Foreigners who come here and don't learn English

MisterEpicurus

I need to rant a little about this.

I live with 3 Spanish people, and about 2 of them don't bother to learn English. They live here and wander along to other houses full of other Spanish people who, similarly, don't learn the language. At night, these same people will spend hours on Skype/MSN chatting with family and friends in Spain.

In other words, WHY ARE THEY HERE!!!!

I can't accuse everyone of this, because I've met some people who have made great efforts and reached a very high level, and bother to get work.

It's p****ing me off at this stage to be honest.

[I'm not against Spanish people, but just the mentality of coming here and not learning]

Snakeblood

MisterEpicurus wrote: »

I need to rant a little about this.

I live with 3 Spanish people, and about 2 of them don't bother to learn English. They live here and wander along to other houses full of other Spanish people who, similarly, don't learn the language. At night, these same people will spend hours on Skype/MSN chatting with family and friends in Spain.

In other words, WHY ARE THEY HERE!!!!

I can't accuse everyone of this, because I've met some people who have made great efforts and reached a very high level, and bother to get work.

It's p****ing me off at this stage to be honest.

[I'm not against Spanish people, but just the mentality of coming here and not learning]

For money? Jesus.

MisterEpicurus

Snakeblood wrote: »

For money? Jesus.

They're not looking for work though. They hate speaking English and speak as little as possible.

mfceiling

Same issue was raised years ago in australia.
Chinese would arrive and make no attempt to learn/speak English and go straight to Chinatown to work and live.
Aussie government were concerned that it encouraged ghettoes and that some of the less intelligent could be exploited by rogue employers.

FatherLen

maybe they're here for the weather.

Where To

I agree.

No one should travel anywhere unless they are fluent in the language(s) of the country/region they are travelling to.

Those who do not comply should be incinerated

nicechick!

awwwww!! Are you feeling left out?

Snakeblood

MisterEpicurus wrote: »

They're not looking for work though. They hate speaking English and speak as little as possible.

So what exactly are they doing? Just sitting in the house during the day?

Doom

They're here for the rain......I think they might be sending it home, feckers:cool:

AnonoBoy

I know those lads. They can speak perfect English, they just pretend they can't so they don't have to converse with you.

Soz. LOL. etc.

MisterEpicurus

nicechick! wrote: »

awwwww!! Are you feeling left out?

Not at all, even if they were fluent, I probably wouldn't like them.
The other chap is sound, so no, I don't cry at night over this.

MisterEpicurus

Snakeblood wrote: »

So what exactly are they doing? Just sitting in the house during the day?

Mostly sitting around with the laptop watching Spanish videos/movies etc. Then cooking while listening to Spanish music, and then maybe visit their Spanish friends, and finally come home spending the night on MSN/Skype.
Occasionally going to Centra where they don't need to speak any English at all.

murraykil

MisterEpicurus wrote: »

I live with 3 Spanish people

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHj4rU2OIoU

moco

MisterEpicurus wrote: »

I need to rant a little about this.

I live with 3 Spanish people, and about 2 of them don't bother to learn English. They live here and wander along to other houses full of other Spanish people who, similarly, don't learn the language. At night, these same people will spend hours on Skype/MSN chatting with family and friends in Spain.

In other words, WHY ARE THEY HERE!!!!

I can't accuse everyone of this, because I've met some people who have made great efforts and reached a very high level, and bother to get work.

It's p****ing me off at this stage to be honest.

[I'm not against Spanish people, but just the mentality of coming here and not learning]

maybe they're here because they heard how friendly and welcoming the Irish are.

TheZohanS

MisterEpicurus wrote: »

[I'm not against Spanish people, but just the mentality of coming here and not learning]

I'm not racist, but....

Yakult

How are they affording to live here if they dont work?

Nodin

MisterEpicurus wrote: »

..........

[I'm not against Spanish people, but just the mentality of coming here and not learning]

I'll take the wild guess that these are young students who are doing what young students have a tendency to do.

mattjack

Que ? Mister Fawlty I no understand..

ejmaztec

MisterEpicurus wrote: »

Mostly sitting around with the laptop watching Spanish videos/movies etc. Then cooking while listening to Spanish music, and then maybe visit their Spanish friends, and finally come home spending the night on MSN/Skype.
Occasionally going to Centra where they don't need to speak any English at all.

Here you go gringo.

sgb

They came to Ireland, perhaps they are learning Irish and speaking to each other in Irish and you can't understand them

Temptamperu

Do you speak Irish OP, considering your in Ireland and all shouldnt you speak the native tongue?

DannyKing

Move out. Let them do what they want. I don't see many irish travellers living in vietnam or similar places for 6 months + learning the language.

7Sins

Those God damn immingants, don't even know the language good :pac:

MisterEpicurus

ejmaztec wrote: »

Here you go gringo.

I can speak Spanish, but I refuse to speak it with them because at the start of the year, they told me to speak English as they really want to learn it.

MisterEpicurus

Temptamperu wrote: »

Do you speak Irish OP, considering your in Ireland and all shouldnt you speak the native tongue?

Yes - Irish, Spanish, Portuguese, and German

Tonto86

I agree with OP. If you come to live in a foreign country you should make an effort to integrate and contribute to society.

cloud493

I'm so sorry. He's from Barcelona.

carfiosaoorl

If they can get by without learning english then why should they? I dont understand why people find it offensive that some foreign people dont want to learn english. Does it really matter to you

Antomus Prime

This kinda bothers me too, i dont lose any sleep over it now but I think if you're gonna move to a country then you should at least try and get some sort of grasp on the language spoken in that country. It does raise the question that if theyre not working, not studying and all they do is socialise with other Spaniards then why are they here? And are they just well off people or are they on social welfare?

