We are lazy

Eric Cartman · 25-11-2011 11:23PM

Saila wrote: »

ok, so there is no possibity to tax what they bring to the surface, just a lump some compensation type payment. really they literally have bought a gold mine for buttons

no, that part hasnt been finalised / can be revisited , theyve taken nothing up thus far , whatever was sold from here they would have to pay tax in Ireland anyway and the cost of labour and everything else will go to here, their preliminary figures put the government receiving over €3 billion. considering the field is worth less than double that then Id say were doing well

lotmc · 25-11-2011 11:34PM

Agree. We should find and keep our own oil.

Oh wait, we cant afford the hundreds of millions it costs to look for it. And all of the previous efforts to find oil, with one or two exceptions, have been unsuccessful.

Better idea -get foreigners to come here, spend hundreds of millions looking for oil, have a laugh at them if they dont find any, but if the fec*ers find any of our oil, then they should fec* off and leave us with our oil.

Now isnt that a great plan. Guaranteed to sort out our problems. Well done to all who object to foreigners exploiting all of our oil.

Get real.

Elmer Blooker · 25-11-2011 11:43PM

Fishooks12 wrote: »

Shell to Sea is the greatest load of manure going

They're hated by locals in Belmullet (which funding from shell has turned into one of the most beautiful villages in Ireland)

I see ........... no doubt these "locals" are and always have been staunch Fianna Failers !

tacofries · 25-11-2011 11:44PM

lotmc wrote: »

Agree. We should find and keep our own oil.

Oh wait, we cant afford the hundreds of millions it costs to look for it. And all of the previous efforts to find oil, with one or two exceptions, have been unsuccessful.

Better idea -get foreigners to come here, spend hundreds of millions looking for oil, have a laugh at them if they dont find any, but if the fec*ers find any of our oil, then they should fec* off and leave us with our oil.

Now isnt that a great plan. Guaranteed to sort out our problems. Well done to all who object to foreigners exploiting all of our oil.

Get real.

i think a better solution would be to keep at least 50% of profits made on any oil found, like what norway do. still leaves a lot of profit for the companies.

Temptamperu · 26-11-2011 12:18AM

tacofries wrote: »

i think a better solution would be to keep at least 50% of profits made on any oil found, like what norway do. still leaves a lot of profit for the companies.

Norway takes 90% in taxes.

Fishooks12 · 26-11-2011 12:55AM

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

I see ........... no doubt these "locals" are and always have been staunch Fianna Failers !

What would that have anything to do with anything?

Well considering I used to live in Belmullet I think I have a decent idea of what the general consensus towards the protesters is and the vast majority of locals welcome the money shell have put into the village

44leto · 26-11-2011 01:26AM

The video is the greatest load of uninformed bullsith. Norwegian oil is shallow oil, that means the rigs almost touch the floor. Our POTENTIAL oil which we are not sure it even exists is deep oil a much more difficult and expensive process at drilling, now if you are up on current affairs we are broke, Now our government could risk 1 to 5 billion in finding then developing a potential field.

Or we could get on our hands and knees and pray and hope Shell come in with their expertise and they take the risk.

But they aren't, only 15 licences were applied to drill in the Celtic sea, over a 100 was applied to drill in the North Sea.

AnonoBoy · 26-11-2011 01:28AM

44leto wrote: »

The video is the greatest load of uninformed bullsith.

Of course it is but the guys who put this sort of stuff together aren't actually interested in facts. They're more interested in seeming like they have the answers and then they complain that nobody is listening to them (or everybody is too lazy to do what they think is the solution).

44leto · 26-11-2011 01:32AM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Of course it is but the guys who put this sort of stuff together aren't actually interested in facts. They're more interested in seeming like they have the answers and then they complain that nobody is listening to them (or everybody is too lazy to do what they think is the solution).

But its complete rubbish.

Really Irish oil is a pipe dream, forget about it, it will not get us out of trouble. And even if they do find a field, it wont start pumping it to the open market till 10 years or more.

AnonoBoy · 26-11-2011 02:11AM

44leto wrote: »

But its complete rubbish.

Really Irish oil is a pipe dream, forget about it, it will not get us out of trouble. And even if they do find a field, it wont start pumping it to the open market till 10 years or more.

But why let facts stand in the way of a good ol' rant that shows how 'anti-establishment' you are?

The guy that made the video knows f*ck all about anything to be honest. He's full of bullsh*t talk about peace and love and blah blah.

Duggy747 · 26-11-2011 02:29AM

I like how OP starts a thread calling people lazy with a video with completely arseway "facts".

