Weed grown in Ireland is more potent than weed in Amsterdam!

battser · 30-11-2011 01:32AM

I personally only ever listen to this guy on such matters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70jXA7BKe-Y

I seriously need to figure out how to embed!

Napper Hawkins · 30-11-2011 01:56AM

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

well thats one way of looking at it...

Im not sure i like the sound of having a stoner country to live in or well watching zombies wondering around

I'll take stoned, docile zombies wandering about over violent, obnoxious drunks any day of the week, thanks.

saywhatyousee · 30-11-2011 02:06AM

saa wrote: »

I would like to smoke again but not over time as schizophrenia is in the family a little too close for comfort to chance it.

If your worried about the supposed mental health issues stick to indica based strains.The link in the OP was so absurd i was not even going to reply to this thread and by the way cannabis with a 16% thc is middle of the road stuff.

Mercurius · 30-11-2011 09:57AM

saywhatyousee wrote: »

If your worried about the supposed mental health issues stick to indica based strains.The link in the OP was so absurd i was not even going to reply to this thread and by the way cannabis with a 16% thc is middle of the road stuff.

The claims of 20% and upwards THC content are usually made by seed companies.

ScumLord · 30-11-2011 12:09PM

whitesands wrote: »

As would the pharmaceutical industry, there is no money to be made from cannabis as a cure to anything, pfizer etc or your doctor wouldn't profit because you'd grow it yourself.

No you wouldn't, just because it's possible to grow it yourself doesn't mean you'll put the time and resources into doing it. Do you grow your own bananas or oranges?

saywhatyousee wrote: »

If your worried about the supposed mental health issues stick to indica based strains.

There is a very real danger of accelerating the early onset of schizophrenia. Young teens (<16) are at risk and the risk subsides as they get older.

This is another side effect of governments terrible information. Young people are at risk if they abuse cannabis, adults are not.

mikom · 30-11-2011 12:14PM

ScumLord wrote: »

No you wouldn't, just because it's possible to grow it yourself doesn't mean you'll put the time and resources into doing it. Do you grow your own bananas or oranges?

I wouldn't even go as far as bananas or oranges.
Lettuce would be more appropriate.
People still buy it even though you could grow it on top of your head.

znv6i3h7kqf9ys · 30-11-2011 12:21PM

What a silly story. Weed is stronger than Hash. Newsflash... Nearly all weed is home grown especially the imported stuff. And when I say home grown I don't mean in Ireland I mean in a controlled environment. It's not picked wild.

eire.man · 30-11-2011 02:57PM

such bu11 !! thc and cbd's are bad!! personally I prefer a healthy 70/30 mix of both and the medical world has approved cannabis with the same and RTE ARE TALKING RIGHT OUT OF THEIR ANUS HERE!!

Wertz · 30-11-2011 03:01PM

To be fair it's not RTÉ, it's the NACD worrying about feckin' weed, sorry, "Weed"TM when heroin and cyrstal meth use is rising year on year.

ScumLord · 30-11-2011 03:14PM

Wertz wrote: »

To be fair it's not RTÉ, it's the NACD worrying about feckin' weed, sorry, "Weed"TM when heroin and cyrstal meth use is rising year on year.

RTE have to take some blame for regurgitating nonsense. I think RTE is horribly biased and moralistic and if they didn't set out to make this story sound as bad as possible they at the very least put as little thought into it as possible. I wouldn't trust RTE news to tell me the time of day.

joseph brand · 30-11-2011 03:26PM

Originally Posted by TeddyTedson
Another reason to leagalise it (the lower strain) if you ask me.
Many fit and healthy people are pro cannabis users and are very successful. Joe Rogan being one.

Snakeblood wrote: »

Pick a better example, that guy is a douchebag.

Blasphemy. Listening to Joe's podcast now with Joey Diaz and it's very funny and interesting. How about YOU pick a better example?

joseph brand · 30-11-2011 03:31PM

whitesands wrote: »

As would the pharmaceutical industry, there is no money to be made from cannabis as a cure to anything, pfizer etc or your doctor wouldn't profit because you'd grow it yourself.

