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UCD track to close!!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 574 ✭✭✭SWL


    Todays Independent



    UCD has apologised for the way it handled the shock closure of its historic Belfield track last week and has put together a task-force to deliver a replacement as quickly as possible.
    Athletes were confused and furious when diggers suddenly moved in last week, with no forewarning whatsoever given to the many clubs, schools and athletes, including several Olympians, who used the facility.
    "We had a report that indicated we were taking a (safety) chance every day we left it open, but we did not communicate this very well to our students and other athletics people and I apologise openly for that," said UCD's director of sport Brian Mullins.
    One of the most vehement critics of the sudden closure was Senator Eamonn Coghlan and he is among those whom UCD have now enlisted to serve on a task-force to fast-track a replacement facility on the other side of the Belfield campus.
    disrepair
    Mullins admitted that the track was allowed to go into disrepair because the campus layout has changed dramatically in recent years and all of the university's newer sports facilities have deliberately been grouped at the Clonskeagh end of the extensive grounds.
    "Apart from a few remaining soccer pitches the track was the last remaining outpost and it was decided not to invest in repairing hard-earned money into something that was going to be shifted in due course," he said.
    UCD has had planning permission for a track near its sports centre at Clonskeagh since 2009, but those plans were then hit by the recession.
    Mullins said: "We're quite positive now that we will get commitment for the funding soon and will move to deliver a replacement track as quickly as possible."
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    HMMMMMMM.

    Why did it take all this fuss to get Brian off his arse and sort the funding for the track?

    How long did he sit on the report putting people at risk?

    What about the field sports Brian?

    Bull****

    Well done – power to the people. A good example to prove protesting in Ireland is not a waste of time. We must all keep applying the pressure and use Emanon Coughlan to get media attention.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 63 ✭✭Duke Fame


    Mullins told UCD AC he hadn't seen the report on Monday, that UCD Buildings and Services took the decision to close the track, and that he was powerless in the whole process. . . big dichotomy between that and the content of that radio interview. . .

    There is a good tread on this on the UCD Board that is worth a look. Reading both treads it looks like the new lake at Eng building will be built- installed soon, UCD sports (Brian Mullins) are told to get rid off the track and field ASAP by the college admin. The best way to do this play the health and safety card. The report seems to have only one recommendation but no one has seen it for this to be confirmed. So the track and field get decommissioned immediately, it will be left sit for a month or two until the fuss dies down then the cars start to appear on the track maybe around graduation time as an overflow car park. Job done.

    As I said before this is an act of vandalism and cynical.




    Good call missus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭ocnoc


    Does anyone know if a list of tracks in ireland exist?

    I found this list for the UK
    http://www.runtrackdir.com/tracklist.asp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭footing


    ocnoc wrote: »
    Does anyone know if a list of tracks in ireland exist?

    I found this list for the UK
    http://www.runtrackdir.com/tracklist.asp
    Who'd have thought Belfast had seven tracks?? What state are they in?
    Aircraft Park Track
    Mary Peters Track
    Hammer Complex Track
    Odyssey Arena
    Paisley Park Track
    St. Mary's Christian Brothers Grammar School Track
    Trench House Track


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,762 ✭✭✭✭ecoli


    footing wrote: »
    Who'd have thought Belfast had seven tracks?? What state are they in?
    Aircraft Park Track
    Mary Peters Track
    Hammer Complex Track
    Odyssey Arena
    Paisley Park Track
    St. Mary's Christian Brothers Grammar School Track
    Trench House Track

    This is being redeveloped in the very near future as far as I know. you also have Antrim Forum nearby which is in good nick

    Here is just a few off the top of my head

    In terms of Dublin 5 Tartan/ Mondo tracks
    ALSAA
    Santry
    Donore (300m)
    Tallaght
    Irishtown

    Meath:
    Clarmont stadium

    Wicklow:
    Greystones

    Sligo:
    IT

    Cork:
    CIT

    Limerick:
    UL

    Kilkenny:
    KCH track

    Tipperary:
    Nenagh (Indoor)

    Donegal:
    Finn Valley track

    Offaly:
    Tullamore

    Westmeath:
    Athlone

    Kerry:
    Castleisland


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭RoyMcC


    Nothing in the whole of Cork outside the city? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,762 ✭✭✭✭ecoli


    RoyMcC wrote: »
    Nothing in the whole of Cork outside the city? :confused:

    Probably is this is just a very rough list from ones I know of or have raced on (Dont leave the big smoke to often:D). I am sure people will come along and fill in ones I missed (any excuse to have a pop at a moderator these days:rolleyes:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Anyone read this in the Irish indo the other day!
    By far the most ambitious element of the campus, however, is the indoor arena which, at current construction prices, it is estimated would cost €40m. The 14,000 square metre arena would house an indoor athletics track, a sports centre (badminton, basketball, volleyball courts) and a gymnastics centre and would accommodate about 2,000 spectators.

    http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/campus-in-line-for-budget-day-boost-2953523.html

    40million, hmm not holding my breath about that coming anyday soon!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Anyone read this in the Irish indo the other day!
    http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/campus-in-line-for-budget-day-boost-2953523.html

    40million, hmm not holding my breath about that coming anyday soon!

