Man feeds live kitten to Burmese Python

Lord Trollington · 03-12-2011 06:00PM

wandatowell wrote: »

I knew we'd be greeted with comments like this.

Comments like thinking the man who posted the video is a cruel basta*d?

I live in the real world. I know that ham sandwich earlier was the result of a pig being killed somewhere. (although it was 95% water)

What the fundamental difference here is is that this lad deliberately played out this video from start to finish.

He callously picked a furry defenseless kitten as he knew it was going to get more of a reaction. He put the cat in a Christmas stocking to add to the show.

I don't know any reasonable person who doesn't find this wrong.

I don't own a cat or kittens and in fact i'm not a huge fan of them. I'm more of a dog man myself. I still find the whole filming of this quite disturbing.

kylith · 03-12-2011 06:01PM

44leto wrote: »

I am utterly opposed to anyone being allowed to own an exotic pet which is not native to the land of the "pet" owner.

Right so. No dogs, cats, birds, rabbits or fish for you. All you're allowed is either a stoat or a red deer.

doomed · 03-12-2011 06:01PM

Can people really not see the difference between videoing a sadistic act and putting it on the internet and the natural behaviour of animals in the wild?

They claim we are the most advanced species but sometimes I wonder.

Lord Trollington · 03-12-2011 06:06PM

Has anyone on here seen the actual video of this on youtube?

It wasn't me! · 03-12-2011 06:06PM

44leto wrote: »

I am utterly opposed to anyone being allowed to own an exotic pet which is not native to the land of the "pet" owner.

Like, say, cats?

harvester of sorrow · 03-12-2011 06:06PM

cassi wrote: »

Do the decent thing and link it!!

Nah....You will have more fun trawling thru all the videos trying to find it....;)

Fap fap fap!

talkinyite · 03-12-2011 06:07PM

gufnork wrote: »

why r some of u attempting to defend a sick bastard that gets his jollies from placing a little kitten in harms way purely for his own entertainment. Ultimately, those of u who r attempting to defend this arsehole need to take a good long look in the mirror and then when you've finished doing that, give yourselves a bloody good kick up the arse.

Because he shouldn't be tortured or jailed because some people think a pythons kill is less humane than an inhalant or injection. It wasn't "purely for his entertainment", snakes have to eat.

44leto · 03-12-2011 06:07PM

kylith wrote: »

Right so. No dogs, cats, birds, rabbits or fish for you. All you're allowed is either a stoat or a red deer.

Which is why I don't own any of them. Besides dogs, cats, birds, rabbits and fish are native here, just not exotic ones.

Dudess · 03-12-2011 06:08PM

kylith wrote: »

cassi wrote: »

SERIOUSLY!! Have you actually watched the video or read the article??!!

The difference and im talking in the case of the video he made not feeding in general, is that he used a PET kitten and not a wild rodent.

Do you really think that snake keepers go out and catch potentially disease-ridden wild rats? Of course they don't; they can buy live or frozen feeder rats which are bred and reared the same way as the rats people have as pets. Then they're taken out of their nice cosy terrarium, gassed and frozen.

He put the cat in a santa hat, put it on the bed where he had hidden the snake and then distracted the cat when it went into defensive mode after spotting the snake!! If you think thats the normal feeding habits of snake owners then you've just insulted alot of decent people.

He's tasteless, I won't claim otherwise, but would you be up in arms if it was a rat that he'd put on that bed? Would it be in the papers?

It had nothing to do with the snakes hunger or the amount of meat needed, he didnt for entertainment, its plain as day!

Do you have a cat? Does it catch mice and rats? Do you encourage it to do so? Are you happy when it does? Congratulations, you're a hell of a lot crueler than this guy; a snake will grab and squeeze, and the prey will be unconcious in a short period of time. The cute little pussy that everyone is so upset about would catch, toy with, maim, allow to escape, catch again, bat around the place, and generally torture any rat, mouse, bird, or squirrel that it could. Cats are a lot nastier than snakes.

Hellrazer wrote: »

Most responsible snake owners feed frozen/thawed and only frozen/thawed...idiots trying to show off feed live in order to provoke a reaction.

I don't keep snakes, so maybe someone who does can clarify, but AFAIK snakes have to be fed dead food from birth because otherwise they won't recognise it as food and just plain won't eat it.

Even if he was tight for cash the cheapest prey items start at a euro each--a large rabbit is only 4-5 euros over here so probably cheaper in the UK.

