at all.

murraykil · 15-12-2011 07:14PM

MisterEpicurus wrote: »

I live with 3 Spanish people

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHj4rU2OIoU

moco · 15-12-2011 07:15PM

MisterEpicurus wrote: »

I need to rant a little about this.

I live with 3 Spanish people, and about 2 of them don't bother to learn English. They live here and wander along to other houses full of other Spanish people who, similarly, don't learn the language. At night, these same people will spend hours on Skype/MSN chatting with family and friends in Spain.

In other words, WHY ARE THEY HERE!!!!

I can't accuse everyone of this, because I've met some people who have made great efforts and reached a very high level, and bother to get work.

It's p****ing me off at this stage to be honest.

[I'm not against Spanish people, but just the mentality of coming here and not learning]

maybe they're here because they heard how friendly and welcoming the Irish are.

TheZohanS · 15-12-2011 07:15PM

MisterEpicurus wrote: »

[I'm not against Spanish people, but just the mentality of coming here and not learning]

I'm not racist, but....

Yakult · 15-12-2011 07:16PM

How are they affording to live here if they dont work?

Nodin · 15-12-2011 07:16PM

MisterEpicurus wrote: »

..........

[I'm not against Spanish people, but just the mentality of coming here and not learning]

I'll take the wild guess that these are young students who are doing what young students have a tendency to do.

mattjack · 15-12-2011 07:17PM

Que ? Mister Fawlty I no understand..

ejmaztec · 15-12-2011 07:18PM

MisterEpicurus wrote: »

Mostly sitting around with the laptop watching Spanish videos/movies etc. Then cooking while listening to Spanish music, and then maybe visit their Spanish friends, and finally come home spending the night on MSN/Skype.
Occasionally going to Centra where they don't need to speak any English at all.

Here you go gringo.

sgb · 15-12-2011 07:18PM

They came to Ireland, perhaps they are learning Irish and speaking to each other in Irish and you can't understand them

Temptamperu · 15-12-2011 07:19PM

Do you speak Irish OP, considering your in Ireland and all shouldnt you speak the native tongue?

DannyKing · 15-12-2011 07:21PM

Move out. Let them do what they want. I don't see many irish travellers living in vietnam or similar places for 6 months + learning the language.

7Sins · 15-12-2011 07:21PM

Those God damn immingants, don't even know the language good :pac:

MisterEpicurus · 15-12-2011 07:21PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

Here you go gringo.

I can speak Spanish, but I refuse to speak it with them because at the start of the year, they told me to speak English as they really want to learn it.

MisterEpicurus · 15-12-2011 07:22PM

Temptamperu wrote: »

Do you speak Irish OP, considering your in Ireland and all shouldnt you speak the native tongue?

Yes - Irish, Spanish, Portuguese, and German

Tonto86 · 15-12-2011 07:22PM

I agree with OP. If you come to live in a foreign country you should make an effort to integrate and contribute to society.

cloud493 · 15-12-2011 07:23PM

I'm so sorry. He's from Barcelona.

carfiosaoorl · 15-12-2011 07:23PM

If they can get by without learning english then why should they? I dont understand why people find it offensive that some foreign people dont want to learn english. Does it really matter to you

Antomus Prime · 15-12-2011 07:24PM

This kinda bothers me too, i dont lose any sleep over it now but I think if you're gonna move to a country then you should at least try and get some sort of grasp on the language spoken in that country. It does raise the question that if theyre not working, not studying and all they do is socialise with other Spaniards then why are they here? And are they just well off people or are they on social welfare?

If I was moving to a country that english wasnt the main language then I would defo try learn the language.

And in response to the comment above about Irish... I am fluent in Irish myself and I love the language but I dont see how that question is valid here as it's not the primary language here nor is it a necessity to communicate in this country, its heritage.

Stripey Cat · 15-12-2011 07:25PM

Tonto86 wrote: »

I agree with OP. If you come to live in a foreign country you should make an effort to integrate and contribute to society.

Why is that?

ejmaztec · 15-12-2011 07:26PM

MisterEpicurus wrote: »

I can speak Spanish, but I refuse to speak it with them because at the start of the year, they told me to speak English as they really want to learn it.

You should start with the basics e.g try "fuck off", and see how that grabs them.

Foreigners who come here and don't learn English

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