    Yeah, the budget is expected to include 4 million for the project which will go towards developing
    pitches
    :rolleyes:
    The rest sounds like a hastily rewritten press release.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭footing


    RayCun wrote: »
    Yeah, the budget is expected to include 4 million for the project which will go towards developing
    pitches
    :rolleyes:
    The rest sounds like a hastily rewritten press release.
    The thing no-one in Govt mentions is that UL/NCTC already had the bones of a perfectly adequate sports academy before talk started of "Sports Campus Ireland" out there in Bertieland - 50m pool, tartan track, indoor bastetball area, gyms, football pitches, student village etc, etc. As far as I know, Limerick is still where most of our swimmers are based.
    Result of the political shenanigans? Pat Duffy, one of the best sports admin people we ever had, left for a big job in the UK.
    There is no need for Sports Campus Ireland.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭a_non_a_mouse


    RoyMcC wrote: »
    Nothing in the whole of Cork outside the city? :confused:

    City has CIT and the Mardyke/UCC (which is undergoing development still I believe)
    A few tartan sprint strips elsewhere (mostly schools) and I think I heard of a 200m track somewhere in the east of the county...maybe Youghal?

    but yeah....largest County size wise and one of the larger counties based on recent AAI numbers and its not very well serviced by tartan tracks...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 367 ✭✭electrictrad


    You did well, ecoli. . .there are a couple more 400m tracks I think. . .

    Dublin
    ALSAA
    Santry
    Donore (300m)
    Tallaght
    Irishtown

    Meath:
    Clarmont stadium

    Wicklow:
    Greystones

    Sligo:
    IT

    Cork:
    CIT
    UCC Mardyke

    Limerick:
    UL

    Kilkenny:
    KCH track

    Tipperary:
    Nenagh (Indoor)
    Templemore

    Donegal:
    Finn Valley track

    Offaly:
    Tullamore

    Westmeath:
    Athlone

    Kerry:
    Castleisland

    Clare
    Ennis


    Galway
    NUIG


    Waterford
    RSC Track


    Cavan
    Shercock AC Track


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,612 ✭✭✭gerard65


    http://www.goal.ie/GOAL_Mile/146

    Christmas GOAL mile goes to Leopardstown race course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,410 ✭✭✭ger664


    There is 2 in Ennis :):)

    Dublin
    ALSAA
    Santry
    Donore (300m)
    Tallaght
    Irishtown

    Meath:
    Clarmont stadium

    Wicklow:
    Greystones

    Sligo:
    IT

    Cork:
    CIT
    UCC Mardyke

    Limerick:
    UL

    Kilkenny:
    KCH track

    Tipperary:
    Nenagh (Indoor)
    Templemore

    Donegal:
    Finn Valley track

    Offaly:
    Tullamore

    Westmeath:
    Athlone

    Kerry:
    Castleisland

    Clare
    Ennis: Lees Road & Fairgreen


    Galway
    NUIG


    Waterford
    RSC Track


    Cavan
    Shercock AC Track


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 44 badtinegirl


    As you will be aware the UCD running track was closed due to health and safety concerns raised by an expert assessment of the surface and surrounds, and exacerbated by the onset of winter conditions. Since its development, the master plan for the Belfield campus has envisaged provision of a new running track in the Sports Precinct. Preparatory work started on this objective five years ago. A suitable site was identified and we quickly moved on to development of track design specifications, culminating in the granting of full planning permission in 2009. Initial enabling works have been undertaken and the site is ready to be developed once funding is secured. With the completion in Spring 2012 of the Student Learning, Leisure and Recreation Centre, approximately €66m will have been invested in UCD sports and recreational facilities in recent years. A new running track in the Sports Precinct is a priority for UCD in the context of the further development of our sports and recreation infrastructure. I have established a task force to spearhead the search for funding



    Report of the UCD President


    I had a walk up to where the new track is going these enabling works seem to consist of turning the space into a carpark first.

