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PC Gaming and Console Gaming

  • 04-12-2011 4:12pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭


    Is there anything a console can do better than a PC? I'm just wondering!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭sink


    Is there anything a console can do better than a PC? I'm just wondering!

    I have never seen a PC do split screen multilayer well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Gets popcorn, awaits a flame ridden thread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Is there anything a console can do better than a PC? I'm just wondering!

    You can put any game in and know it will work.

    PC, you install it, optional for consoles, then get the graphics settings right for quality and speed. Then the possibility of driver issues and updating them incase of any graphical effect glitches and errors.

    That would be the only advantage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,924 ✭✭✭✭RolandIRL


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,709 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Politically correct gaming is overrated.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    PC, you install it, optional for consoles,

    If Santa is bringing you a PS3 for xmas your gonna be disappointed :)

    The games have updates too, which take their time to download from Sony

    Besides, consoles ARE pc's today, albeit in fancy cases.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 80,755 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    Community mod support


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    if we will try to make it atleast some how seriuos:

    1. Its awesome just to drop on your couch, put your legs on the table and play with just controller in your hands.
    2. Parties, its always fun to have a MK or TEKKEN deathmatch after you had few drinks with lads. Even better, when you pin your Misses/GFs against friends Misses/GFs! what a cat fight to watch!
    3. No need to worry much about hardware, though PC gaming came to a point wheres 5 years old Gaming machine can still run any game on better settings then any console.


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    EnterNow wrote: »
    Besides, consoles ARE pc's today, albeit in fancy cases.

    Except a different architecture, PS3 as an example, try put an MS OS on it. Impossible.

    Consoles are designed for GPU intensive purposes, as a Server Mobo is designed for reliability.

    Yes, they are computers, though designed explicitly for the purpose at hand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭Twilightning


    NoDrama wrote: »
    Yes, they are computers, though designed explicitly for the purpose at hand.

    Designed for the purpose of gaming and still manage to come last compared to a decent PC.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,986 ✭✭✭Spazdarn


    Designed for the purpose of gaming and still manage to come last compared to a decent PC.

    Well the consoles are about 6-7 years old now, so they're holding up relatively well considering.

    Pc gaming is great for solo or online play, but it's no good for bringing the lads round and drinking a few cans kinda gaming!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    EnterNow wrote: »
    If Santa is bringing you a PS3 for xmas your gonna be disappointed :)

    The games have updates too, which take their time to download from Sony

    Besides, consoles ARE pc's today, albeit in fancy cases.

    I have a PS3, 360 and PC.

    I have been a console gamer since I was 7 and a PC gamer since I was 13.

    I know all too well the intimate details. But generally speaking my point still stands.

    If you have any current gen console and it's offline only you stick in any game you want and it works, simple as. No updates needed. Yes console games have problems but by and large they work.

    Some PC games won't run out of the box if you have a DVD drive the security software does not like for example. All the Starfore marlarky with Lockon. That was a pain.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Is there anything a console can do better than a PC? I'm just wondering!

    How about a supercomputer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,268 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Consoles are cheaper. You can get an xbox 360 for about €200 but to get a PC that could play games like Skyrim, BF3 etc would cost you a lot more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


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    **** it, it's a Sunday afternoon, I'll cover both possibilities...
    Is there anything a console can do better than a PC? I'm just wondering!
    • They can make PC gamers whine more.
    • They can be a platform which is less prone to piracy.
    • They can be a platform which can generate more sales for the average multi-platform release.

    Oh wait, you want a serious response? Then I'd primarily agree with what ShadowHearth said above.

    With regards to the coming home and putting your feet up with a controller bit which may elicit a response of "you can do that with the PC too". Having something like this in your sitting room filled with a bunch of noisy, heat generating gear isn't exactly practical for the majority of people. Nevermind the need for a keyboard and mouse, wireless or otherwise, lying around with which to start the game up.

    If your only idea of "social" gaming is playing with someone over the internet then you're missing the point.