Lazy is believing everything that video told you and not having the initiative to check the wealth of information and facts for yourself.

My name is URL · 26-11-2011 03:01AM

Gotta love these threads.. most people become oil prospectors with an insider's lowdown. The rest are smelly hippies with ties to an unrelated protest group.

It couldn't go much better for those who actually stand to gain. Divide & conquer and all that jazz. These proposals were first put forward in the 90's, and since then the value of what will eventually become a salable commodity will have increased by ~500%.

But no.. our glorious overlords weren't shortsighted when they agreed to terms without taking into consideration the volatility of various markets or improvements in technologies. And shur it's too late to do anything about it now.

There's pretty much no energy-independece in Ireland, and there never will be as long as people see the short-selling of the little amount of resources we do have as a good thing.

Einhard · 26-11-2011 04:18AM

tacofries wrote: »

norwegians are right. the majority of us including me are lazy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76VOnzXQMsU&feature=player_embedded

How many actually went on protest about this,.

anyone that says there's no point are the lazy ones that wont admit they're lazy,

No, you're fupping lazy because you allow some random Youtube video to inform you of the situation without getting up off your arse and making your own mind up based on the facts. If you had bothered with even a cursory glance over the facts you'd see that comparing Ireland to Norway in such a manner is like comparing Ireland to China in terms of population. We can't adopt the Norwegian approach because we simply don't have Norway's abundance of easily exploitable resources. Why can't people understand that?

Caoimhín · 26-11-2011 04:30AM

Mmmm, an how would we spend this mythical money?

Me thinks it would be spent on political party cronies, hangers on an lazy ****ers.

Caoimhín · 26-11-2011 04:45AM

MyKeyG wrote: »

The only shell to sea video I'm interested in is the one that shows the guards smacking the hippies round the place.

Arent you great.

MyKeyG · 26-11-2011 04:47AM

Caoimhín wrote: »

Arent you great.

If you say so. Welcome to after hours!

pragmatic1 · 26-11-2011 04:53AM

I think we can riot with the best of them. Just need that spark.

MyKeyG · 26-11-2011 09:06AM

olivia432 wrote: »

really this post is awesome

That's the third time you posted this after one of my posts on three separate boards. Reported for trolling.

Freddie59 · 26-11-2011 10:43AM

Fishooks12 wrote: »

Shell to Sea is the greatest load of manure going

They're hated by locals in Belmullet (which funding from shell has turned into one of the most beautiful villages in Ireland)

Indeed. I watched that documentary on Channel 4 (The Pipe). Showed a core of them for what they are.

Freddie59 · 26-11-2011 10:48AM

Caoimhín wrote: »

Arent you great.

He sure is. Well said Mykey!:D

tacofries · 26-11-2011 02:50PM

Duggy747 wrote: »

I like how OP starts a thread calling people lazy with a video with completely arseway "facts".

Lazy is believing everything that video told you and not having the initiative to check the wealth of information and facts for yourself.

well u see dugg i did but the amount of different facts about potential wealth of the fields left me with no indication of whether the vid was right or wrong. lazy has touched a string with you obviously.

Norwayviking · 15-12-2011 04:47PM

Temptamperu wrote: »

Norway takes 90% in taxes.

Dont think so:rolleyes:

http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2007/07/norwegian-petro.html

al28283 · 15-12-2011 04:52PM

Anyone who disagrees with me is an idiot who won't admit to it

Voodoo_rasher · 15-12-2011 04:57PM

Fishooks12 wrote: »

Shell to Sea is the greatest load of manure going

They're hated by locals in Belmullet (which funding from shell has turned into one of the most beautiful villages in Ireland)

think it fair to say us Irish have always been 'suckers' for easy (Shell) money. Its never been difficult to buy-off Paddy. Easy money or cheap booze. Just ask anyone who has ever conquered us.

Snakeblood · 15-12-2011 04:58PM

tacofries wrote: »

norwegians are right. the majority of us including me are lazy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76VOnzXQMsU&feature=player_embedded

How many actually went on protest about this,.

anyone that says there's no point are the lazy ones that wont admit they're lazy,

Please let this be about gays in the military or something.

superstoner90 · 21-12-2011 06:14PM

OP THIS THREAD IS...

MungBean · 21-12-2011 06:18PM

superstoner90 wrote: »

OP THIS THREAD IS...

Took you a month to come up with that ?

superstoner90 · 21-12-2011 06:22PM

MungBean wrote: »

Took you a month to come up with that ?

no i posted in this thread a while ago and then i was on the thread again today and i came to the conclusion that "This thread is stupid"

We are lazy

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