If I was moving to a country that english wasnt the main language then I would defo try learn the language.

And in response to the comment above about Irish... I am fluent in Irish myself and I love the language but I dont see how that question is valid here as it's not the primary language here nor is it a necessity to communicate in this country, its heritage.

Stripey Cat

Tonto86 wrote: »

I agree with OP. If you come to live in a foreign country you should make an effort to integrate and contribute to society.

Why is that?

ejmaztec

MisterEpicurus wrote: »

I can speak Spanish, but I refuse to speak it with them because at the start of the year, they told me to speak English as they really want to learn it.

You should start with the basics e.g try "fuck off", and see how that grabs them.

Raekwon

TheZohan wrote: »

I'm not racist, but....

You know it's a slow day in AH when it took a whole 15 posts before the word 'racist' made it's customary appearance.

Stripey Cat

Antomus Prime wrote: »

And in response to the comment above about Irish... I am fluent in Irish myself and I love the language but I dont see how that question is valid here as it's not the primary language here nor is it a necessity to communicate in this country, its heritage.

Many people would argue that English is a foreign language here, though.

The fact that people speak it widely doesn't make it less foreign. Many people also speak Spanish or Russian or German or whatever.

Snakeblood

I'm a racist but this seems perfectly acceptable to me.

Logical Fallacy

OP, they speak English just fine.

They just couldn't be arsed talking to you.

RichieC

Irish people complaining about Spanish peoples lack of English.. hahahahahaahaha

I've heard it all.

OP, you might consider some do know english but pretend not to so they can avoid talking to the likes of you.

Garlic Suplmnt

Chris Waddle

Antomus Prime

Stripey Cat wrote: »

Many people would argue that English is a foreign language here, though.

The fact that people speak it widely doesn't make it less foreign. Many people also speak Spanish or Russian or German or whatever.

I never said it wasnt a foreign language, everyone knows that our native language is Irish but it was phased out a long time ago, bar some areas of the country where its still as commonly used as english, and in some places more than english, but nobody can argue that in order to communicate with the natives of this country you need to speak english.

El Horseboxo

I couldn't care less whether they learn it and kinda understand why they wouldn't bother. They are so submersed in Spanish culture while here I doubt they are planning on staying here permanently. But from my own point of view I'd want to make the effort so I could understand the new society I'm in more. Plus you'll feel more included in day to day things. Not to mention it's English they'd be learning which is a major world language. It's not like they'd be learning an obscure language which has no benefit to them in the future.

Naomi00

Temptamperu wrote: »

Do you speak Irish OP, considering your in Ireland and all shouldnt you speak the native tongue?

MisterEpicurus wrote: »

Yes - Irish, Spanish, Portuguese, and German

Win.



Yeah it's a waste of time to live in a country and not attempt to speak the language especially English.

Just speak to them normally but put 'O' at the end of every word.

E.G.- "Anyoneo likeo a drinkeo in the pubio tonightio"



Oh wait that's Italian..


Sorry OP I cant help ya..

MisterEpicurus

RichieC wrote: »

Irish people complaining about Spanish peoples lack of English.. hahahahahaahaha

I've heard it all.

OP, you might consider some do know english but pretend not to so they can avoid talking to the likes of you.

I'm not complaining of their lack of English, rather lack of effort in doing so.

"Likes of you" - You don't know anything about me, so refrain from trolling and insults please.

getz

when i used to sail into barcelona on merchant ships,the only foreign words i needed was quonta costa jig e jig,

Mr Benevolent

MisterEpicurus wrote: »

Yes - Irish, Spanish, Portuguese, and German

Irish isn't a native tongue, it's a minority language.

Naomi00

Confab wrote: »

Irish isn't a native tongue, it's a minority language.

Aww someone's got a chip on their shoulder..

Antomus Prime

Edz87 wrote: »

Just speak to them normally but put 'O' at the end of every word.

E.G.- "Anyoneo likeo a drinkeo in the pubio tonightio"



Oh wait that's Italian..


Sorry OP I cant help ya..

Im pretty sure Dr. Bob Kelso would disagree with you there!! :pac:

Confab wrote: »

Irish isn't a native tongue, it's a minority language.

Irish is the Native language of Ireland, regardless of whether or not it's the primary language

cocoshovel

where do i go from here wrote: »

No one should travel anywhere unless they are fluent in the language(s) of the country/region they are travelling to.

I travelled to Poland for 2 weeks during the summer, should I have spent months becoming fluent in the language before I went? Such a silly post.

learn the language if you're going to live there for an extended period of time. Is that what you meant?

Antomus Prime

cocoshovel wrote: »

I travelled to Poland for 2 weeks during the summer, should I have spent months becoming fluent in the language before I went? Such a silly post.

learn the language if you're going to live there for an extended period of time. Is that what you meant?

Im pretty sure he was being sarcastic:rolleyes:

lar203

so why are there here ??? there not working so how are they getting money to stay

cocoshovel

Antomus Prime wrote: »

Im pretty sure he was being sarcastic:rolleyes:

Worst sarcasm ever!

aujopimur

They probably learned Irish, but when they got here they could'nt find anyone to converse with.