    Consoles are also, at the most basic level, easier to use. Current example, I'm playing Battlefield 3 on the PC. When I first installed it I was getting constant CTDs in-game and almost always between rounds, like many other people online. The solution? Disable the Origin overlay in-game, underclock my SCC edition EVGA GPU and install the latest BETA drivers from nVidia. Only one example I know, but the simple fact is, gaming on the PC requires some technical knowledge that a lot of people simply aren't willing to learn, so for them the console is a fantastic device. You pop the disc in, you play. A patch comes out, you're online, the game picks up on it, downloads it for you and you're good to go again. Simples.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    NoDrama wrote: »
    Except a different architecture, PS3 as an example, try put an MS OS on it. Impossible.

    Linux runs nicely on them, nobody said MS = PC ;)

    The thread has no one answer, my own thoughts would be:

    As mentioned, consoles generally have that pick up n' play appeal, which is good for having a laugh with mates etc. They have an ease of use, generally you just turn them on, pop in the game & play away. They're cheap & affordable also...good bang for buck ratio.

    Pc's on the other hand, have more power so the games look a lot better. The games library is decades old at this point, there's a vast choice to play with. Modding community is far more involved. Single player experience for me is generally better, & I'm a bit of a keyboard & mouse fan for fps titles. You can also use usb joypads if you wish. Basically everything is catered for.

    Both have advantages & benefits, disadvantages & hurdles.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Trevor451


    gizmo wrote: »
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    **** it, it's a Sunday afternoon, I'll cover both possibilities...


    • They can make PC gamers whine more.
    • They can be a platform which is less prone to piracy.
    • They can be a platform which can generate more sales for the average multi-platform release.

    Oh wait, you want a serious response? Then I'd primarily agree with what ShadowHearth said above.

    With regards to the coming home and putting your feet up with a controller bit which may elicit a response of "you can do that with the PC too". Having something like this in your sitting room filled with a bunch of noisy, heat generating gear isn't exactly practical for the majority of people. Nevermind the need for a keyboard and mouse, wireless or otherwise, lying around with which to start the game up.

    If your only idea of "social" gaming is playing with someone over the internet then you're missing the point.

    Consoles are also, at the most basic level, easier to use. Current example, I'm playing Battlefield 3 on the PC. When I first installed it I was getting constant CTDs in-game and almost always between rounds, like many other people online. The solution? Disable the Origin overlay in-game, underclock my SCC edition EVGA GPU and install the latest BETA drivers from nVidia. Only one example I know, but the simple fact is, gaming on the PC requires some technical knowledge that a lot of people simply aren't willing to learn, so for them the console is a fantastic device. You pop the disc in, you play. A patch comes out, you're online, the game picks up on it, downloads it for you and you're good to go again. Simples.

    My pc (when gaming) actually produces less noise than my 360 and while it does probably does produce more heat that is not necessarily a bad thing during the winter months :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,551 ✭✭✭✭Skerries


    It really comes down to a preference thing

    Consoles are great for social gaming with friends and great for just firing up and having a quick game in your living room
    as said there is a reliability factor over PC gaming with automatic updates to correct problems
    but this is starting to become a non-issue on pc with products like Steam with auto update and a central location to play games
    cost comparisons: gaming PC's are more expensive to buy but can now be made on parts sites for a lot less than suppliers like Dell, a decent gaming rig can be bought for about 500-600 euro which is the cost of a newly released console
    Games are more expensive to buy initially on console than PC by about €15 and can be bought later in Steam and other download sites for a fraction of what they were previously whereas console games tend to hold their price more.
    Consoles don't need upgrading like PC's though and have at least a 6 year life span or more considering the current gen
    Games like FPS's,RPG and strategy are definitely more suited to the K+M approach whereas consoles are more geared toward action, driving and sports games

    so it really comes down to horses for courses and which suits you best

    I have a PS3, Wii and high end gaming PC and I prefer the PC as the games I like are better played on it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Sisko


    Sink got it pretty much in post 2. The only thing consoles can do better than PC is offline multiplayer on the one machine.

    Lan parties are amazing and all, but if you've a group of mates wanting to play some multiplayer and one gaming machine, console wins.

    Of course you could if you wanted to, hook up a PC to a widescreen TV in the sitting room and hook up bluetooth/wireless control pads + mouse and keyboard but that's just a lot of effort really.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 439 ✭✭mrm


    EnterNow wrote: »
    Gets popcorn, awaits a flame ridden thread

    Really? A console does those activities better. Never knew that!