So would it have been ok if he'd wrung the cat's neck first? How is it ok to kill a rabbit and feed it to a snake but not a cat? How about the fact that he'd have to pay a fiver for a rabbit, but people give cats away for free? Maybe he's strapped for cash, or knows someone with unwanted kittens, and quick asphyxiation by a snake is better than slow drowning in a bucket.

And where do we stop? Is it cruel for people to feed live crickets to reptiles? Flies to frogs? My fish eats mosquito larvae; is that cruel?

And what the feck is all the hoo-ha about 'he put it in a Santa hat!' So fecking what! It's a red cone of fabric, you wouldn't be bitching if it was black, green or purple, so who cares if it was red? Certainly not the snake or the cat.

Animals killing and eating of their own volition - not the issue
Human luring animal into being killed and filming this for the laugh - the issue

Maybe we should draw diagrams?

nlgbbbblth · 03-12-2011 06:08PM

Lord Trollington wrote: »

Comments like thinking the man who posted the video is a cruel basta*d?

I live in the real world. I know that ham sandwich earlier was the result of a pig being killed somewhere. (although it was 95% water)

What the fundamental difference here is is that this lad deliberately played out this video from start to finish.

He callously picked a furry defenseless kitten as he knew it was going to get more of a reaction. He put the cat in a Christmas stocking to add to the show.

I don't know any reasonable person who doesn't find this wrong.

I don't own a cat or kittens and in fact i'm not a huge fan of them. I'm more of a dog man myself. I still find the whole filming of this quite disturbing.

Yes - of course it's wrong.

However why are you so keen to gloss over the python's role in this incident?

Hellrazer · 03-12-2011 06:10PM

kylith wrote: »

I don't keep snakes, so maybe someone who does can clarify, but AFAIK snakes have to be fed dead food from birth because otherwise they won't recognise it as food and just plain won't eat it.

You can change any snake over to frozen--even one thats been fed live from birth.Its harder the older the snake is but it can be done.

Lord Trollington · 03-12-2011 06:12PM

nlgbbbblth wrote: »

Yes - of course it's wrong.

However why are you so keen to gloss over the python's role in this incident?

The pythons role in the incident? Your having a focking laugh.

I'm sure he's feeling pretty ashamed of himself alright and is having a tough time sleeping a night.

talkinyite · 03-12-2011 06:12PM

what about feeding a lizard mealworms or locust? bugs have feelings too

Lord Trollington · 03-12-2011 06:15PM

talkinyite wrote: »

what about feeding a lizard mealworms or locust? bugs have feelings too

Ah here lads, we really are scraping the bottom of the barrel for bullsh!t to support our side of the arguement

jimmyendless · 03-12-2011 06:15PM

RSPCA will have to consult the cuteness index to determine the seriousness of the crime.

kylith · 03-12-2011 06:17PM

44leto wrote: »

Which is why I don't own any of them. Besides dogs, cats, birds, rabbits and fish are native here, just not exotic ones.

Dogs - Asia
Cats - Africa
Canary birds - Canary Islands
Budgie - Australia
Goldfish - China
Rabbits - Mainland Europe (brought to England by Romans, escaped from captivity)

gufnork · 03-12-2011 06:20PM

talkinyite wrote: »

gufnork wrote: »

why r some of u attempting to defend a sick bastard that gets his jollies from placing a little kitten in harms way purely for his own entertainment. Ultimately, those of u who r attempting to defend this arsehole need to take a good long look in the mirror and then when you've finished doing that, give yourselves a bloody good kick up the arse.

Because he shouldn't be tortured or jailed because some people think a pythons kill is less humane than an inhalant or injection. It wasn't "purely for his entertainment", snakes have to eat.

It ****ing was for his entertainment. That's very clear from the description. What kind of idiot r u?

Animals acting according to their nature is one thing, a total and complete arsehole using a little kitten dressed in a Santa hat while playing Christmas music....

No, I'm sorry you're such a nob but no-one is ever going to be able to justify the actions described here to me.

I only hope the more militant amongst the animal rights activists get to him before the law does.

mod: poster banned.

Dudess · 03-12-2011 06:21PM

gufnork wrote: »

What is the matter with u people? The question isn't whether it's natural for the animals to act the way they do, but rather why r some of u attempting to defend a sick bastard that gets his jollies from placing a little kitten in harms way purely for his own entertainment. Ultimately, those of u who r attempting to defend this arsehole need to take a good long look in the mirror and then when you've finished doing that, give yourselves a bloody good kick up the arse.

