Psychedelic drugs?

Deus Ex Machina · 09-12-2011 02:56PM #1

Some people swear that psychedelics can provide access to a higher plan of consciousness, and that they can be used to gain a greater understanding of the nature of the universe and our existence. They say that the incredible visions one can experience while under the influence of things like psilocybin mushrooms, LSD, DMT etc are not products of the mind itself, instead claiming that these are glimpses at something beyond the world we inhabit.

On the other end of the spectrum are those who say that psychedelic drugs are dangerous, they can cause mental illness and that the visions are nothing more than hallucinations, devoid of any of the higher meanings which some users apply to them.

What are your thoughts on the merit of psychedelic experiences, have you ever experimented with them or know others who have and what do you think of their current legal status?

Logical Fallacy · 09-12-2011 02:58PM

They are fun, but they don't turn Pluto into Plato.

Guill · 09-12-2011 03:01PM

Great fun, i discovered the meaning of life, and forgot it again, and discovered the meaning of life, and forgot it then, and so on for about 8 hours.

My friend beside me thought someone was out to kill him and freaked out about his life being not real for 12 hours.

Same drug, same dose, different effect.

Captain McDuck · 09-12-2011 03:01PM

Its all good and well until you get a bad trip.

I haven't taken acid since my last bad trip. I was so freaked out I shat myself. Not an over zealous fart either... I mean I fully and completely shat in my pants while sitting in a chair. I was too afraid to get up off the chair and I was in a room full of people..... I can laugh about it now but it was not at all funny at the time I can assure you.

bodhrandude · 09-12-2011 03:04PM

Turn off your mind, relax and float down stream.
This is not dying, this is not dying.

orourkeda · 09-12-2011 03:04PM

bleedin' junkies

M5 · 09-12-2011 03:05PM

you may feel like your on a higher plane but your actually a blathering idiot

still fun though

bassey · 09-12-2011 03:16PM

I take acid occasionally and have never had a bad trip. It's great fun to just lose your mind for a few hours and have a laugh. Makes music and some films a lot better!

Oranage2 · 09-12-2011 03:18PM

took them and enjoyed them but the come down was something else the next day.

Thought my hands went the size of those novetly hands at football matches.
Walked the streets and the trams bkes and cars were making sweet music.
Was in a macdonalds and was liiking a picture and thought I was in the picture.
Friend got paranoid so had to go back to the hostel and turned off all the lights and seen him sleep under his bed.

dr.bollocko · 09-12-2011 03:19PM

TFU
http://dearjesus.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/naked-lunch1.jpg

Celly Smunt · 09-12-2011 03:22PM

They're great fun but things can go bad aswell,A friend of mine took too much lsd one night walked for hours from tallaght and got knocked down by a car in Bray.He was grand but he was saying he just kept following his old dog (dead).

I had a bad trip at a warped tour in michigan,scariest experience i've ever had.

John Doe1 · 09-12-2011 03:31PM

All i can say is that it can produce damn good music but on the other side of the coin it can cause a Syd barrett situation

Snowie · 09-12-2011 03:31PM

Deus Ex Machina wrote: »

Some people swear that psychedelics can provide access to a higher plan of consciousness, and that they can be used to gain a greater understanding of the nature of the universe and our existence. They say that the incredible visions one can experience while under the influence of things like psilocybin mushrooms, LSD, DMT etc are not products of the mind itself, instead claiming that these are glimpses at something beyond the world we inhabit.

On the other end of the spectrum are those who say that psychedelic drugs are dangerous, they can cause mental illness and that the visions are nothing more than hallucinations, devoid of any of the higher meanings which some users apply to them.

What are your thoughts on the merit of psychedelic experiences, have you ever experimented with them or know others who have and what do you think of their current legal status?

1rst time i tuck a trip it was card of the mezzanine baby in massive attack i think.

2nd time were micro dots

3rd time I don't even no what they were

All I know is I wouldn't take lsd with any one I didn't trust,,

and that my mp3 players fully chaged with all my favorite music, on it..

tho apprently I have a cool walk when I'm of my brackets... and why why why

are my hands always dirty

I had a good time

bleg · 09-12-2011 03:34PM

I don't care what people do. Just don't start giving me ****e about being on a "completely different level of consciousness, man." You're not, you're just ****ing high.

09-12-2011 03:34PM

never tried them, never been interested in them
if anyone else wants to do them, off you go

rather meditate or something

anhedonia · 09-12-2011 03:38PM

DMT is just about the wildest thing Ive ever experienced.
Super intense and super short-acting, lasts for about 5 mins then its over and you're back to bassline completely normal.
But those 5 minutes, jesus, into hyperspace chatting with machine elves. Laws of physics cease to exist.

A very special chemical indeed, but extremely rare in Ireland.

Snowie · 09-12-2011 03:42PM

bleg wrote: »

I don't care what people do. Just don't start giving me ****e about being on a "completely different level of consciousness, man." You're not, you're just ****ing high.

Drippy hippyness.. :pac:

Personaly speaking my experiences are mine and there not to share some people claim enlightenment others claim bull **** the only thing i can claim is that I was in the middle of marly park it was raining daft punk were playing
is that enough ?

the come down was just a pleasant except when some drunk person pissed me off :mad:

Theres a place drugs can bring you theres a place were satisfaction can bring you but there very different places and Ive enjoyed them booth equally...

mattjack · 09-12-2011 03:47PM

anhedonia wrote: »

DMT is just about the wildest thing Ive ever experienced.
Super intense and super short-acting, lasts for about 5 mins then its over and you're back to bassline completely normal.
But those 5 minutes, jesus, into hyperspace chatting with machine elves. Laws of physics cease to exist.