End of story, no patent, no investing in research & continued prohibition :mad:

I just heard on the Joe Rogan experience that in America the ATF wanna take away gun licences from people who have medicinal marijuana. What has weed got to do with guns? Surely drink and guns are more dangerous. Looking after the pharma corps as per usual. :mad:

Ray Palmer · 30-11-2011 03:32PM

Just to point out the title is wrong. Irish grown stuff is stronger than that imported . We don't import our stuff from Amsterdam. So the stuff in Amsterdam is stronger and the report doesn't make the claim anyway.

On mental health issues doubling your chances of one mental illness sounds terrible but when doubling means going from 1% to 2% you suddenly see the way a risk is stated is important.

The war on drugs is lost the terms of the surrender should have started by now

Wertz · 30-11-2011 03:33PM

ScumLord wrote: »

RTE have to take some blame for regurgitating nonsense. I think RTE is horribly biased and moralistic and if they didn't set out to make this story sound as bad as possible they at the very least put as little thought into it as possible. I wouldn't trust RTE news to tell me the time of day.

I agree, but they're only the messenger... if the NACD decide to make a big splash with their findings then the media will run with it and spice it up and twist it to their own agenda, something that RTÉ are guilty of...
It's fairly bloody obvious why weed grown here is or can be stronger than imported stuff, but you won;t gte that objective view from either the media or the NACD ,who should be the ones drawing the logical conclussion as to why rather than a shock-horror stance. I heard one of their doctors on the local radio this morning and between him and the poorly informed host, it was almost comedic...the people out there who don;t know take this stuff as gospel.

D.L.R. · 30-11-2011 03:48PM

Listening to the Irish establishment is even more likely to lead to psychosis.

Yakult · 30-11-2011 03:54PM

Got a good laugh when they said that they are gonna try and manage the THC levels in homegrown cannabis in Ireland.

They really are clueless bastards haha
and this is why we will never get this drug legalised anytime soon, because of people misinforming the public and telling lies about the dangers. Get the facts right at least.

Wertz · 30-11-2011 03:58PM

That doctor this morning tried an analogy with the host...he said the skunk is like vodka and the hash is like shandy.. he also said that smoking hash wasn't as damaging...for jesus sake the sh*te (literally) they put in some resin is going to kill you long before you might wind up in a padded room.

How the hell do you "manage THC levels"... FFS we can't manage our way out of a plastic bag in this country

Temptamperu · 30-11-2011 04:01PM

I have lived in Amsterdam and can say no Irish weed is not stronger... If it is grown with love and care its about the same but generally its grown by gob****es who dont even let it dry out.

Wertz · 30-11-2011 04:04PM

Sure why would you let it cure, when you can bag it up and get €€€ for the extra weight.

whitesands · 30-11-2011 09:43PM

ScumLord wrote: »

No you wouldn't, just because it's possible to grow it yourself doesn't mean you'll put the time and resources into doing it. Do you grow your own bananas or oranges?

Don't be silly, you need trees for bananas & oranges, it's not practical. Weed grows like a weed, you get a HPS & you have a years supply of medicine in 12-14 weeks with very little work. pfizer & co's profits would plunge due to people figuring out half the **** they sell is doing more harm than good.

You don't even need a HPS, there is plenty of strains that do well in our climate outdoors. Plant the thing & water it a few times of week, it's actually harder growing tomatoes

Look up some of the Rick Simpson videos if you haven't seen them. It's big business in california.

joseph brand wrote: »

I just heard on the Joe Rogan experience that in America the ATF wanna take away gun licences from people who have medicinal marijuana. What has weed got to do with guns? Surely drink and guns are more dangerous. Looking after the pharma corps as per usual.

Exactly, it makes no sense, someone medicating themselves with marijuana are the last people to go on a gun rampage.

SoWatchaWant · 01-12-2011 03:54PM

I'm curious to know how much people are paying for weed at present, particularly in Dublin. Since the start of the summer the price seems to have jacked up. A 50 bag is about 2 grams now. The quality is very good though.