    Almost a full house with the bull**** bingo, he just missed blue sky thinking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭footing


    As you will be aware the UCD running track was closed due to health and safety concerns raised by an expert assessment of the surface and surrounds, and exacerbated by the onset of winter conditions. Since its development, the master plan for the Belfield campus has envisaged provision of a new running track in the Sports Precinct. Preparatory work started on this objective five years ago. A suitable site was identified and we quickly moved on to development of track design specifications, culminating in the granting of full planning permission in 2009. Initial enabling works have been undertaken and the site is ready to be developed once funding is secured. With the completion in Spring 2012 of the Student Learning, Leisure and Recreation Centre, approximately €66m will have been invested in UCD sports and recreational facilities in recent years. A new running track in the Sports Precinct is a priority for UCD in the context of the further development of our sports and recreation infrastructure. I have established a task force to spearhead the search for funding



    Report of the UCD President


    I had a walk up to where the new track is going these enabling works seem to consist of turning the space into a carpark first.

    Almost a full house with the bull**** bingo, he just missed blue sky thinking
    That's why he gets paid €600,000 a year and has us tax payers fork out €3m for a refurb to his house.
    Why do we let them get away with it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭smunchkins


    Has anyone seen the safety report yet?

    At least they now have a committee to get funding. One half of me goes "yuck" as committees are the children of Satan and bureaucracy and the bane of getting anything done on time, but then the other half wonders what else they can do, its not like they have a secret stash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭footing


    smunchkins wrote: »
    Has anyone seen the safety report yet?

    At least they now have a committee to get funding. One half of me goes "yuck" as committees are the children of Satan and bureaucracy and the bane of getting anything done on time, but then the other half wonders what else they can do, its not like they have a secret stash.

    They could re-open the track that already exists...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭kingQuez


    The health + safety sign flapping in the gusty wind yesterday was more of a concern to me as I passed by during my run than the slippy surface ever was :)

    I know it's not a substitute, but for recreational stuff the gravel trail around the campus is actually quite nice. Would be cool if they marked distances along it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭macinalli


    kingQuez wrote: »
    Would be cool if they marked distances along it.

    Someone's done this on the path opposite the sports centre beside the GAA pitches. The start line is near the church and it seems to have markers at 50 metre intervals!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 44 badtinegirl


    Looks like the ex-UCD track will host the Ball this year.
    Not safe to train on but safe enough for 2000 drunk students to
    dance on. :mad:

    Hows that task force working out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭ergo


    any update on the track situation?

    I parked over near the track today - it's basically almost fully intact aside from some trenches dug across it approx every 80 metres to prevent a decent run - and obviously it's been fenced off - couldn't take much to get it back to functional level -

    those responsible for digging it up should pay for that...

    could be waiting forever for a new track :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BobMac104


    I dont live near it or have ever used it, but the whole issue is just so rotten.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Any news on this? I ran by it the other day, and the trenches cut across the track have been filled in in the inside lanes, with the material used for the trail outside. And the barriers that were across the whole track had been moved away from the inside lanes.
    Doesn't look like an amateur job, but it isn't a proper track surface either :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,762 ✭✭✭✭ecoli


    RayCun wrote: »
    Any news on this? I ran by it the other day, and the trenches cut across the track have been filled in in the inside lanes, with the material used for the trail outside. And the barriers that were across the whole track had been moved away from the inside lanes.
    Doesn't look like an amateur job, but it isn't a proper track surface either :confused:

    Was thinking about this the other week. I wonder if anyone has kept on to get reports back from the "task force"

    As far as I know that sand/trail surface has been there a while. I can only guess that it had to be put in for health and safety reasons to allow them go ahead with the UCD Ball back in May

    (Yes I do realise the irony of 5000 drunken students not being subject to health and safety which was the reason behind closing the track in the first place :rolleyes:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,567 ✭✭✭delta_bravo


    I saw what looked like a steamroller close to the track last week. Hopefully something is happening to restore it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,762 ✭✭✭✭ecoli


    I saw what looked like a steamroller close to the track last week. Hopefully something is happening to restore it

    No talk of restoration. The plan is to relocate it across campus (up near the teh new sports centre) pending funding (aka being fobbed off for a while until the attention dies down)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭Barty


    I saw what looked like a steamroller close to the track last week. Hopefully something is happening to restore it

    They were resurfacing the road around the front gate of UCD last Saturday week, this is probably what the steamroller was for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭ergo


    Are people actually running on the UCD track at all these days..?

    I was down near there on the bike last month - it is accessible - looks like you'd need to use the outside lanes - I couldn't see what it's like the whole way around though and, as people mentioned, some gravel or grit filling in the previously dug trenches....is it usable..?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour


    ergo wrote: »
    Are people actually running on the UCD track at all these days..?

    I was down near there on the bike last month - it is accessible - looks like you'd need to use the outside lanes - I couldn't see what it's like the whole way around though and, as people mentioned, some gravel or grit filling in the previously dug trenches....is it usable..?

    I had a walk around it when I was home. In no way is it usable for any runner with the tiniest aspirations.


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