Joey Bartons Twitter on Gary Speed?

Barton is talking shíte because he doesn't know what was going through Gary Speeds head. For all he knows, Speed thought it was better for his family if he was gone.

And on a side note, I followed Barton on twitter for a while because the odd journalist said he was interesting and intelligent. If cutting and pasting the odd quote makes you intelligent as a footballer these days, I fear for the ones that are actual idiots. And Barton comes across on Twitter exactly as I expected. If I was to post what he's like, I'd be banned!

tim_holsters wrote: »

If Barton says he's in no position to speak, why did he speak? More guff to be ignored I suppose.

You ignored the context in which he said that

Just didn't seem at all fitting with his character but again, I am in no position to speak. I feel terrible for his kids, family and friends

His point obviously relates to him having carried out a few acts that he doesn't perceive to be at all fitting with his character

coup1917 wrote: »

He's an idiot..
And by describing suicide as a selfish act goes to show he has no understanding of depression or how someone in that position must be feeling..

He should be banned from commenting as he has little incite to offer on anything. .

Many people associate suicide with selfishness, I used to and I can certainly see a valid connection. However, I've learned from others that this is not in fact the case, and my opinion has changed since. Its only from chatting to a friend who lost a family member to suicide that changed my mind on it.

If Joey Barton has never previously been affected by it, its fair to see how he could hold this view. Even if he has, and he believes it to be in part a selfish act, many may consider him wrong, but again he's entitled to his view on it. I do believe though that airing such views publicly is asking for bother

In fairness Barton is right. Not to get into it but to describe it as selfish is controversial in many ways but also completely correct. Don't want to get into the bones of it but this is a storm in a tea cup.

I actually think Barton is spot on with what he says, my family and I have suffered with a family member committing suicide, without a note, there are so many questions going through your head that you do think it is selfish.

The vast majority of people who commit suicide are suffering from depression. I'm not claiming to know much about the condition, but having previously believed it to be a selfish act, a friend of mine who lost a family member convinced me otherwise

In such a state, I don't think selfishness comes into it, I think its more a case that they simply can't see another way out of the hole they're in. Many, many decent people have taken their own lives, and I can't for a second begin to contemplate the anguish they must have been suffering to take such a decision

To say it was a selfish act implies it was a rational decision. My own opinion is that in the state people are in to do something like this, they're incapable of making rational decisions, and so while the act can I think be perceived as selfish, the motives aren't

flahavaj wrote: »

Someone who's suicidal genuinely believes their family and friends would be better off without them. Its unfair to say they're being selfish as their ability to analyse the situation in such a rational way has evaporated.

Its only fiction obviously, but the book/play Death of a Salesman by Arthur Miller convey's the above point very effectively