Out of interest, can anybody confirm that the price has risen since the headshop products were banned?

RichieC · 01-12-2011 04:13PM

I heard you can actually stress the plant out in it's flowering period to up the THC content but at the cost of yield, flavour and bud quality.

in other words, make a bags of the grow lol..

stimpson · 01-12-2011 04:17PM

SoWatchaWant wrote: »

Out of interest, can anybody confirm that the price has risen since the headshop products were banned?

No mention of it in the CPI

AeoNGriM · 01-12-2011 04:45PM

El Pistolero wrote: »

Anyone want a game of Golden Axe?

Bagsy the Dwarf, you can be the hot bitch

mikom · 13-12-2011 04:04PM

Meanwhile in civilisation.....

Cannabis Legal and Regulated in Spain for 2012

Following news that Switzerland will permit its residents to grow 4 cannabis plants for personal consumption from January 1st 2012, The Basque Parliamant in Spain has followed suit. A new law bill will officially regulate the cultivation, sale and consumption of cannabis in the Basque region from 2012.

The Basque Region of Spain will regulate cannabis markets in 2012
Furthermore the Basque regions natonal health authority has denounced cannabis prohibition.

The leading health official in the region is Rafael Bengoa, who said ""We do not want to be prohibitionists".
"The consumption and possession of cannabis are regulated by the penal code and by the law on citizen security."

"For the new ruling, for which technical and legal studies have been undertaken, the regional government wants to open a debate with associations in favour of consumption and to shape their rights".

Jesus Maria Fernandez also works for the Basque Health Authority.
Mr Fernandez told reporters "It is better to regulate than to ban."

"The consumption of cannabis is a practice that is already consolidated," he concluded.

The Basque actions on cannabis are sure to fly in the face of America's 'absolutely no cannabis is good cannabis' policy and once upon a time would have lead to sanctions being placed upon Spain.

Today however cannabis is so much a part of European life no one takes much notice of how it stands legally anymore.

But for the Basque region of Spain and its many cannabis social clubs its hoped this law change will put an end to the practice of kicking down the front doors of otherwise perfectly law-abiding citizens simply because they prefer cannabis over alcohol.

http://pr.cannazine.co.uk/201112131543/green/eco-news/cannabis-legal-and-regulated-in-spain.html

Spain joins Switzerland and Belgium.

Wertz · 13-12-2011 04:10PM

Get the basques stoned... maybe they might quit with all that pesky blowing things up and we might get some taxes off them in to the bargain.

That's been kept fairly quiet, especially the swiss move. Stable currency, good skiing and homegrown pot...oh and chocolate. Where do I sign up?

ScumLord · 13-12-2011 04:13PM

Didn't know the Basque was so pro weed, shall have to make a trip there next year.

mikom · 13-12-2011 04:17PM

Wertz wrote: »

That's been kept fairly quiet, especially the swiss move. Stable currency, good skiing and homegrown pot...oh and chocolate. Where do I sign up?

Awaits the usual bollox of "they will all be overrun with drug tourists"

It'll be legal in so many places soon that there won't be much travelling to be done.

Wertz · 13-12-2011 04:29PM

Sure heroin has been effectively decriminalised in some of their (Swiss) largest cities for well over a decade now. In many cases it is in fact prescribed to registered addicts...they did have problems with a previous attempt to corral addicts, leading to junkie tourists from across europe invading a park in Zurich.
However for pot? The choices are opening up year on year, Holland, Portugal, Denmark, Czech Rep... now parts of Spain? I can only see that list growing...

pretty-in-pink · 13-12-2011 04:29PM

i have in on excellent autority that its feels far stronger here, as the thc has nothing to counter act it. So maybe its not technically stronger, but has a greater effect?

either way, legalise it and be done with it. its a slap on the wrist offence anyway not something i've seen anyone getting into real trouble for. if its legalised, it can be regulated- and happy days for the government- taxed.

Weed grown in Ireland is more potent than weed in Amsterdam!

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