Wake up to yourselves(you know who u r)!

Nobody's defending him, but they are weirdly pretending that this twisted act of cruelty, complete with the cuddling beforehand and the filming, is the same as all types of animal slaughter, including that by other animals...

cassi · 03-12-2011 06:21PM

kylith wrote: »

Do you really think that snake keepers go out and catch potentially disease-ridden wild rats? Of course they don't; they can buy live or frozen feeder rats which are bred and reared the same way as the rats people have as pets. Then they're taken out of their nice cosy terrarium, gassed and frozen.

Did I say that??!! Perhaps I mislead by saying wild, if I did I apologise. I'm smart enough to know that RESPONSIBLE snake owners wouldn't do that, however the guy in the video I have serious doubts about. Also the rats that are reared for food, not the same way pet rats are rared.

He's tasteless, I won't claim otherwise, but would you be up in arms if it was a rat that he'd put on that bed? Would it be in the papers?

If he made the same video but with a rat not a cat, yes I'd be just as horrified, would it make the papers? I dunno, I have no control over it.

Do you have a cat? Does it catch mice and rats? Do you encourage it to do so? Are you happy when it does? Congratulations, you're a hell of a lot crueler than this guy; a snake will grab and squeeze, and the prey will be unconcious in a short period of time.

You wouldn't mind if I answered these questions before you jump to idiotic conclusions??!! Yes I have a cat, No it does not catch mice or rats, Its a pet cat thats fed cat food. Do I encourage it and would I be happy if it did?? I just don't even know how someone would assume this could be true!

Anyway this is not what people are horrified at. Some sicko led a pet kitten to its death and got entertainment out of it. How thats doesn't register with you is beyond me!

partyatmygaff · 03-12-2011 06:22PM

nlgbbbblth wrote: »

Disturbing stuff.

Gotta mention that the python is not exactly blameless either.

Too right.

That python should have known better than to eat food presented to it...

The python is completely blameless. He just saw prey and fed on it. Nothing inherently wrong with that. The only thing wrong with that video is the person who made it.

jimmyendless · 03-12-2011 06:25PM

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Too right.

That python should have known better than to eat food presented to it...

The python is completely blameless. He just saw prey and fed on it. Nothing inherently wrong with that. The only thing wrong with that video is the person who made it.

Its about time animals and not their owners took some responsibility for their actions. People have been the scapegoats for too long. The animals have been laughing at us.

nlgbbbblth · 03-12-2011 06:29PM

yeah - animals can basically do whatever sick stuff they want and nobody calls 'em on it. Instead it's all put down to some bullsh*t like "it's only nature" or whatever.

talkinyite · 03-12-2011 06:29PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IPjp2AkoBA

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Super-Rush · 03-12-2011 06:33PM

The guy in the video is a sick fcuker for luring the kitten to its death.

No blame lies with the snake.

Lot of people arguing for the sake of arguing in here.

BunShopVoyeur · 03-12-2011 06:34PM

talkinyite wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IPjp2AkoBA

Oh my God!!! It's barbaric, the poor defenseless snake. Wah, wah, wah......hysteria hysteria hysteria.......................

Lord Trollington · 03-12-2011 06:34PM

talkinyite wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IPjp2AkoBA

Eh a cat kills a snake? Did the cat not just go running off with the snake hanging out of it.

A question for the snake owner in the thread.

Had the kitten been a fully grown Tom can. What would have been the outcome of the Python v Cat?

Xavi6 · 03-12-2011 06:38PM

Despite all the rage it's still just a cat of young age.

:cool:

talkinyite · 03-12-2011 06:39PM

BunShopVoyeur wrote: »

Oh my God!!! It's barbaric, the poor defenseless snake. Wah, wah, wah......hysteria hysteria hysteria.......................

The owners sadistic laugh in it is so horrifying

he should be boiled alive! :rolleyes:

Dudess · 03-12-2011 06:42PM

BunShopVoyeur wrote: »

talkinyite wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IPjp2AkoBA

Oh my God!!! It's barbaric, the poor defenseless snake. Wah, wah, wah......hysteria hysteria hysteria.......................

Oh right. I didn't realise this was being compared directly to the case in the original post.
I don't see any owner luring the snake to the cat's clutches - could you perhaps point that out? Is the snake in this video an infant snake also?