    OP, why do you want to an answer to this query? Any purpose other than thinly veiled trolling? Shadowhearth, gizmo and Enternow have responded well, it would be nice to hear if you have a response to the posts so far. For me personally I like the press and play aspect of consoles and the comfort position of playing from the couch with controller but, as a person who is not a graphics whore, I would love if some of the pc exclusive games were available on the console, most particularly Witcher 2 and Stalker: SOC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    mrm wrote: »
    Really? A console does those activities better. Never knew that!

    OP, why do you want to an answer to this query? Any purpose other than thinly veiled trolling? Shadowhearth, gizmo and Enternow have responded well, it would be nice to hear if you have a response to the posts so far. For me personally I like the press and play aspect of consoles and the comfort position of playing from the couch with controller but, as a person who is not a graphics whore, I would love if some of the pc exclusive games were available on the console, most particularly Witcher 2 and Stalker: SOC.
    The Witcher 2 is coming to the 360 next year and while the current STALKER games aren't due to be ported to consoles, the next iteration in the series will be released on multiple platforms. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 439 ✭✭mrm


    Damn double post!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    gizmo wrote: »
    The Witcher 2 is coming to the 360 next year and while the current STALKER games aren't due to be ported to consoles, the next iteration in the series will be released on multiple platforms. :)

    just gotta hope the stalker series isn't completely ****ed over to account for consoles ****ty controllers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Sisko


    Dunno why people are expecting a flame war here. He asked if there was anything at all a console can do better than a PC. This is a fair question.

    He didn't ask which is better in general. Which ever platform you prefer surely everyone can pick one thing the other can do better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭Twilightning


    just gotta hope the stalker series isn't completely ****ed over to account for consoles ****ty controllers

    It'll be Crysis 2 all over again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,247 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    PCs will never, EVER look as cool as consoles.

    megadrive5.jpg

    panasonicq.jpg

    neogeo.jpg

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    Versus -

    Yawn.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭Hercule


    I just wanna say that regardless of what anyone says in this thread you are all great people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,304 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    sink wrote: »
    I have never seen a PC do split screen multilayer well.
    Why would you want/need to?

    example, try put an MS OS on it. Impossible.[/QUOTE]
    What is MS OS? Is that some sort of nix? Pretty sure Fedora can run on a PS3... :pac:

    =-=

    Agree with gizmo's post.

    It also depends what you'll be using it for.

    Gaming only, get a console.

    Gaming, image manipulation, internet, music, etc, get a PC.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,086 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    the_syco wrote: »

    ...

    It also depends what you'll be using it for.

    Gaming only, get a console.

    Gaming, image manipulation, internet, music, etc, get a PC.

    +

    One Tv in the appartment and a soaps obsessed other half, get a PC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    marco_polo wrote: »
    +

    One Tv in the appartment and a soaps obsessed other half, get a PC.
    Or a new other half.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭Magill


    Exclusives are by far the biggest advantage consoles have over PC's

    God of War III
    Darksouls/Demonsouls
    Metal Gear Solid 4
    Red Dead Redemption
    Uncharted 1/2/3
    Killzone 2/3
    Infamous 1/2
    Resistence 1/2/3
    Heavy Rain
    LBP 1/2
    Warhawk
    Gran Turismo
    Froza
    Halo
    Lots of beat'em'ups
    gears of war
    Zelda
    Mario Galaxy + Any other good nintendo games

    you get the point.

    Sports games like fifa/tigerwoods and racing games are much better on consoles imo. I'd rather play someone like batman/AC/Uncharted on a console than on a pc aswel but thats just me.

    Shooters/RTS's/MMO's and most RPG's are generally better on PC, but for games where theres no real difference in how the game plays or looks i think console wins my vote.

    Hoping to get myself a new gaming rig early next year, but for now my PS3 is holding up well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,026 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Magill wrote: »
    Exclusives are by far the biggest advantage consoles have over PC's
    And if they werent exclusive, what would people play them on...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,848 ✭✭✭Fnz


    Magill wrote: »
    Exclusives are by far the biggest advantage consoles have over PC's
    ....