A very special chemical indeed, but extremely rare in Ireland.

I like the name... never want to suffer it though.

anhedonia · 09-12-2011 03:52PM

mattjack wrote: »

I like the name... never want to suffer it though.

Its more of a Tuesday thing. Seems to disappear as the week progresses.

danniemcq · 09-12-2011 03:54PM

I took salvia with a few mates before, various effects different times.

one that stands out most though was being in a tent and was in a world of my own. My mate was outside the tent trying to talk to someone else. They had no idea what he was saying as it was all garbled up and stuff they said. Me however could understand him perfectly.

He was saying that nobody could understand him so i put my hand out the tent flap and said i could!

he grabbed my hand and suddenly both of us were a million billion miles away together on a planet and whatever he seen or experienced i did too and same with anything i seen or experienced. It was by far the most unbelievable experience i had until that point. The whole time both of us looked like we were just rolling around on the ground.

mattjack · 09-12-2011 03:54PM

anhedonia wrote: »

Its more of a Tuesday thing. Seems to disappear as the week progresses.

don,t want to know if its a Tuesday thing ......

dr.bollocko · 09-12-2011 04:05PM

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OurLadyofKnock · 09-12-2011 04:13PM

I have taken them all - including being injected with pure DMT.

Never had a bad experience. Only VERY VERY positive. But that was just me.

It depends on your personality. It is not for everyone.

--Kaiser-- · 09-12-2011 04:15PM

anhedonia wrote: »

DMT is just about the wildest thing Ive ever experienced.
Super intense and super short-acting, lasts for about 5 mins then its over and you're back to bassline completely normal.
But those 5 minutes, jesus, into hyperspace chatting with machine elves. Laws of physics cease to exist.

A very special chemical indeed, but extremely rare in Ireland.

And DMT is produced naturally in your pineal gland, it's what makes you dream

Edit: I am not sure if the dream thing has been proven, but your body can produce it

later12 · 09-12-2011 04:15PM

Has anyone who has taken LSD noticed that your dreams are screwed up for a time after?

After my first trip I would notice that I would wake up remembering the strangest dreams. They certainly weren't nightmares, just bizarre, sometimes a little explicit (sex, injuries featured heavily, always very much sensory in nature).

I'm not sure if I always dreamed this way, or whether it was the LSD.

I think my dreams have reverted back to normal since I haven't used anything in a while, but it's hard to compare dreams.

I would discourage anyone who is studying from using LSD at important times of their semester. I noticed that I had short term difficulty in reading textbooks and journal papers. I had no difficulty in concentrating whatever, it was purely a short term issue with reading that lasted perhaps a week.

anhedonia · 09-12-2011 04:15PM

OurLadyofKnock wrote: »

I have taken them all - including being injected with pure DMT.

Did it feel like your head was being shot out of a canon into space?

anhedonia · 09-12-2011 04:19PM

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

And DMT is produced naturally in your hypothalamus, it's what makes you dream

Yeah thats why its so short-acting, its not a foreign substance to your body so it gets metabolised really quickly.

People who have near death experiences and claim to be following the tunnel of light, are in fact experiencing a flood of tryptamines in the brain.

R P McMurphy · 09-12-2011 04:26PM

Deus Ex Machina wrote: »

Some people swear that psychedelics can provide access to a higher plan of consciousness, and that they can be used to gain a greater understanding of the nature of the universe and our existence. They say that the incredible visions one can experience while under the influence of things like psilocybin mushrooms, LSD, DMT etc are not products of the mind itself, instead claiming that these are glimpses at something beyond the world we inhabit.

On the other end of the spectrum are those who say that psychedelic drugs are dangerous, they can cause mental illness and that the visions are nothing more than hallucinations, devoid of any of the higher meanings which some users apply to them.

What are your thoughts on the merit of psychedelic experiences, have you ever experimented with them or know others who have and what do you think of their current legal status?

If someone wanted a truely strange experience a person could consume copious quantities of iboga. It is difficult to describe the effects in subject predicative terms as you are transported backwards and forwards in time and into other peoples thoughts. Not for the faint hearted and like ayahuasca is not a recreational drug

dr.bollocko · 09-12-2011 04:26PM

anhedonia wrote: »

Yeah thats why its so short-acting, its not a foreign substance to your body so it gets metabolised really quickly.

People who have near death experiences and claim to be following the tunnel of light, are in fact experiencing a flood of tryptamines in the brain.

Yeah I heard that.
Kinda depressing it is then used to prove the existence of God and heaven and all that crap.

R P McMurphy · 09-12-2011 04:28PM

anhedonia wrote: »

Yeah thats why its so short-acting, its not a foreign substance to your body so it gets metabolised really quickly.

People who have near death experiences and claim to be following the tunnel of light, are in fact experiencing a flood of tryptamines in the brain.

That is taking it in its refined state. If you ingest it in its natural state it can last up to 15 hours and make you very ill (as in puking your guts up on an ongoing basis)

Kasabian · 09-12-2011 04:30PM

Warning- Psychedelic Drugs can lead to bad stuff too.

You cannot fly.
You can not get away with trying to drown your friend because he expressed a curiosity as to what it would be like to drown.
You must never drive while tripping.

Psychedelic drugs?

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