    Sports games like fifa/tigerwoods and racing games are much better on consoles imo. I'd rather play someone like batman/AC/Uncharted on a console than on a pc aswel but thats just me.

    Shooters/RTS's/MMO's and most RPG's are generally better on PC, but for games where theres no real difference in how the game plays or looks i think console wins my vote.

    Sounds as though controller-input is what you really prefer for racing games and the like (rather than the platform).

    Remember, PC has exclusives as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    Overheal wrote: »
    And if they werent exclusive, what would people play them on...
    From that list? You wouldn't be playing the overwhelming majority of them since they're mainly either developed by first party studios, published by the platform holders or were created with their direct help.

    That's besides the point anyway, Magill the issue is not what games are available on each platform but the strengths and weaknesses of the platforms themselves.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,348 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Sports games.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,247 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    RopeDrink wrote: »
    Oh how nice it is for someone to link pictures of nice looking consoles then compare them to photo's of the most ancient PC's going... Honestly... Yes, PC's are generally bulky and the overall design/shape isn't exactly going to win technology based beauty pageants but anyone who takes their PC seriously enough for look to be a factor can sort out some impressive custom builds and designs for themselves if they so choose..

    Okay...didn't think anyone would take my post seriously.

    Most custom PC builds that focus on visuals end up coming out like a boy racer car. They're just short the spoiler on the back.

    In all seriousness though, there is very little a console can do which a PC can't. I've been using the Dolphin emulator myself a lot recently and it's absolutely brilliant.

    Still, I don't know what it is, but I still much rather do most of my gaming on a console. (Imagine playing Dark Souls on a pc? no thanks)

    FPS tends to be the only thing I go back to the PC for.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,565 ✭✭✭✭Tallon


    Is there anything a console can do better than a PC? I'm just wondering!
    Is there anything a console can do better than a PC?
    Is there anything a PC can do better than a Console?
    Is there anything a Car can do better than a Bike?
    Is there anything a Bike can do better than a Car?
    Is there anything a Cat can do better than a Dog?
    Is there anything a Dog can do better than a Cat?
    Is there anything a foot can do better than a hand?
    Is there anything a hand can do better than a foot?

    etc etc

    I'm just wondering!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    For me personally, PC is better, and I even play some games that I would usually play on console on my PC (most recently Saints Row 3 ...using my 360 pad)


    The difference for me, is I find console more casual, in the sense..

    Sitting on a couch with mates in your sitting room - vrs - being at a desk

    That's it for me personally, the comfort factor.
    (I know I could set my PC up in my sitting room by the main telly..but...I'd rather have it at my desk)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭Magill


    Overheal wrote: »
    And if they werent exclusive, what would people play them on...

    Console ? Same reason more people play almost every multiplatform game on console.
    Fnz wrote: »
    Sounds as though controller-input is what you really prefer for racing games and the like (rather than the platform).

    Remember, PC has exclusives as well.

    Controller-input is one of the reasons yes, as is how much more comfortable/easy it is to just pop on the PS3, sit on the sofa and play away. I thought thats what this thread was about ? Or are we only talking about how a game performs ? Pretty obvious that a high end PC will win this catagory no matter what the genre so whats the point of even talking about it.
    RopeDrink wrote: »
    Might be a good time to highlight the word "Emulator".

    Only recently starting using a Dolphin Emulator which Emulates Wii and Gamecube - So yes, here I am playing a "Nintendo Exclusive" copy of Super Smash Brothers Brawl on my good ole trusty PC.

    Naturally it's not like PC's can churn out Emulators for the most recent consoles (Dolphin trying to Emulate the dated GC & Wii takes quite a powerful machine, so trying to Emulate an XBox360 is obviously pretty impossible right now) but those will come in time, admittedly at a looooooong point way beyond where being able to play a game 'exclusive' to said 'old' console isn't a great feat anymore... But hey, PC's can do it... All in good time, all in good time.

    And wouldn't that be illegal ? Surely you don't condone piracy (Goes hand in hand with emulators tbh) ? A major reason why developers support for PC games is fading.
    gizmo wrote: »
    From that list? You wouldn't be playing the overwhelming majority of them since they're mainly either developed by first party studios, published by the platform holders or were created with their direct help.

    That's besides the point anyway, Magill the issue is not what games are available on each platform but the strengths and weaknesses of the platforms themselves.

    What is the point then ? Like i said, is this thread only about game performance ? Besides, i think most of those games suit the traditional consoles more than a standard PC.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭ArphaRima


    Technically and for "serious gaming": my desktop PC
    Conveniently: my iPad, iPhone, laptop and PSP.
    Socially and ergonomically(eg on my couch): my console.

    I buy games like Arkham City/GTA 4/Street Fighter/Fight Night for my console. For MW3, COD, Ruse, etc I use my PC.
    On the subway/bus etc it would be the iPad or iPhone.

    All are suited to different situations and uses. Games developed on one or other are best suited to each depending on game design. ie World of Goo on an iPad is best. MW3 is best played on a PC.
    That is how I judge and use each platform.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,304 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Magill wrote: »
    Exclusives are by far the biggest advantage consoles have over PC's
    Exclusive to the Xbox or Playstation? And then which one will you buy?
    o1s1n wrote: »
    Most custom PC builds that focus on visuals end up coming out like a boy racer car. They're just short the spoiler on the back.
    Like cars, you get some that modify the outside, some that modify the inside.
    o1s1n wrote: »
    FPS tends to be the only thing I go back to the PC for.
    Every play Command and Conquer on a playstation? It's not fun.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    I play the PC for serious bizniss. I play the console to troll people. U mad?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    Magill wrote: »
    What is the point then ? Like i said, is this thread only about game performance ? Besides, i think most of those games suit the traditional consoles more than a standard PC.
    Nah, as I said it seems to be more about the pros and cons of both platforms rather than the games on each since, technically speaking, there's no game out on consoles which also couldn't run on a PC.
    Enderman wrote: »
    I play the PC for serious bizniss. I play the console to troll people. U mad?
    serious bizniss? Coming from the mod of The Sims forum? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,247 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    the_syco wrote: »

    Like cars, you get some that modify the outside, some that modify the inside..

    I was talking about the exterior. I'm well aware people modifiy the inside. Sure I do it myself.

    Don't think I've ever thought PC components looked cool though...functional would be the main word there. I'd hardly be comparing a new motherboard or some RAM to The Fonz. The Neo Geo AES on the other hand is definitely worthy of that title.
    the_syco wrote: »
    Every play Command and Conquer on a playstation? It's not fun.

    Have you ever played Command and Conquer on a Playstation with the official Playstation mouse?

    Consoles being 'bad' for strategy and FPS generally comes down to the tools the person has to play the games. No mouse being the big one.

    However when you can use a mouse with a console, then the gap gets a bit smaller.

    I've always played Cannon Fodder on my Amiga as although I have it for my Megadrive too, you need mouse controls.

    However about a year or so ago, I picked up a Megamouse for my Megadrive. Result? The game is now really playable on that console.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,820 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Have you ever played Command and Conquer on a Playstation with the official Playstation mouse?

    In 320x240? With loads of slow down? It was horrible :'(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I think it's fair to say the PC is technically the best machine for playing games. There's nothing a console can do that a PC can't do better. I can sit on my couch with an xbox controller and play PC games on a big screen just like I can with an actual xbox.
    My last two PCs have been much, much quieter than any xbox (which is very loud I'm always shocked by the noise out of it) I use my PC has an entertainment centre, I have 5.1 surround sound, a projector and I can control it all using a remote or my phone. Windows 7 along with an SSD hard drive is also a hell of a lot quicker to start up and boot a game than any xbox.

    The PC is however more complicated and more expensive but then the pro side of anything is always that way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,917 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    The move does a great job in place of a mouse, i played RUSE and it was brilliant (the controls that is) playing lemmings at the moment and it's pretty dam good too. Really opens up the PS3 to the RTS genre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭Twilightning


    The move does a great job in place of a mouse, i played RUSE and it was brilliant (the controls that is) playing lemmings at the moment and it's pretty dam good too. Really opens up the PS3 to the RTS genre.

    Keep on trollin' bro! Casual wagglan crap has no place in the RTS genre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,551 ✭✭✭✭Skerries


    guys we're falling into the usual flame war, tone it back please


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